couple of other officers, and actually, note the it -- actually, the executive director jocelyn kane was at that meeting. they want to open a bona fide restaurant and have a lounge after the food. we do have an abc condition, which calls for food operations wherever they are open until 2:00 a.m. for the meal service to go until 1:30, and it is our intention to always serve food when we are open, up to 30 minutes before we close. this will be a normal restaurant. anyone who is at the meeting, ms. kane can tell you, the food was a bit late getting out, but it was great, very good food. the concept is $8 to $12 per small plate, and i would request

that there be a conditional grant. also, we have some conditions for haute officer gallagher. if you have any questions, we're here to answer. president newlin: commissioners, questions? commissioner joseph? vice chair joseph: do you have an idea to advertise your venue? >> i do not believe there is any radio advertising. is that correct? i think there will be no radio advertising. it will be social media and email. vice chair joseph: ok, and has any one of the owners and done anything like this before? or are they going to purchase something? how are they doing this? >> i believe that mr. gor has

been in the party promotion business for something like 12 years on and off. he is sort of semi retired in that. he has connections. vice chair joseph: thank you. >> hello, i am jerrold gor. vice chair joseph: can you tell me some of the things that you have done? >> we have done some year after year. we have done a lot of fund- raisers. some of benefits for different college organizations and groups. vice chair joseph: ok, and are you going to be primarily a restaurant, or is this could to be in addition to being a lounge? >> we will be doing mostly a restaurant. vice chair joseph: so you will

not be doing pat-downs during dinner? >> no. vice chair joseph: on your security plan, you talk of the guys walking a 100 foot radius. will you be able to go across the street, as well, and check on the parking lot across the street that was a problem for the previous owners? >> we are going to attempt to talk to the owner of the parking lot, because that is just about one of the few places to park in the neighborhood, and it has been a problem, so if possible, we would like to rent that parking lot in charge for parking. -- and charge for parking. vice chair joseph: good idea. >> i think in the past, they have gone over there and hung out, which does cause a problem. vice chair joseph: the under 21,

with the alcohol, what will you be doing? will you be wrist banding them? >> we could do wristbands' or stamps. vice chair joseph: so i go to the bar in order a drink, how do they know if i am 21 or not? >> they are going to card anyone who looks under 32. we can also have a guard at the front door, as well. vice chair joseph: ok, so i think you should have a method of identifying people over 21, something like a wristband that they can show so they can buy drinks. ok, and my last question is this. all security personnel will be trained. i want to know who is doing the

training. and if you are going to hire in house security training, i want to know which one of you knows enough about security? >> we are contract in that. vice chair joseph: ok. thank you. president newlin: commissioner meko? commissioner meko: i may have missed this, but do you intend to hire outside promoters? >> we have contact with outside promoters, that they bring a good product to the community. there are other venues, as well. we will have an outside promoters, yes. commissioner meko: ok, is that consistent with what you said earlier about putting the restaurant first? that would make the entertainment first? >> we are trying to establish

ourselves from 5:00 on. promotions will, on friday and saturday. 10:00. last couple of hours. normal lounged hours and then continue. we do tend to not charge of the door and just seven open policy to get the neighborhood involved to just come in freely. mr.? >> if i could add to that, there seems to be an idea in san francisco where the word "promoter" and "antichrist" are synonymous. this year francis drake hotel has promoters, at least three or four nights a week, and those are restaurants, but, for some reason, if you have invitations sent out by d. j. donovan or

sebastian or something, it will draw a nice crowd, and there are some decent promoters, so i in we need to not be so paranoid of the word "promoters." commissioner meko: you are not suggesting that any of the commissioner sitting up here are paranoid, are you? >> we have para no. right now. commissioner meko: -- we are all paranoid right now. commissioner meko: in the event that this restaurant does not succeed, you will still have a place of entertainment permit, and that permit is in no way tied to your being an eating establishment. that is between you and the abc, so we, i do not think, are going to venture into that territory. we do not enforce the percentage of food that you are serving or anything like that. we simply give you the permit to allow you to have a live music,

deejays, whatever. in the event that the current business model does not succeed, there is the possibility note that you could then change your business monaco to promote the entertainment aspect of the business more. that is what i did ask about the promoters. i would also be interested to know if you have any plans to encourage party bosses to stop at that location. >> we are hoping that we never see a party bus, but one thing i would say is that i have a signed and stamped copy of the actual conditions that are going to apply to this license through alu and the alcohol beverage control. six teen very tough conditions and about 10 or 11 of them have to deal directly with being a full-service restaurant, one of which i will read.

number six, 75% of the worst days must have tables, chairs, necessary utensils, and -- commissioner meko: that is their job. >> it is their job, and i think that if they do not do, and they will be found to be in violation. commissioner: i have a question for mr. lwin? i see this. from 2005? is that correct? can you tell me what the percentage was? >> basically, going over bookings as far as the area after they got book, also court made in the sound and lighting

and additional event, such as catered events, and so forth, just making sure the operation is set up. commissioner: during those years of your employment -- >> i know this happened towards the end of my employment there, and basically, i love to start another project. so i am not sure exactly the outcome. i did not follow up on it, but during that time, when i first started, there were not any issues, and probably when i was working there, that is when the issue started rising. commissioner: what did you do with those issues? >> i was in a position to deal with those issues. there were two above me.

commissioner: was there -- during this period? >> yes. commissioner: that is a little concerned, i have to tell you. in your plan, you submitted a plan from shaw security, but now, i think you said you are hiring eipic -- epic? >> yes, we are hiring epic, and then we were approached by shock, and d. j. donovan had suggested going with shaw -- we were approached by shaw.

commissioner: so there is no security plan? >> yes, we have a security plan. >> i wrote that for them. commission: do i have that in my book? vice chair joseph: it says rendezvoused -- rendezvous tap as. commissioner: 1 security god for every 50, instead of the normal one for every 100, and i was just curious as to why that security -- one security guard for every 50. >> we will want one inside. commissioner: i guess my last

comment is that there is not a police officer in san francisco who does not know immediately where 2080 van ness. i cannot imagine your opening a business at an address that would bring you more scrutiny, from businesses, the neighbors, white miso. i just want you to be aware of that. i hope you do a great job here. i hope you are successful. i hope there are no problems whatsoever. i am not hugely confident of that right now, note but i have no means to officially object. i have nothing further. vice chair joseph: would you are saying is that you did production and setup of the

room. what will you be doing at this place? >> basically, more of the bookkeeping, doing inventory -- vice chair joseph: so you are doing operations. >> different operations. i will not be oversee the event itself, but i will be setting things up behind that. vice chair joseph: ok, thank you very much. president newlin: do we have anyone from the police department? commissioner: it says here on your application that you're reaching out to various community organizations, but it says you are aggressively contacting them, so once you get a chance to meet with them, what kind of discussion you plan to have with them? -- do you plan to have with

them? >> currently, to meet with them every three months, to see what they might have issues with, or see what things we could do to make things better, and, hopefully, we will have a long acting relationship with them. i am hoping to be part of the community over there. commissioner: how you are reaching out to every day neighbors. >> opentable and yelp. basically, they will come by and see we have a restaurant. we are doing much of the remodeling ourselves, and a lot

of people stop by, they will have their email and contact numbers. commissioner: banks. -- thanks. president newlin: ok, police? >> i am with the san francisco police department, inspector falzon. this application is a bit of a sticky wicket, because we have to give a lot of credit to you all, and i very much appreciate your commitment tonight to this issue, because we know the old operators were problematic.

they simply could not grasp the scope of what they were trying to do, and they never really could manage the place, so when we all recognize this come in when you're commission was involved, you're executive director was involved, as well as your sound tech, we wanted to get new operators in for one sole purpose, and that was to have a war restrictions to curtail the business and better protect the community -- to have more restrictions. the other idea was to have relocation. -- revocation. a copy has already come to you. having said that, we will watch this very closely. with these new conditions in play, we can move very swiftly,

and this is the part that i kind of want to reinforce. what i have heard them say and what i want to hold them to is that there first and foremost a restaurant. as long is that -- as that is true, we will not have many problems with them, and neither will the community. there is one. restriction of want to mention to you, a condition. the sale of alcoholic beverages shall not exceed the sale of food, so we are boxing these people in to be a bona fides restaurant, a bona fide eating place, so i think what we're getting is operators with some history, that has been established tonight. the history may not be exactly what we want, but they are willing to take on this project. they had been sincere with us and receptive to the commission. they have done some outreach with the community. with the new conditions they have accepted, i am reasonably

confident we can move forward reasonably safely. having said that, i will tell you this. if things do not work out, the police department will not allow a transfer, and we will go for a relocation, and they will get nothing to sell. speaking to commissioner meko's comments, they will lose a very serious asset. i answered to -- happy to answer any questions if i can. president newlin: no? members from the public who would like to comment on this application? >> good evening, commissioners. my name is dawn, and i am with the neighborhood association that 2080 van ness is within the

boundaries. i have had the opportunity to meet with the new owners and taste their very delicious food and get an idea of what they plan for this location. the immediate neighbors very much want to see a change at that location. you know very well what has been going on there, and it has been a very bad and dangerous situation for neighbors, so change is very welcome. hearing the comments this evening, i say there are a few questions about promotions and promoters, and if you questions about the parking lot security, as that has been a problem. we are in agreement " with this particular business plan, in general, and we would like the addition of a three-month, six- month, and 1-year review so that we can address any issues that we might not be able to foresee today and that we would have an

opportunity to have some sort of formal review and identify anything that might be bothersome or becoming bothersome and curb it quickly. so they can proceed, and they can have a great business at this location. thank you. president newlin: 80. any other comment? seeing none, commissioners? vice chair joseph: i would like to make a motion to approve. director: this would be the considerations of the police department as well as the conditions asked for by the member of the public. m --commissioner meko: before we

entertain a set in motion, i would just like to comment. six-months, three-months, and 1 years, that seems to be a reasonable request, and i would like to ask that this be added to the conditions korea what was said by the police department, i think they are all fine, as well, but let me just go through the one with item one, maintaining a food restaurant. that is outside of our jurisdiction, but it does sound like the abc has this covered, just about every which way possible. number two, soundproofing. number three, not violating the sound ordinance. number four, at doors and windows being kept closed, and number five, security during all times of entertainment. those are all already covered by

the policy. director: correct. commissioner meko: no. 9, shot provide no. station with a monthly calendar of events, and i would like that to include supply the entertainment staff with a monthly calendar, and those are my suggestions. vice chair joseph: some of these police commission's suggestions are already in our guy. that is my motion. -- in our guide.

commissioner meko: that, i will second. secretary: i am going to go ahead and call the world. we have been joined by commissioner praisner. -- p [e -- perez. [reading roll] vice chair joseph: low calorie tapas. president newlin: ok, we would jump around, and we do not want to keep them here with the police department comments and questions. anyone want to do anything additional? >> president, vice president,

commissioners. inspector falzon, once again. it is a little bit belated, but we talked about instituting a our training in our districts. we did take that off. the commission participated. we had sound tech granelli brought in. we and other stations, like southern, and by no means are we done. the response was quite exceptional. the interaction with the officers was very enthusiastic. i think something we will all benefit from. i think the community will benefit. i most certainly think the industry will, and i would like to think that you will be seeing a better product from us with

this increased training. on that note, if you have any comments on the project. commissioner: just in your estimation with respect to the training, what do you think your officers learned the most? what was the most significant piece of information they did not previously have? >> i think what was really solid was touching on a lot of the basic nuances of the abc act, and actually the rights and privileges of a liquor license. from there, we talked about in entertainment permit and some of our other permits, and i know you aussies more and more, because we gather, and and most importantly, interpretation, and that is something that mr. granelli saw.

we have a lot of different opinions with what could and could not be done, and we left that night how it lawfully and could be done, so you will be the beneficiaries down the road as you see more products from us, hopefully addressing the elements of the crimes, so that we are not sitting here at a loss when we are going over it, wondering how we got to this point. the other thing we have talked a lot about at this commission is a misnomer about citations. we can accomplish a lot just by document an event, and we spend a lot of time on that. all too often, and i know it happens here at the commission, as well, we hear all of this anecdotal data after the fact, after you have approved a permit, perhaps after the abc has been approved, and then we hear this is a huge problem. what we are encouraging our officers now is to document. if you go, and it is a fight,

for example, we ask that they take a moment and at least do some basic documentation so we can track that down the road. the other thing we can talk about, and i think this will be to relieve valuable for the community and the industry, establishing a nexus between the crime and the premises, and that does not always exist. to identify that. there are going to be occasions because of the nature of the business, everything will go wrong, and we all know that that day will come when every club is going to have its dark day, hopefully not very dark. having said that, we can always blame the clubs for everything, and we're heading in a direction that when we come to you, we want to have as strong of a credibility as possible. moving on to a totally different topic, very briefly, we were

having a lot of problems with 1015 folsom. someone was traveling and communicating from a distance. they met with the club. we met with the club at southern station. celotex -- sound tech granelli was involved. there were some detailed injunctions filed against them, and although that injunction is not in play anymore, it was brought to this owner's attention that we need to start getting back on top of basic club's security and club good business pic