if i do this, when will i get a result of that, and the honest answer they would give it is "do not expect to see results." over and over, the women would say, "i do not want to do it." there was a published study that showed how much higher instances of cooperation there was. frankly, san francisco employees had to tell a rape victim's," i am sorry. do not expect a speedy to it, and i cannot even tell you when you will get a note result -- get a result back." commissioner kingsley: so, again, going back to the question -- thank you, commissioner. going back to the question about whether or not this commission would like any feedback, am i the only one? six months? does that make sense?

would that work, capt., from your end and being able to give us an idea about how well the system is working? >> no, i think i can work with the inspectors to work in the sexual assault unit. they are the ones to work with the victims and probably know them better than anyone else. i should probably able to do that in six months. commissioner kingsley: ok, thank you very much, captain. president mazzucco: thank you very much, capt. ok, next we have a line item 5- b. secretary lt. falvey: the occ director's report.

director: i was absent from last week's meeting because i was part of a 15-member delegation that went to memphis, including commissioner angelo -- angela chan, looking at the mentally ill and psychiatric crisis. it was informative and rewarding, but i will defer to commissioner chan to give you a more detailed report of the trip. on another note, on march 28, i received a letter from the human rights commission. they transmitted the february 24, 2011, reports, that memorializes recommendations gleaned from the september 23, 2010, hearing, on community concerns about surveillance, racial come in religious profiling of arab, middle

eastern, muslim, and the asian community, et -- racial, religious -- racial and religious profiling of arab, middle eastern, muslim, and the asian community. to consider the issues brought to light in the hearings, and the mayor requested that she contact me and also other individuals, as well. the recommendation of the human rights commission specific to the office of citizen complaints is that our audit report be more detailed. as you are aware, they govern in the san francisco police department criminal investigations of the activities protected by the first amendment. by requiring first that there is justification for the investigation and second written approval by the commanding officer or the deputy chief or the chief of police.

historically, the occ has prepared a detailed hotter -- audit reports. chief gascon saw that there were some issues. i have contact with director sparked -- sparks' office, and i will address this with the chief, as well. other dgo's and police practices, which they addressed to the police commission, which i am sure you are aware, and then on another note, i will discuss the specifics, and as your calendar permits on april 27 or may 11, i would like to provide the third quarter statistical report, and that

concludes my report. commissioner: i also want to comment on that. the middle eastern, muslim, pet and intelligence gathering, just what you're talking about. there are more issues, and they have asked for changes. i have had a meeting with the department and hopefully will have further meetings about making potential changes to those dgo's. there was also an issue about the joint terrorism task force and what is a memorandum, and at that meeting, we were told that we could not get that

information. however, but the question we have is that the current memorandum be at the police department. there is a lot we have to add to the calendar," as well as, i think commissioners slaughter and mazzucco -- i think we should put on the agenda to discuss the entire report and recommendations that they have made and see whether or not we will review it and hopefully implement many of those. president mazzucco: thank you. anything more for the director? item 5-c./ -- 5.c. president mazzucco: commissioners, anything?

commissioner chan: i will talk more about memphis. i brought back some popcorn to share. i will give a more detailed report, basically, what i saw was amazing. in previews, i saw an officer talk someone down from threatening suicide. i was right there, and it was utterly amazing. she used purely her power of persuasion and the high level of respect that she gave the order to prevent that from happening. president mazzucco: ok, we will move on to item 5-d. secretary lt. falvey: item 5-d, commission announcements, the scheduling of items identified for consideration at future commission meetings, and

scheduling of future district commission meetings. president mazzucco: commissioner dejesus? commissioner dejesus: we are already at the end of march, and i would personally like to see get a community meeting in each of the 10 districts before the end of the year. we have to get on it and get it scheduled if we decide all of a sudden that is the route we want to go. president mazzucco: we can do that. we generally do not meet in december, so if the meeting is in the last week of the month, which they normally are, the last week of the month, we could plan them out.

>> commissioner marshall, the first one we have is january 5, so maybe we can reverse it? so that we can free up this part of december in meet in december? -- and meet in december? vice president marshall: where are we? commissioner hammer: we talked about it two weeks ago. it looks like it has been since july 2008 or august 2008. i think it has been more recently. you are right. february. it was one year ago. vice president marshall: we will take suggestions. commissioner hammer: if i could just finish that, it was frankly more in castro than in mission. i was at that meeting. in mission, it has been two

years almost, 1.5 years. vice president marshall: a high- crime homicide area. commissioner hammer: we talked about that. the mission. commissioner dejesus: there are some districts we have not met in for over a year because the last couple of years, we have only met at 5 districts. there you go. maybe the richmond is a place to start, or use a combination of high crime areas as well as places we have not been to in a couple of years and perhaps give the tenant -- get lt. falvy to

look at it. vice president marshall: usually, we have the third wednesday reserve for disciplinary cases. the schedule and bring it back to us? >> i would be happy to do that. commissioner hammer: commissioner marshall, that is what i was going to suggest. commissioner kingsley, commissioner mazzucco, lt. falvey -- i am sorry, commissioner. i did not see you. it five or six for the rest of the year, i think it may be ambitious to think we will get all 10, but you have my proxy. you can just set it up and go. .vice president marshall: and if we did that, that would help with the scheduling of the rest of our meetings for the rest of the year. ok.

public comment of -- on 5-a, b, c, and d. anyone? >> commissioners, did meeting. -- good evening. i just have a quick question. looking at 2008 versus 2009, it looks like you do not meet in certain parts of the city. is that because the crime rate is low? or there are no real issues in those districts? and how you go about making announcements in this districts to let the public know that they are having a meeting -- in those districts to let the public know that they're having a meeting so you can get a good turnout of the residents who live there and the commercial community? i would like to know how that happens, because i have not -- i take the bus in san francisco. i used to drive a taxi in the

city. i have not seen one fire anywhere at any given time to any community meeting over x number of years -- i have not seen one flyer. i think this is an issue you ought to address with the meetings, et -- meetings, because i think in order to have satisfactory meetings, you have to have a satisfactory turnout of people at those meetings, not just local activists, etc., etc., and that is my comment. vice president marshall: any further public comment? we will try to schedule meetings at all of the district's we have -- districts we have. this just came up because of the

rising homicide rate issue. we normally try to get to all of the districts. i note the meeting is publicized through the commission office and through the district. the district captain himself. all right, no further public comment on that item? commissioner kingsley: just throwing this out to the last speaker, sir? if you have any specific suggestions of what you think effective outreach is on the part of the commission to get the message out, we are open to any suggestions you have that are specific on that point. to the lieutenant would be terrific. thank you. vice president marshall: all right, a public comment on that is closed. item number six. secretary lt. falvey: did you

want to item number four? a discussion review status of the commission's priority list and possible action to repriori tize itee -- items. vice president marshall: commissioner, this is your baby. commissioner: this is on the work we did at the retreat. lt. falvey has the criteria for setting priorities and the priorities that we established back in october of 2010, and there are a number of items that we may want to consider, a number of items we may want to

add. personally, there are three items that i would like to have us address, in what is a procedure which we informally indicated we would pursue haute back in, i believe, january of this year. but we would pursue back in, i believe, january -- we informally indicated we would pursue back in, i believe, january of this year. the third item would be a consideration of whether or not in in what form an audit overview of the department would look like or if we want that type of process to take place, so those are our three thoughts that we have in terms of priorities that we did not address back in october.

vice president marshall: we have the top priorities. commissioner: that is right. vice president marshall: that particular list right there? commissioner: that is right. vice president marshall: some of these we have addressed. or have we? commissioner: well, we have addressed at least a component of mental-health, and we are scheduled to address the officers' item. i believe that is on the calendar very soon. april 13. language access, nightclub violence, and another, the three areas include -- in red. vice president marshall:

commissioner, just to look at this, my thought is have we sort of mint in and out of -- sort of moved in and out of viet -- of the tiers? commissioner hammer: yes. vice president marshall: our folks comfortable with that? secretary lt. falvey: the dna portion was presented tonight. so you can check that off. vice president marshall: yes. commissioner: my comment about the discussion principally centered around the fact that we are going to have a new chief in a matter of weeks, maybe a month or something like that, and in my own view of the optimal weight is that the new chief,

who is effectively the chief executive with millions in the budget, should get a substantial amount input in terms of what the priorities should be and how he or she wants to proceed over the medium, short, medium come ashore, and long term, so the items that you mentioned, commissioner -- short, medium -- short and long term, so the items that you mentioned, pet -- mentioned, commissioner kingsley, i think each of us has a different view over what is important, and that is what i would really look to leadership from the person who is accountable for making it all happen, and i unfortunate joined

the commission just after you all worked so hard, but we saw that in just that six-month period, due to evens out of our control, our agenda has changes, so given that, there has to be flexibility, and it is just my personal view that we have got to make sure that whoever the chief is will buy into the schedules, because it will be them. i am happy to add to the list of what people think of priorities, but i am not quite sure to say it is right to either set deadlines or such, but when the chief comes in, we can say that we have had a discussion. these are things that are important to us. what is important to you? that is my two cents, and i will leave it at that. vice president marshall: really quickly, there is one item we

can take off, and that is the third tier on shooting moving vehicles. secretary lt. falvey: we did it. vice president marshall: ok. commissioner hammer? commissioner hammer: i think what commissioner slaughter said, we reviewed a large number of candidates, and we referred names to the mayor, who hopefully soon will pick somebody, and then he or she can be in their leadership. i do think some of these items -- of the commission. for instance, surveillance activities. " -- whatever the next chief things of that, we have a duty, and especially, for instance, in the muslim community in san francisco for it to feel that it is not targeted, as it has dealt

in the past. looking at our top priorities in accordance with the retreat, commissioner kingsley, and perhaps when we have a chief, we can revisit it and get their input. i think we have enough were the target here and then maybe come back to this discussion. that is my suggestion. vice president marshall: commissioner dejesus? commissioner dejesus: i tend to agree with both commissioner slaughter and commissioner hammer. we have to be able to switch. i do think that there are some items that fall within the purview of this commission that we have to address. making sure that our policies are up to date.

the surveillance it's a significant one, and that should be moved up to -- the surveillance is a significant one, and that should be moved up so we can do those dgo's. unreal other hand, i do believe there are policy issues that the commission should address. vice president marshall: here is my question? how do we do this without having to retreat could i am comfortable with assigning a few, i am. commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: well, commissioner marshall, keeping in mind what all of the

commissioners of expressed about working within the overall policy and structures, a structure that we as a commission feel is important as well as retaining flexibility for items that come upped as well as keeping in mind that we will have a new chief at some point soon, i think that we can accomplish all of that in terms of honing in on what our red tier would be, as well as new items that we bring up tonight. perhaps we go item by item and have a vote if we need to get to that point in terms of getting items into that. vice president marshall: i am

fine with a couple of folks working on it. i do not know if you want to go through the whole list like we did at the retreat. assigning priorities, five or six things, continuing on to page two we could do it here, but i would be happy with a couple of folks working on it and then bringing it back. commissioner kingsley: one of the things is whether or not we agree with certain new things being added to the list, and this is something that commissioner slaughter raised, as well. new items. vice president marshall: i do not have any problem with foreign them in if they are

still on commissioners' minds -- i do not have any problem with throwing them in. commissioner: some are very high priority for me. whether they are red pr b;ie -- red or blue. secretary lt. falvey: -- commissioner slaughter: i think what commissioner marcia was suggesting is that we have a group go out to say, these are the 20 items, and put them into categories and come back in two weeks and say, "year is," rather than having a conversation where we have to get a debate.

again, if people want to do with a different way, that is fine. vice president marshall: suggestions to put on the list. commissioner: i was just looking for a speedy way to do this. commissioner kingsley: for us to take this list as well as any items that the commissioners want to add tonight, and then come back. vice president marshall: ok. done. all right. then public comment on item number four? seeing none, the tennis, please call item no. 6.

-- seeing none, a lieutenant. secretary lt. falvey: item number six, public comment on all matters pertaining to item 8 below, closed session, and public comment on whether or not to hold item eight in closed session. vice president marshall: item number 7. secretary lt. falvey: item number seven, to move into closed session. vice president marshall: without objection. we will move into closed session. secretary lt. falvey: item eight will be in closed session. b vice president marshall: can you

call item no. 9? secretary lt. falvey: item number nine, disclosed item 8. vice president marshall: a motion? please call the next item. secretary lt. falvey: the next item is adjournment. vice president marshall.: we are injured.