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responsibly to individuals who are in psychiatric crisis, and to be able to blend all of the resorgses -- all of the resources that we have together in a cohesive and coherent way is going to really make the work
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done by the community and the department something we can be proud of. what i did see in memphis from the police officers who were involved in the crisis intervention team was the pride that they had in working on that team. gep, i will save my ride-along story which involved an individual who is not only alcoholic but also had a psychiatric crisis, and how the officer was able to deescalate -- de-escalate the situation, but again, for another day. commissioner chan: we did run this timeline by the chief. i want to thank the chief. he said last week he thought it was a good idea.
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>> thank you, commissioner chan. it is quite an undertaking and an impressive group roster, and the coordination of that is really rather remarkable. a couple questions for you, and one for dr. woodard. is the sfpd trained officers going to wear the pin, too? will we have an identifying pin for our officers? commissioner chan: yes, that will be the idea. we will do our own spin on the pin. that's what i have heard other counties do. we have discussed, captain goldberg and myself, as to whether or not someone is previously cict trained how that would work. and the working thought on this, and it might change, is that we will ask the officers to go
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through special training. there is special de-escalation training, but it would be a plus if they had already been through this training. second question. the story you told us in connection with your ride-along was rather riveting, and did you get information around repeaters, for example? this woman was taken to get therapy. you know, do the folks that are taken to resources and facilities, is there a follow-through over a long period of time that cuts down the trips that the police officers are making? or is it, you know, almost like an alcoholic with a d.u.i. where you just continually see repeat offenders and you are constantly, you know, dealing with it? >> and maybe we'll share more
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stories as we report back, because they are interesting stories, and i want to be able to share them. we'll come back with those more detailed stories. it seems some other folks ride-alongs, that officers on down time that they might have, they actually check in on people that they know have mental health needs and there is a relationship that's developed. they will actually go to residences where they know they have residents that live thrfment have you been taking your medication? how are you doing? that type of thing. so there isn't that elevation to crisis as frequently. >> do they keep statistics around repeat persons and whether or not there is a follow-through with mental health over the long period for them to get better in memphis? did you get a sense for that a? >> that's a good question. i don't have a specific answer. i'm looking at sam ramera, because she knows all this
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inside and out, if she has an answer to this. >> i do know that dr. dupont and major cochran collect data. some of the data they have is ongoing. there is a lower recidivism rate. officers that bring individuals to services when they look at those individuals months later, they are still involved in the services versus individuals brought to jail. commissioner: thank you. dr. woodard, the statistics are amazing, 7,000 or more people that you all see? >> that's correct. commissioner: is that folks that have drug issues but not necessarily a diagnosed disorder?
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how do those statistics break down? >> those numbers i quoted are the total numbers. we have seen anywhere from 400 to 700 a month averaging out to 7,000 a year. that's all patients. that's not differentiating between someone with a primary substance abuse problem or a primary psychiatric problem. the breakdown would probably be about 80 to 85% have substance abuse -- co-morbid substance issues. commissioner: meaning they have both? >> meaning they have both. that's why having appropriate dispositions for people with bans substance abuse disorders
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like sobering centers, out-patient rehab where drug abuse is critical. when those resources are cut, it ends up backing up the resources . >> and doctor, that includes alcoholism as well as illegal drugs? >> i'm referring to alcohol as well. >> so about 15% are nondrug abuse, that don't have a drug abuse. >> i would say, it's been about 11 years. about 10% to 15% probably have no substance abuse issues, but the majority do. p commissioner: thank you very much.
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commissioner hammer: i remember when commissioner mazzucco and i went down, chan and i, and commissioner mazzucco's office, went down looking at the best model and within two months we're at this point, and that is really remarkable. this effort came about because of lots and lots of stances where folks were severely -- severely instances where folks were mentally ill or hurt. the fact we have gotten this far in two months is smog short of remarkable. i want to thank acommissioner chan for taking the lead on this. i want to thank chief godown. we were in his office. we were wowed by it. we asked chief godown to talk to them. he had the openness and smarts
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to say, let's get this going from that point on. i want to thank you and commend you for that. it made a big difference, and it is make a big difference in san francisco. i want to thank the folks sitting here, who came here part of this working group. i met you all one night when oongla had you -- when angela had you corraled nay conference center. this couldn't be here if day after day you folks hadn't done the work you did. if you keep doing it, we'll have a better city in six months, 12 months, nine noes months. so as a san franciscoan, i want inform say thank you to all of you. >> i want to thank commissioner chan. i want to thank compligser hicks as well as the working group and chief goldberg and the department, because this is great.
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combhigser chan: i'm looking at this, and it was intense. it was actually a lot more intense. is -- i slowed it down twice to people. if -- >> we -- if we get half of this accomplished, it will be amazing. commissioner marshall: i hear people all the time saying, why don't the police do this? why don't the police do that? they aren't trained for it. at this time -- i do this every day, so it is no big deal for me, but officers aren't trained
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for this. now they can actually have the training to do what folks ask them to do all the time. you know, it's been unfair to me for them to be singled out and be to lamented for not doing something they haven't been trained to do. >> commissioner slaughter. commissioner slaughter: they are the ones on the frontlines bringing people in crisis in, and they will have the resources and they will know how to be most effective there. i did have a question for catherine goldberg. it seems to me, to be most effective, this is a partnership. it is not really law enforcement, it is the community getting involved.
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the working group is a tremendous list of people from around the community. have you started hearing response within the department? is the word getting out about it? . my only concern is, if you are the only sfpd person on this list, i want it to be that and not what the health department is putting to the department. we believe as a commission this works best when it is a true partnership. >> that is true, commissioner. first of all, we're still formulating plans. as was said, people from the academy had people with grants working on that. there is participation growth. as the program emolves, we're growing. there's a draft ready to go.
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the command staff ready to come out. as i told the committee, the officers generally sit back and wait. we'll get 25 volunteers. i'm confident about that. the next group will sit back and say, are they being supported? is it develop uble? or is this not something that i want to participate in for a variety of reasons? we're not offering at this point -- there is really no incentive other than the additional skill set they are going to get for being a c.i.t. officer. you know, there is the -- there has been no discussion about monetary compensation that -- that may come up. so it is very, very important as we rule this out and people see the value of it the success of the operation, the gratitude
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that those officers get, that there are those intangible benefits that the rest of the officers are going to say, hey, that's something i might want to do. as commissioner chan said, the officer in memphis wanted to join because when that officer first came in, he saw a c.i.t. officer come out with a successful outcome in a situation. i think that's why we come to the police department, we come because we want to be of service. no one positive outcomes tono one like. positive outcomes to make changes. that's something -- success breeds squess. >> i appreciate that. everyone has worked too hard. i appreciate ayour initial comments that it has been a success. it is bringing people together. we have a crazy flow chart that is scary to look at, in giving officers the tools they need to work together. as i said, my concern -- my concern is making sure that it
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is a true partnership, and not between the department. >> there has been tremendous support from the department. i think the support is only going to grow. as the program becomes more and more successful. i think the biggest challenge as we stand here today is to get that first one out, do it right. if we do it right, and provide the support and training -- you know, not just the police department, but from the c.i.t. community, the mental health professionals, people will be lined up to join. >> thank you. i want to thank commissioners hammer, chan for all their hard work on this effort. i have to tell you, when we talk about -- we talked about our priorities at our retreat. it was unanimous this was our first priority. the mental health issues that we witness daily on the streets. to hear there is progress, to see the hard work that's gone into it, and to have mental
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health proverples professionals here today with our officers and to hear that they deal with 7,000 cases a year gives us an appreciation for what you do. you are true heros, and we appreciate that. to hear the fact that you are the officers that bring in those patients per year, it tells you what our officers have to deal with and we have to prepare them and thank them for what they have to dokeal -- deal with. you deal with that part of society most people don't have to deal with. the ones we walk by on the streets sitting in the corner. i have to tell you, a lot of times you talk to kids, what do you want to do when you grow up? like captain goldberg said, they all come to the police department to do good. i think everybody in their training, you hear about this in the catholic squools -- schools, enter to learn, leave to serve. you all are serving the comminte community. we appreciate appreciate that.
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thanks for the hard work of commissioner's hammer and chan. thanks to your hard work you can go to bed and say, you are having an impact on community. people say why are you on the commission? we want an impact on the community. we have done it. it is only going to get better. i have to tell you thank you from the bottom of my heart, thank you. this is something you have done from the bottom of your hearts, so sa you to the mental health community, thank you to the officers, and thank you commissioner chan. commissioner chan: thank you. you will be hearing back from us in two months. hopefully we're on schedule. president mazzucco: thank you. is there any public comment on this? >> commissioners, i'm going to direct this statement to miss e ms. chan because you went on
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about how the sfpd should be wet nurses to a lot of mentally ill people. i don't see that as possible. the sfpd has a job that is tough enough as it is. my vant vantage point as a taxicab driver is a lot greater than yours on the street. i see a lot of the mentally ill walking around. it is not their job to take care of them. their job is to notify the proper authorities. they are not doctors. they are not clinical psychologists. they are not psychiatrists. the job is to inform the proper authorities that this person has a mental problem and has to be dealt with. to make a policeman hi wet nurse is totally out of the question. the job is tough enough as it is. if you push the sfpd in a direction it cannot go, you are going to create more problems than you have. you have to understand that.
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it is a medical problem, not a police rob problem. there are a lot of mentally ill museum -- people on the streets of san francisco. i see the police talking to them daily. there are problems a lot bigger than you want to talk about. to make a policeman a wet nurse it is not possible and not probable. it is never going to happen. you can talk about it. you can talk about 13-year-olds streaming in here that they don't like the sfpd. well they may not like their mother or father either. that's a big problem with a lot of 13-year-olds hanging around on the streets. i've been listening to these commission hearings, and i'm not hearing what i want to hear. i see all the problems. the financial problems, the mentally ill problems, the crime problems. you name it. and i would assume, ms. chan, instead of spending eight
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minutes talking about the mentally ill, you should spend eight minutes on something more constructy. we have a medical establishment to deal with them. we have hospitals to deal with them. we have paramedicics to deal with them. he we don't need the police to deal with them. we don't need you to push them into an area that they can't possibly control or do. they can be nice to the mentally ill, but that's it. i thank you for your time. president mazzucco: any other public comment? >> i would just express the hope this training program will reduce the number of officers that throw out 5150 arrests whenever they don't like what they are doing. my situation, when you don't back down on your insistans that they enforce the law, they make up a 5150 charge to threaten you to make you back down. i have three officers -- matthew
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rogers, hok nishuda, and nicklas buckley, all from the deeply corrupt mission statement. all of whom made the threat to me in the summer of 2010. i've never had a mental health issue. i've never had any problems like that in my life, but they didn't like the fact that i wouldn't back down and my insistans that they enforce the law, even in the cavity row, and three separate officers threatened me with a 5150 arrest. that's not proper. thank you. president mazzucco: i have spoken to commissioner hammer, who is spearheading this. >> we asked for a continuance. president mazzucco: we ask for a one-week continuance on this matter for commissioner hammer to work with deputy city attorney maria blitz who is our rules and procedures guru. we will take that off calendar.
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vice president marshall: is this the same as we were dealing with earlier? president mazzucco: there has been a question about the hearing officers. this is primarily designed to fix some of those and tighten those rules up in the process, ms. blitz went beyond that. we have one set of rules going forward, and then other minor tweaks we'll talk about next week. we've meat meth and conferred with the p.o. a. which i fanked -- thanked her office for. it is primarily the hearing officer edits. president mazzucco item 7-a please. 7-a. reports and announcements. 7-a is the chief's report on crime statistics and recent activities. >> i'm going to talk a little about the crime stats and then
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i'm going to ask the lieutenant to discuss homicide clear clearance rate. then the commander will step up and talk about the property crime issues and some of the things we're doing to suppress some of the property crime issues. as of april 2nd, cry lent crime is down. violent crimes vs. 1,848 last year. we'll still have a slight up-tick in homicides. 19 year to date vs. 13 for 2010. as far as property crimes are concerned, we're down 14%. burglary, the biggest issue we have right now in the city would be property crimes referencing auto thefts and burglaries or breaking into ape locked vehicle. up 14% in auto theft and 20% in burglary theft for motor vehicle. for that reason, we are up in part one crime 2% year to date. many 9,511, but we have 234 more
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crimes this year than last year. more importantly, the theft and motor vehicle category, we're up 461 crimes in that category than last year. that is my report on the crime statistics. if there aren't any questions i'm going to have the lieutenant step up first. president marshall: thank you, chief. lieutenant militello. >> good evening, commissioners, vice president marshall, chief godown, ms. hicks. what you have in front of you is a breakdown of the year-to-date
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homicide statistics for 2011 and a comparison with the same year to date numbers for 2010. first, you will see that in 2011 we have had 20 homicides compared to the same -- compared to 12 in the same period in 2010. we have closed nine of those cases by arrest compared with five from 2010. this shows the tremendous work being done by the 17 investigators that work homicide and the four that were cold case. it is also indicative of the amount of work they put in durget initial hours after a homicide. you may have heard it referred to as the first 48. i could not be prouder of these individuals. the countless hours they dedicate to their cases, never giving up on them. just this last week we cleared a case from a 2006 homicide. in 2010 homicide investigators
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cleared a total of 14 cases from previous years. next you see clearances of additional cases. some of you may recall two high-profile cases we had last year. the first involved an arson involving a body located inside. through thorough investigation our -- the actual homicide occurred outside of our jurisdiction. the second was a stabbing case where a victim was brutally assaulting an individual with a shovel. that individual stabbed our victim, and the district attorney's office deemed the homicide justifiable. if you factor in those two cases, it puts our total case clearance at 12. this shows an overall clearance rate of 65% for 2011 compared to 42% for the same period last year.
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additionally our investigators have identified the suspects in six other 2011 cases. those six caste cases need a bit more work to bring the suspects to justice. i think it is important to say of the 19 homicides we've had in san francisco this year to date, homicide investigators along with the police officers of our department have solved 16-19. i have included -- vice president marshall: do you think it has the clearance rate -- do you think the clearance rate has anything to do with work be -- being moved out to the district station? y think some of it could be. we work collaboratively with other investigative units within the department, and i think because of that collaboration we're able to develop
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information more quickly and it's leading to the arrest. i can't stress the amount of work that my investigators do in homicide. they catch a case. as many of you, i am sure know, oftentimes, they go and they work on just a couple hours sleep every day. i'm really, really proud of them. i think it is a combination of all of that, commissioner, that is cleaning to just these incredible clearance rates. vice president marshall: we can't say -- >> we can say it has helped. a lot of the credit is due to lee as well as david lazar. the homicide investigators work tremendously hard. when i put the blackberry down before going to bed at night,
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and there is a homicide at 2:00 in the morning, i know when i get up at 12:00, they are still working on it. the decentral zation but i think the supervision of the unit, i think that has a lot to do with how it is being run and the quality of the work that we're getting from investigators. vice president marshall: thank you. >> i have also broken down the catagories. if first you look at motive, you will see disputes and gang violence make up the majority of our homicides. of our 19 homicides this year, 14 are contributed -- attributed to gun violence compared with 7 for the same period last year. our homicide investigators work delab collaboratively with other