advocates, to all committees, with the legislation is heard -- where the legislation is heard. so far, we have had a legislative advocate participate and give testimony at the meeting that happened last week on monday. the committee actually approved the bill on a 13-0 vote, which i think reinforces your concern that we need to be very active to express our position. supervisor campos: i would simply urge you to be as active, as aggressive as we can be. i know that assembly member ammiano has paid a lot of attention to the issue, and the board has made it clear where we are. just a matter of making sure that our voice is heard. >> i think it is really important that this be perceived

as the city and county of san francisco, not just the transportation authority. it might not hurt to have the mta take a position and express it on that as well. we will be as active as we can. supervisor mirkarimi: the needs to be amplified, obviously by others within the city government. supervisor wiener: i have been in conversation with the mayor's office to make sure our city lobbyist is aggressively lobbying against this measure, and the city needs to speak with one voice. not just having the t.a. out there, but making sure that the city and the mayor's office is aggressively lobbying against this. supervisor mirkarimi: quite right. any other comments on either the report -- on either of the reports? seeing none, we now open up for public comment. >> my name is francisco da costa.

i want to bring to your attention the third street light rail where we spend $700 million. it stops at fourth and king and lands in the middle of nowhere in the visitation valley. the reason why i am bringing this is you can pat yourselves all you want to, but what the transit first city once is good transportation -- with the transit first city wants -- what the transit first city wants. if you look at every element of our transportation, we cannot give the city high marks. on the project like the

transbay, the doyle drive. when we had certain representatives regard the money, and in the future, whether it is from the state or federal, we will not get as much as we thought we would get, and you all know that. but what i am noticing now is having gone to the mtc meetings and other meetings is that san francisco -- this is the city and county of san francisco -- is not going to get due representation. where once we had three, we are going to get two. i want to leave you with this thought -- do not have yourselves to much on the back -- back --pat -- do not pat yourselves to much on the back.

we want results. thank you very much. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. any other public comments? seeing none, public comment is closed. very good. next item. >> item 5, adopted a position on state legislation. this is an action item. supervisor mirkarimi: very good. any comments? seeing none, public comment on this item please? public comment is closed. we will take this without objection. so move. very good. >> item 6, appoint joseph flanagan, jr. to the citizens' advisory committee. this is an action item. supervisor mirkarimi: very good. comments? >> for a long time, i would go to the meetings -- supervisor mirkarimi: your name, please. >> i am well known in the city. supervisor mirkarimi: for the

record, please. >> i do not have to double my name. you can read the brown act. -- i do not have to divulg my name. supervisor mirkarimi: as you wish. >> for a long time, i would go to the cac meetings. we had some very astute people, candidates, that wanted to represent the citizens advisory committee to the san francisco county transportation authority, and somehow, we deprive them from representing. what we did was we continued to put in place candidates who were yes candidates and who were not very astute. i am here to tell you i do not know the gentleman who you approve because i was away from the country for quite some time.

but in these given times, we need as to candidates, a state representatives -- astute candidates and representatives who can really understand transportation issues. we also need candidates that represent the diversity of this city. we also need candidates that represent those districts that transportation is not available. you all want to build 10,500 homes in some areas, but we do not have good transportation. if you get new candidates, that is fine. take them around the city, and showed them how the transportation system is. thank you very much. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you, mr. da costa.

may we take this without objection? so move. but >> item 7, up from the authorities funding commitment to the presidio parkway project and approve a bond swap of $19,722,000. this is an action item. supervisor mirkarimi: discussion on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. -- seeing none, discussion is close. public comment on this item. >> i am glad that the project manager is who he is. i know him very well. i was fortunate that i worked at the presidio and established an infrastructure group. prior to this meeting, i did have a small talk with him. i read some comments about union

workers having some conflict, but he explained to me the issue. some creative financing that could help the united states, its prevalence in europe, in canada. some of my partners are involved in that type of creative financing. but what i am concerned is that dole will drive -- doyle drive is built on time, hopefully in two years. that should be good. i wanted to wish you all the best. i followed you on this project for a long time. you are one of the better project managers.

something that has to be emulated by the rest. you can see you walk the walk. next, talk the talk. we need people that are good leaders. we have little money. we cannot waste money. every dollar counts, and i am looking forward to seeing doyle drive completed in less than three years. thank you very much. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you, sir. any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. maybe take this without objection? very good. >> item 8, introduction of new items. supervisor mirkarimi: any discussion on introduction of new items? seeing none, any public comment? on introduction of new items? >> one of the items that should

be put on the agenda is true representation of constituents from our district. oftentimes, when you watch the tv, even in your subcommittee meetings, you look at your audience and ask if there is any public comment, as if, you know, you what some people who are there to speak of, but over the years, people are not coming to get public comment because first, you are deprived -- you deprive people from speaking. especially the ones who are informed. for three minutes. give them one and two minutes. second, the talk has to be kept simple.

the outreach, whether they are blogs or on the internet, or whether you have some heart and give the material to all the seniors, the constituency falls into that bracket. something must be put on the agenda item. something must be done to bring the segments of the population so that they become an element in our transportation system to improve it. something has to be done. they cannot be done in a vacuum. just like you had an agenda item and a hearing on the bedbugs. the topic was not very important, but it is very important, and adversely affect a lot. have some compassion.

this is a city of st. francis. thank you very much. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. that will be considered for introduction of new items. next item. >> item 9, public comment. supervisor mirkarimi: public comment on public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. before the next item, i just want to say because i did not before, thank you to sfgtv for their ongoing excellent coverage of these proceedings. next item please. >> item 10, adjournment. supervisor mirkarimi: have a great day. thank you.

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supervisor kim: good afternoon and welcome to rules committee, our special meeting for march 31. to my left, i have supervisor farrell and to my right, supervisor elsbernd. we only have one item we are considering today. >> the item on our agenda today is listed to go before the full board on tuesday april 12, unless otherwise stated. item one, hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending february 1, 2017, to the ethics commission. there is one seat and three applicants. supervisor kim: thank you. are all three applicants submitting their applications

today? did you hear from any of the applicants? has anybody withdrawn? >> i have not received any notification, but i can check with our office to see whether or not anybody has withdrawn. supervisor kim: that would be great. we heard two weeks ago from two of our applicants, dorothy liu and allen grossman. they have already presented, and we have had a chance and opportunity to ask questions. i wonder of my colleagues would like to ask questions of our candidates. seeing none, we will open up for public comment. if you have comments on applicants, please line up. please make clear if you are in support or opposition of an applicant. helps us when we draft our minutes.

>> i am in support of allen grossman. i am a resident of district 6. the reasons i support him are as follows -- when supervisor kim proposed three questions to each of the candidates, he answered them in a fashion that i think promotes good governance. he is for video recordings of the ethics commission's. he is for all office visits being documented, even in the calendars of government officials. when he was asked what the debate -- biggest issue ethics has, he talked about their need to enforce more open government because with open government, you have good government. i can tell you personally, working with him on different issues at city hall, with obstacles, but meetings, there are many times that i have gotten up the next morning, open my e-mail, and found a memo from

him coming up with a solution to the problem we experienced the previous night. basically, that is the work ethic he has asked a retired business lawyer. i think one of the values he has coming to this is that he is retired and he has time to spend on the issue. it is a very complicated role, and he has the time and knowledge and background to do it. he also cares deeply about these issues. he does not have to deal with the issues of full-time jobs that other applicants have to deal with. also, he does not have -- if he is working for a firm, the firm is not going to potentially receive benefits by the fact that he is a member of that firm. ultimately, the representative on ethics should represent

people, and i think allen grossman is the best candidate. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm here again to support mr. grossman. you probably remember my public comments from several weeks ago, so i will not repeat them, but in the interim, the city attorney has characterized the sunshine task force as a kangaroo court and out to get -- terminate city employees. those outrageous statements make it imperative that you support mr. grossman on the ethics committee so that he can attempt to enforce orders of determination. thank you.

>> good afternoon. i am chairman of the sunshine ordinance task force, speaking parley as chairman of the task force and partly as an individual. regarding the remarks made by the previous speaker, the city attorney has not issued any statement regarding the task force. those remarks came from the city attorney's press spokesman, and mr. dorsey has told me and told the sfbaycitcitizencolumnist.or that those remarks are coming from him as a city employee, said they are not to be reflected in any way of the city attorney's position. regarding the appointment to the ethics commission, i wish to reiterate my strong support for allen grossman. he has been immensely helpful to the task force in a couple of

areas, one of them dealing with the ethics commission, and i think he would be an outstanding member of the ethics commission. thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i am here to support allen grossman. i work for the ethics commission for over nine years. one of the commission's most important duties is protection, and during my time there, i was compelled to expose repeated violations by staff with limited by a license, the commission has not been receptive to such whistleblowing. since i have witnessed crimes being committed to the fulfillment of the agency's mandate, once i tell you today that it is imperative that the of what may be a dedicated,

independent, demonstrated advocate for good government, not a play along, get along political insider who's professional location consists of achieving positions of managers in employment hierarchy. dorothy liu is a friend of supervisor chiu and julius turman is a friend of supervisor wiener. only allen grossman is independent. i can think of no better or relevant examples than successfully suing ethics to compel it to comply with the very laws it is supposed to safeguard, such as mr. grossman has done. two candidates have both made

campaign contributions to one or more cities -- sitting supervisors. this choice presents an opportunity for each supervisor to proudly show the public that boded to appoint a truly independent watchdog who will hold even you accountable -- showed the public that you voted to appoint a truly independent watchdog. >> good afternoon, supervisors. district 6 resonant, north mission homeowner. i cannot think of a better way for a citizen to express their political -- can we [inaudible] it is difficult to concentrate year. it will be nice to know that before public comment, to see if we should address mr. turman or not. >> office did receive written notification from julius turman

requesting that her application be withdrawn. >> what we have is an individual who has put his money on the line to be sure that the laws in the city and county are faithfully executed. i understanding is the board president expressed concern about this, as if the third branch of the government is irrelevant, as if following the law is optional. in this case, the law was not followed. the city attorney was compelled to settle. i find it strange that my friend matt dorsey make comments to the press to this effect. actually referred to them as wallace, and he is acting as spokesperson for a member of the bar. that is problematic when both the city and county in pop -- in all its forms are its client. there should be a process where under sunshine, all of these claims are exposed. if someone is bringing forth a for claim, that should be heard in the body. that will send a signal back. that is how checks and balances were. but those checks and balances

have been short circuit. the ethics commission is a mess. it has systematically tried to alienated key political natural supporters who want to see open government, by bringing everybody for small amounts of finance. that is not what we want to see. we want to see the ethics commission actually supporting government that is open and honest. that is what we will see these contracts go to the right place. we saw a situation where a waiver was granted for tony hall to go to treasure island. one says political use was exhausted their, the commission decided to hit him with major finds right before he decided to run for mayor here the upshot was he was found to have not committed for what they said he did. perjury went down in those proceedings. yet the district attorney never prosecuted. we do not have a commission that is going to stand up and insist laws be followed, that integrity be respected, that tampering

with evidence and perjury not be accepted in those proceedings. i believe mr. grossman comes with those qualifications. ms. liu mentioned that she wanted to be a team player. we need a coach, not a team player. this will be a test for all of you all, to see where you stand on critical issues of go -- of open government. thank you. >> [inaudible] supervisor kim: excuse me. is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is now closed. i want to thank our applicants for coming back again today. both mr. grossman and ms. liu. thank you for allowing rules committee to continue this item

with there being a last-minute applicants hear all the now, it seems he has withdrawn his application. so we are back to square one. colleagues, any comments or a motion? >> i'm sorry mr. turman withdrew his application. would have been interested on his thoughts. we had two solid candidates. we have one solid spots. i believe in reviewing those applications and thinking about the hearing and thinking about the next six years. i think our best candidate and the person who could best represent the ethics commission would be ms. liu, and i would like to put in a motion to send her name forward as our nominee.

, i agree with supervisor elsbernd. we have two amazing candidates, both of whom have contributed a lot to the city and have done a lot of amazing work. i want to thank you for your time because this is a commission that involves time commitment and dedication and does some very important work around local government, as many of the folks have said in public comment, and i think both of you will serve very well on our ethics commission. after having taken some time to consider to every zero weeks ago in the hearings and some of the letters of support we have gotten from our office and hearing from folks that have supported both candidates, i have also -- you know, given that we have one spot open, i am committed to supporting ms. dorothy liu as well. >> [inaudible]