should not just rest at the police department, so i would encourage you and the mayor's office to work together on the -- on that. one quick question about crime, and i do not want to be labor this. mont mu -- on muni, do we have any statistics with crime? >> i did not bring it with me today, yes. >> we need to talk -- we cannot talk about what is happening with public safety around the city if we do not talk about what is happening with respect to public transportation. that is something of concern for me. in my district, we have the 14 line, one of the second most transit lines. incidents happen from time to time, so i would like to get a better sense of what is happening, what does the picture look like in terms of safety

muni -- safety on muni buses and trains and if we could incorporate that as part of our presentation. >> i can tell you that even one crime on muni is too much. but i work with the deputy chief, who is in charge, and he has a great squad of officers, and they have been doing a fantastic job, and i know these numbers are going down, compared to last year and over the months, and i have known tom, too, and i think you would be happy to see him. supervisor mirkarimi: ok. you want to talk about the chief selection process? i'm just kidding. [laughter] >> i did not apply. i did not apply. supervisor mirkarimi: and if you

did, he should have been interviewed. that is all i'm going to say on the matter. listen, thank you. unless my colleagues have more comments. i do want to say how much i do appreciate everything that you are trying to do, i think, to help modernize the approach and get a handle around the activity that is occurring. i realize a lot of what we are asking is not solely on the shoulders of the police department, but until there is some traffic cop, for lack of a better phrase, to unite all the statistical -- disparate statistical variables of the criminal justice system, it is difficult for us to get a complete picture, so i appreciate you helping us endeavor to that point as much as the conversation has, i think, evolves. thank you. >> i appreciate that. when i put this working group together, i will be including nlcj in networking group, so you

will be hearing from me. >> good morning. i'm from the mayor's office. i'm here mostly to listen because, as you are aware, we have someone starting with us next week, and he will be in this chair moving forward, so he can speak with some knowledge, which i do not have on the issues, but i do appreciate your focusing on solving these issues, and i will commit mr. henderson, since he is not here, to argue otherwise to working collaborative we on this issue. supervisor mirkarimi: the good news is he is really no stranger to any of this. he has been before public safety and the board of supervisors many times, so this conversation is not unfamiliar to mr. henderson at all. being a longtime member of the district attorney's office, someone i used to work with for a number of years, staff i think

is a language he gets, so i think that would be a good language for us. >> he is focused on solving these issues by data and not as much by feel, so i think there is consensus around that. supervisor mirkarimi: just a message to glean from what supervisors have been talking about and i have been drumbeating for a while, too, and that is it somehow through either the department of technology or the coit working group, what have you, is able to help us figure out a way that does unite that strategy on statistics from the disparate criminal justice departments, that would be wonderful. because we came in at the police department. none of us expect them to be able to answer all the questions, so it is helpful again to have that kind of

administrator or organizer, somebody that can referee all the different agencies together. >> i think, as supervisor campos mentioned, you cannot just look at one type of data. on tuesday, the full board voted on first reading on the justice reorganization, and the justice system will now exist under the city administrator, and i believe that they begin to address the concerns you are expressing. i hope it will, at least. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you very much. very much appreciate the mayor's office of criminal justice being part of this. very good. we can open this up to public comment. >> hello, ladies and gentlemen. i'm christine harris. thank you for letting me speak. i'm a victim of electromagnetic

weapons, organize stocking -- stalking. wiretaps are in my phone, and a gps device has been inserted in my vehicle. the perpetrators are sgt beasley from the san francisco police department, his wife, debra davis, and peter davis. in my many attempts to seek protection from the san francisco police department, and public authorities in san francisco, i have not only been denied but threatened for speaking about the crimes against me. officer kelly dunne even showed up at my husband's place of work to say that the crimes against me have been investigated and the case closed. i'm requesting a real, genuine investigation with integrity that does not come for the criminal and crucify the victim. i wanted to let you know that a group of victims just testified at the bioethics meeting in

washington, d.c., this past week. thank you so much. supervisor mirkarimi: i'm sorry. a question wanted to be asked by supervisor cohen. supervisor cohen: i did not catch your name. >> christine harris. supervisor cohen: just wanted to make sure i understood what you just said. you are a victim of cyber- stocking -- cyberstalking? >> it is called organized stalking. it is an act that a group of people did back in the 1950's, 1960's, and 1970's. it was very familiar with the kkk to stalk the black panthers to intimidate and threaten them. they would discredit the victim so that they could continue their crimes. supervisor cohen: so you came to bring your case to our

attention? >> i have been speaking at police commissioner meetings, and i have been to three of these public safety meetings to bring to the attention of the board of supervisors to bring awareness as the media is not paying particular attention to these crimes. supervisor cohen: tell me, how did you become a victim? >> very interesting. i had a disagreement with our property manager. that was sort of how it started. the president of the homeowner association was not complying with the law. as opposed to hiring an attorney, which i had done and spent $500, i decided to go to the attorney general, which there is a list of four things with their is no fee, so i contacted the attorney general, and from there on, a list of

crimes started. supervisor cohen: so how long has this been going on? >> basically since june 2008. supervisor mirkarimi: you know, a supervisor cohen, i think the issue sounds extremely complex and sensitive, especially since i'm hearing specific individuals being called out. due to the nature of the sensitivity, i think this might be a conversation best suited offline. supervisor cohen: agreed. >> i will be leaving you some information at your offices individually. the reason why perpetrators names have been listed is they need to be exposed. it would not have gotten this far had the san francisco police department or any public official taken notice of the crime, so please forgive me. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you.

next speaker please. >> good morning, supervisors. i have lived in san francisco for 59 years. i am actually stunned by the first speaker. what she is saying is not here said -- he -- harsaa -- hearsay, and i will talk to her privately about that. my own comments about san francisco, i have a couple of suggestions to improve police presence. my first suggestion is to have the top brass of the police department actually spend some time on the street. in my opinion, one way to shoot down the drug quarter for activity is to park a police car at that corner and send a message that business is over at

that corner. i think the street cops would really appreciate it when they see the top brass on the street, even though it is only for a limited time. let's put it this way -- you might get lucky and actually prevent a crime when the top brass is on the street. secondly, i think that a crime situation would be helped if we could get some help from ex- chief heather fong. i'm surprised she has not had any presence since her retirement, and i think that helps the criminal because we are not using her vast experience and knowledge that she acquired. second, i would like to thank the sfpd juvenile unit for conducting investigation into pornography allegations on san

francisco general hospital. i think that pornography is banned under reported crime in san francisco, and i have a feeling that it is abuse other illegal activities. my final comment is the open court examiner" has an article on today's crops. -- the "examiner" has an article on today's cops. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. thank you, captain, for the updated information, and we look forward to seeing you again soon. want to remind the audience that next week, there will be a special meeting on the ninth regarding community policing and legislation being advanced to discuss what the legislative definition of community policing may be. we expect a good community interface in that meeting as

well. madam clerk, do we have any other business? >> no, mr. chairman. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you very much. this meeting is adjourned.

>> thanks for coming today. we are announcing are temporary homeowner's property tax reduction program. this is what most assessor's up and down the state are doing. homeowners are reliable -- of all property owners are eligible for a temporary, 1-year property-tax assessment reduction if they believe or if we believe dave -- the assess the value has fallen above their market value, which means that the value would be lower than the market value. in general, homeowners who are eligible, chances are, they

purchased homes after 2003. we do get applicants who have owned homes since 1995 or earlier. in general, anybody who is owned their home prior to 2003, they are doing well, which is good news. chances are the market value is higher than the assessed value, meaning the property appreciate it. people we are able to offer little relief for, the sad news is, their homes have depreciated. there will be a little bit of relief for them. in general, last year, we saw 6400 applicants in comparison to four years ago when we had 248 requests. the form a simple. it is one page. name, telephone number, e-mail, and the address you are applying for. if you can give us sales in formation of similar types of

homes, we do hope you can give us that. if you cannot come maternity leave blank and sign it. e-mail or fax it to us -- if you cannot give us that, leave it blank and sign it. e-mail or fax it was. tenderloin downtown, south of market, mission bay, and south beach. those were many of the new high- rise condominiums that went in to market the last four or five years. we have seen a significant amount of depreciation in those areas. gaviria that has seen the largest value drop is -- the other area that has seen the largest volume drop is the outer mission, amazon, those areas have seen the largest percentage drop. it is where we have been hit hardest with foreclosures. we make sure that we take an extra look. we proactively have been reviewing every home that was

purchased after 2000. even though we think eligibility is for people up to 2003, we review any homeowner who purchased after 2000. that was roughly about 15,000 homeowners. of that, reduced -- no one had to apply or call us. we did this on our own. we reduced 10,000 of those homeowners. roughly, you have 10,000 reductions that we did on our own. 1700 reductions were done through this application process. 5000 time shares is how you get to the 17,000 number. just to give you a comparison, it is quite a bit in san francisco. these are huge numbers, larger than the dot com bust. alameda and santa clara did about 1000 come a tenfold.

-- 1000, tenfold. we are doing better than our counterparts in other parts of the bay area. i feel fortunate. the tax reduction was about 21 million in taxes that were not collected. 21 million in taxes were not collected. that is a significant number. it is out of a $6.5 billion budget. overall, the difference to the city is still rather small compared to what it meant to many of the other counties in other areas. let me stop there and take questions. >> [inaudible] >> 6462. of those, we actually reviewed only 4177. many of those were already reviewed. we have actively reviewed them. some of them were not eligible.

>> [inaudible] >> anybody who has gotten a reduction, they don't need to apply. we will look at it again. if you have gotten a reduction through an appeal or through our office, they don't need to apply again. they will be reviewed. they may want to apply because maybe they want to give us information we don't know. they are free to do that. that will be reviewed as part of that process. in general, they don't need to submit paperwork if they already got a reduction last year. >> [inaudible] >> well, i think because it is

just flat, the market has not rebounded and gone up. we will probably see the same number of people deserve reductions last year. i think it will be comparable. traditionally, an economic recovery is like a v. this is more like a u. we're at the bottom of it right now. my feeling is we are going to see, you know, a very unusual real-estate market in san francisco. it will be flat and not appreciate a whole lot right now. the number people who are eligible is probably similar to last year. i bet we will give about the same number of reductions this year as we did last year. it will not be that much different. >> [inaudible] >> anybody that was reviewed -- everybody in san francisco got a letter from us in july. they were told what their assessed value was. there were told that they got a reduction. if they got a reduction based on

the letter, they don't need to reapply. what people do is we will review applicants. the deadline is march 31. all 17,000 who got reductions will be reviewed automatically. everyone will get notified again in july. we will not talk to anybody prior to that. everyone else will be getting the standard notification in july. >> [inaudible] you review these every year. >> every year. the reductions we review every year. as the market appreciates, we may take their assessments up based on what the market value is. they may go all the way back up to the factor value. it may go up partially higher. obviously, that is what he would see. you would see a step over the years to include the appreciation based on what the market is feeling. right now, we are not seeing a

whole lot of appreciation. chances are, the assessment will be a little bit different than last year. the original purchase applies plus whatever the inflation factor was on an annual basis. in general, up to 2%. we had a negative inflation factor for the first time last year. everybody got a reduction last year. >> [inaudible] >> this year, cpi based on the final number we saw, is. 5% positive. it is still well below 2%. -- is .5% positive. it is still well below 2%. the economy is still rather flat. >> [inaudible] >> everybody who does not get a reduction will get a .5%

increase in their assessment. that is just a proximate. it will probably be pretty close to that. we can show you the website. we follow the same website. it is the state cpi. it is a tracking mechanism for the state. >> [inaudible] >> i think there will vote to finalize in the next month or two. i think the number is done. >> overall, when all is said and done, what is the amount that you're going to receive [inaudible] >> for reductions, it will really just depend on how much your property might have depreciated or appreciate id. some areas where maybe there was

a 5% or 3%, the good news in san francisco, we have not seen a few drops we saw in other parts of the bay area, like solano, or properties dropped 50%. you don't want that. you want your property to appreciate. that is the goal. it might be $50, $100, maybe a few hundred dollars. it and will not be anything huge -- it will not be anything huge. >> [inaudible] >> over last year, it was a $21 million difference. because of the temporary reductions in homeowners values, there was $21 million that was not collected by the county. let's put that in context of the $6.5 billion budget. >> [inaudible] >> the total property tax collected is about $2 billion. overall, we are doing quite well. >> [inaudible]

>> overall, property-tax as have done extremely well the last five, 10 years. we have seen huge increases overall. >> [inaudible] >> no idea. if i did, i should be in las vegas placing a bet, or should be in new york making more money than i am here. the controller's office is probably tracking it more than us. we don't know. we have seen -- we have seen several governments pumped $1 trillion into the economy. it is a huge amount of money. we have seen some improvements, but not the ones they were hoping for. great. ok. thanks, everybody.