that out? there is literally nothing binding within the city government, police commission, or dgos that say that new police officers that come on have to follow anything. the mayor -- there could be one mayor who is really into -- your boss is not the board. your boss is the police commission and the chief executive. if the mayor says with executive authority, the constructed completely. they should have that flexibility. but the question is it has always leaned in that direction. when is it going to lean in the direction of being a main emphasis on community policing? i think that is where we really get down to the bottom. chief godown: i think the definition of community policing is going to be to find what the definition is of the people behind me. my concern is that you are backing me into a corner to

legislate what community policing should or should not be. as an interim chief of police, i should have some flexibility as to how to deploy more resources. i think the captain gave a phenomenal power point presentation. i can tell you one thing i do agree with. there is not enough focus. i see officers on foot confecting the public. that is more of an impression and to see them in the police car. unfortunately, that is not the main means of community policing. i think this department as a phenomenal job in that fashion. but i think we could be here until 12:00 and still not have a definition for community policing. i would love to have more foot beats. i can tell you that as the budget nears and we start talking about the budget, as the budget constraints get tighter and tighter and we have less personnel, those foot beats will

be affected by that and i do not want that to happen. i have commander david lazar. he can talk to you after the public comment on what happened with the perf study. in reference to the community concerns, i agree with ample -- with them. if i had the captain of was comfortable with, i would want the captain to be in that district for a long time. unfortunately, with stepping and promotion issues, sometimes captains are moved. in a perfect world, all those captain should be trained the same. conflict -- community policing should be done in the same fashion. treading captains -- it should be a constant flow for them. the should not be a lack of service when it comes to community policing. that is on me. the captain's need to be trained. we need to make sure we have

community policing across the board in districts that are consistent. as long as i stand up here and where this little star, my office door is open to anybody in this room to make an appointment to talk to me. i have been very proactive about going out to the community and being in places where a lot of people said, "you could send an assistant chief or a captain." i did not have to attend this meeting today. i came because i do care. i care about community policing. i am very excited to listen to the feedback from the community about their vision of community policing. it cannot be just an officer walking down the street waving their hand and saying, " hi, john." i have to balance the needs of my officers, the colorado load, and the crime issues we have in this city. with that, i will hand it over

to the community. supervisor campos: i think supervisor cohen may have a question. supervisor cohen: i do not have so much of a question, but more of a statement to the members of the public that are here today. it speaks to specifically what supervisor mirkarimi was talking about in the lack of continuity in the definition and implementation of community policing. we have a packed chamber. i want to encourage everyone who lives in the city and county of san francisco to exercise their vote when november comes, when it comes time to collect our next supervisor. this is a friendly public service announcement to remember that showing up to meetings is only half of the democratic process. the community policing is each and everyone of us in this chamber.

it is the young woman who came up into the podium and the students who came up to the podium. all of us are partners in the definition. with the other supervisors, we are trying to create a legal definition of community policing to help identify and codify community policing. everybody does have a working knowledge definition of what community policing is. we should start to look at ourselves as partners in community policing. when i am riding the bus and people do not know i represent district 10, when i am on the line and i see the young kids acting up or littering or throwing trash on the ground, community policing is stepping in and saying, "listen, brothers. this is our community." thank you. i appreciate that. it is not solely on the san

francisco police department to send police. we have a lot of elders in the chamber with us today. it is important to empower them and recognize their leadership and time they have spent to mentor, and their role in community policing. those are my brief comments. thank you. supervisor campos: i want to recognize the executive director of the department of children, youth, and their families, as well as a member of her office. it is important that dcyf is here, because they provide oversight and management of a lot of violence prevention programs in the city. thank you for coming to listen to what the public has to say. let me call on the speakers. if you can please line up, you each have two minutes.

i apologize if i mispronounced your name. susan nelson, kevin carroll, walter paulson. >> good evening to everyone. it is a pleasure for me to be here today. the reason i am here -- i am supporting the police and community policing. i have always supported for many years. i went to the police commission meeting. i must first identify myself, where i live, and what i do. i have lived in the mission district for over 50 years. i live on brian and 24th. i work on treat and harrison and i run an after-school program. i want to think -- thank dcyf for all the support they give us. i look forward to see the days

that we do not have to be always afraid when we walk the street. i would like to see the children i have worked with and the rest of the neighbors be very happy, feel successful and probably live in our neighborhood. i think that with the beat officers, i think that makes a great success. it makes the children see the police not as enemies. i think it is really wrong when we see them as enemies. i see them as a team that we can work with. before that happens, we have to work with them. we need to know the officers in our neighborhood. we need to start having activities. let me start talking about the mission, because i live in the mission. the community need to get together. we say we want to get involved.

we want to work with the police. the police want to work with us. unless we all get together, we will always stay apart. i know all of you know what is happening now in the mission. i should not be out tonight. maybe when i get ready to go home, something may happen. but i happen to be one of the persons who feels that. thank you very much. supervisor campos: next speaker, please. ian mcgee, david dell. >> my name is marie sorenson. i am a member of the 24th street organization. before we had beat cops, we did not have a lot of officers down in our part of the mission. i live close to general hospital. and the police captain would say, "you know, they start coming down and then something happens and then they stop

because there is a problem, and then they have to go make an arrest and have to go back to the station." they fill out the paperwork and come back and go a little further. they still do not make it down to 24th and petrero. the other thing about mission station is we share it with noe valley and the castro. where would you rather go? when we started having beat officers, what started happening was the street became a little nicer. people met the beat officers. it started to change the local 24th street on just walking down the street. i think probably 62.

i actively encourage to keep the beat officers, because they really make a big difference. the make a big difference on lower 24 street. i just encourage you to keep them there. we at least have some cops. >> my name is kevin carroll. i am the executive director of the fisherman's wharf community benefits district. i am here to represent the central station community advisory board. that has helped our district and our neighborhood. we have been talking about the community, not just what affect their individual area. when we work on fisherman's

wharf, it is important what is happening in the surrounding neighborhood. my colleagues from chinatown and north beach -- i would like to talk about our shared issues with the captain, but also find solutions amongst ourselves that suggest to the captain what we are working on. since i have been a member of that organization, and has been helpful to me, because it is important to know what is going on in the areas around our district. we talked about changing captains. that is a reality. it has helped us to have the citizen's advisory board. we have had three captains in two years. it has been a way for us as a group to help orient those new captains and work with them on what has been happening in our district, sharing our institutional knowledge of what has been happening. that has been a very good thing for us to be able to work with them as part of it.

i am going to share a brief examples of the programs we have worked on as a community. the first one is related to youth. we had a lot of youth talking about getting to know the police officers. one of the members set our schools do not feel comfortable with the police. they have started a program that started a few months ago. the police officers went into the school and invited the students into central station. since then, the students have learned more about the station. >> i am and she -- angie menkin. i am a relatively new member of the ingleside cpad, and i

appreciate the opportunity to speak with you tonight. we really do need a common definition of community policing. i have kind of struggled with that. as a new member, i have been doing some research in trying to figure out what is my role here. there are some training materials. i think there could be more. as we know, it comes from the top. having a vision statement for the police department, for each captain, that really crystallizes what community policing is, at least in san francisco or right now, i think it is a really good thing. i understand that implementation will be and should be station by station, really, and the captains and the chief need some

flexibility to implement community policing. but i think the community needs to understand what is and how to define it. there really should not be 100 definition's if there are 100 people in the room. in my view, we need to encourage the real partnership between the police department and the community. youth is a huge part of it. i live in the excelsior district. we want to encourage are used to be empowered, to be safe, to be active, and have options. that is why i am participating. we have had a couple of youth forums. i think we need to do more. >> my name is marlon drump --

crump. i am with port news network. i am also with the legal advocacy network. this is related to the experts say -- expose about cops going into people's hotel rooms. some of you already know how i feel about the issue. i was under the impression that would stop after the presentation with captain correa. i give him a manual of proposed policy beforehand. i spoke with you, that david campos. do you know what happened afterward? some of those recruits came to my presentation. but when i see this happening most recently, that tells me a lot. i really felt i was pacified a

lot on the issue. all i can tell you here and now is this. if those officers are not swiftly dealt with which the to the part -- to the termination, i will sue the city for misleading the public and pacifying me. i really did not appreciate that at all. i worked extremely hard around that issue. i spent my own time and energy going to all those police commission meetings, sitting in the front row over and over, only to see that happen again. >> good evening, supervisors. my name is susan nelson, and i am from the southern station cpab. i want to make a statement about the group that southern station and how energetic and cohesive a

group we have. we have had three captains at southern station since our group formed. i feel that our focus has moved flawlessly through these changes. it is due in much part to the open mindedness of our captains and their support, and also with the help of sf safe. last year, we addressed problems in the soma area having to do with nightclubs and car break-in areas. we developed a campaign to reach out to the community, which we are following up on by expanding that to a neighborhood group. i just wanted to comment about what a positive group we have, and how we are very, very honored to be working with our current captain. supervisor campos: thank you.

ken craig, katie lidell, barbara kyle. >> my name is debbie cornelius. i am a member of the anderson street say the alliance. i am here to complement the ingleside station and thank you for your support of our community policing efforts. there was a liquor store at 511 crescent street. that was a huge crime problem in our neighborhood. and through our work with the now five captains that have been through their since our group formed, we are very encouraged that we were able to work with

the police, work with the abc, and work with lots of different neighborhood groups, including the bernal heights neighborhood center, to shut the place down and get the license revoked. we were encouraged. we want to continue the dialogue with the station and with the captain. we are very happy about this partnership. we want to keep it going. there are example of community policing. we are encouraged and we want to keep them going. >> thank you for being here. i want to thank the police department for being here. i think it is great that are out here. i am with the lower 24 street merchant association. i was on the advisory board in 2006 under heather fong. we spent a year talking about

community policing and what it is in creating the definition. some of the things that came up tonight we did discuss and some of the things are not on there. what is important is implementation. a lot of things we talked about over the years i have not been addressed. what happened to us -- we were kind of lucky because we did have a beat officer for seven years, which created a lot of trust. we had a very good experience with the officers. it is more than just a beat officer. it is not just one thing. there are a lot of different pieces that have come together to create the community things. the most important thing is communication. i think seeing our beat officer and the communication he had with everyone created that

trust, which led to collaboration. i think the cab is very important. i think we need to empower it. i also think we need the legislation to be able to continue community policing to make it work in the long term. >> my name is david delp. i am co-chair of the advisory board at the mission police station. they have asked me to be their voice tonight. in the past, i have interviewed other cabinet members, the former chief of police, and it is clear the desire to build trust between communities by community policing is a big wish. it is begging for a solid plan, a clear definition and your advocacy.

a theory -- i see the efforts everybody is putting forward, and it is awesome. our cab is an extraordinary, diverse group of people dedicated to bringing peace to our neighborhood. yet as a group we lack of guidance, funding, and the authority to make decisions. we met only 11 hours over the course of the year. this year, we are starting to make a few rules and set a few small goals. the chance to affect a change in the community is very small. at least that is my belief. i am here today to urge you to help change that situation. the good news is you can. there is some low-hanging fruit, i think. the legislation that is in front of the board of supervisors that is being proposed is a great start at defining what community

policing is. i urge you to extend it to your jurisdictions and take it seriously. you are going to put forward a recommendation for the chief and someone focused on community policing is important. we need that leadership. the people of san francisco need that from you. this is a call to give authority to cabs. we need this help. we all share this goal. >> my name is an macgee and i am on the advisory board for the richmond district. we are lucky to work with the captain and the officers in the richmond district. in the last year, we have had some deaths of people on bicycles. we have had deaths of

pedestrians in our district. our cab has worked hard to create pedestrians and traffic safety materials along with safe, to reach out to the community, especially our schools, our children, our elderly, and the different community resources in our district to help educate more people on safety. captain korea and all the staff has been very supportive of us in doing that. we also had an armed robbery of a medicinal marijuana clinic. it was only two blocks from my house. this was kind of a topic that we discussed in our advisory board. we had the owner of the clinic come. we got his point of view. we learned a lot about the business. he learned a lot about the resources that are available for additional security. he took a lot of our suggestions

under advisement. i think these are examples of how our organization has been able to solve some of our challenges. i think it would be a wonderful thing for community policing to continue. our advisory board has seen direct impact, using these methods. i would encourage all the supervisors to continue to encourage community policing. thank you very much. supervisor campos: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is billy harrison. i have been listening and i really liked the concept of community policing, because in the world community is unity. today, my family and i cannot experience that unity, because my brother, charles harrison,

was murdered in the tenderloin district on january 2 of this year. i know that we can come up with all type of tactics to move on communities. we can come up with gang injunctions. the marjah district person said that him and his people feel safe. some of the people say they do not think it should be a hundred different forms of community policing, but it is a hundred different forms. it should be a standard. if somebody gets murdered in knob hill or the sunset, the response should be the same. we do not feel the response is the same. from my experience in the black community, it is not the same. the murder, from my understanding, was caught on

tape. how could you have the people of san francisco feel safe if you are going to have this big book event coming to the city? how are you going to secure these people if you have a murderer walking around in the city? we would like our issue addressed. we think the only way you are going to have balanced community policing is if it happens in nob hill and the same way in bayview. otherwise, it is worth nothing. supervisor campos: thank you for sharing your thoughts. i am going to read a few more names. bob hopper, richard alb, dinesh desai. >> my name is karen huggins, and i am president of the holland courts resident counsel, district 9. i am part of the -- i am a

candidate for the cpap in ingleside. i did want to applaud what the brothers said before me. it is very true. i believe that community policing should be district specific to the district. each district is different. it is not a dog without teeth. it has teeth. i would like to throw out the thank you's to officer heart and officer duffin. they have been great. they have met with us. i want to throw that out. i also feel that public housing should be on the board of the