have. so, the puc has identified a number of treatment measures, and these treatment measures are wide-rangingly selected. i will identify a few here. there are permeable pacing systems. there is a large wetland system that is proposed for the large part area in the northwest corner of the island and the north east. the idea is we can provide habitat creation and apology for visitors for bird watching and other things. there is rain gardens and flood service infiltration areas in more urban, developed areas. vice president moran: you know

we have a problem in this city, between birds and dogs, especially in relation to the federal proposal. what would happen here with birds and dogs? >> that is a good question. i colleague who works in the field, and it is likely we would develop in areas where the habitat is, something similar to what was done -- >> in 2015, i am an incredible dog lover. you are going to tell me where i can take my dog for walks, etc.? >> in a very limited way, yes. [laughter] vice president moran: -- commissioner torres: a limited way? >> the streets, typically, and ian an environment like this --

on all the streets, there are streets bio-filters that serve the first flush treatment measure. lastly, on a large park, we have allocated space for a waste- water treatment program. we looked at it, studied it in the eir, should the puc decided to include that as part of the waste water treatment system. president vietor: thank you. i am excited and appreciate your efforts. particularly, the wetlands peace. we've been talking about doing some kind of pilot for demonstration or program, like public, treating our waste water. i think it will be a lost

opportunity. i have been reading about climate change legislation. and i would include the clinton climate challenge, or what ever it is, to be able to factor that in and create a base line before it goes in and around what wetlands may be able to sequester as far as becoming carbon positive. because i have been reading more and more about the possibility of wetlands. >> i believe the initial inventory we have done has looked the that. i do not know if we got down to that. wetlands for says the habitats on -- versus the habitats of yvi. president vietor: it may be interesting as an urban mitigation strategy for climate change in the city overall.

>> one last slide. just to discuss briefly the next steps. next week, april 21, we will be before the title board and planning commission for the certification of the eir, as well as the general plan and zoning codes, the planning amendment that would need to be done by the planning commission for the approval of the development agreement and other supporting documents and title approval of the development agreement and all the support and assistance to go along with that. all subject to the eir being certified. then it would be back before you on april 26 for the adoption of the ceqa findings, the mitigation and monitoring development plan, the approval of the ica, and by attachment, the infrastructure plan. in the final board of supervisors approval is anticipated for early june. with that, i would open it up to

any discussion. president vietor: commissioner courtney? commissioner courtney: if it is not too much trouble, could you repeat the jobs data? what classification would you consider them to be -- whether they are construction jobs or retail jobs or just general maintenance jobs? >> sure. the first component would be construction jobs through the buildup of the development program over 20 years, and that is anticipated to be 2000 annual jobs in construction trades, various trades, starting first with infrastructure, and in typical trades we would think of as building trades, we would think of as it relates to building development. i do not have specific answers on the full-time jobs or the permanent jobs, but they would be comprised of maintenance

jobs for the parks and open space. they would be common area maintenance jobs for the hoa. retail component, the hotel jobs, that sort of job sector. we have also cleared up to 100,000 square feet of commercial office. that is not currently a component of the program, but we have given ourselves the flexibility to attract a tenant that would find the site suitable. it is generally in the retail and service industries. commissioner moran: if you had to assign a number, the value of the project, a ball park. >> in terms of the total number of jobs created? i will say 40,000 to 45,000 jobs. construction, and the need permanent jobs at around 2000 or 3000. we can get your specific

numbers as part of the fiscal analysis that was done. commissioner vietor: are there questions or comments? >> commissioners, we are still working with various folks. we have been working with a lot of people with the mayor's office over the last several years. mike martin was the lead for it. he is now working on the america's cup. we have staff still discussing things as esoteric to most of us as the death of the pipe, compared to the waste water levels. so we can bring that back to you and ask if this is an appropriate briefing here cost, and appropriate cost for the connection fees and capacity charges and for the developers, so you get a sense of what that might be.

>> do you have any further comments? >> this is going to seem very complex, but your comments and questions were very good, so we think we can distill it down, so when we do our presentation to you, hopefully we can answer some of your questions. as the general manager stated, a lot of it comes down to what side of the legislature the costs actually come down on. that is the big decision you will need to make in two weeks. we will have that information for you in advance. >> is it too early to put together the dry utilities as well? i do not know what that means. i think it means the energy service, right? what it might mean for the puc to take on. >> we can actually run some quick and dirty analysis. we had so many customers, we

charge them at an equivalent to a pg&e kind of rate. what it would take us to recover. whatever infrastructure we are putting in. we actually have some costs associated with all three of our enterprises, that you have in your existing budget that we have been incurring, which may be reimbursed and may not, and we need to sort that out over the next couple of weeks for you as well. commissioner torres mentioned the east bay under the bay bridge, and we have three conner was because we were anticipating the new east ban, and there is a cost associated with that, and if we want to slip a pipe into that conflict, that and people, who pays for that? >> you mean for power? >> for recycled water and wastewater right now. for power, we paid for a new submarine cable to treasure island. we are paying caltrans as part of that.

again, when they moved the east end, it was in line with where the other cable was. we have a new cable. there are costs associated with the project that we have been incurring for years, and now, we have to decide as an entity how we go forward and recover those costs. use our rate payers, or to the developer. them that if we wanted to push the envelope and a distributed project on treasure island, that would provide power for all of treasure island, so when you have been tapping into is, we would manage it. >> right here and as far as when you ask a question for feasibility study, what it would take, there is a dedicated 46 acres that the puc would own, or in a long-term lease with haida -- with tida. we could use that if it were not on the actual building. so there are options that we have there. >> thank you.

than anything else? then adjust the oversight. >> great. thank you very much. >> i have a question. homeless or disadvantaged persons fell 25% -- fell 25% of all jobs. >> back into the additional slides in there. >> do you happen to have a slide number? >> sustainability assets, right? >> down and in the left-hand

corner. >> right, so one of the other documents that would be attached to the development agreement is a job and equal opportunity program. as part of that, 25% of all jobs would be set aside for formerly homeless individuals. we have a separate agreement between tida and the treasure island homeless development initiative. a primary component of that plan is a housing component, but it also has a job training component and economic opportunities, so that is a policy goal that we would fill 25% of all jobs through our partnership with them, but we would also work with the office of work force development arm to bring folks -- formerly homeless folks to the job portion. and and maybe i'm not hearing clearly, but you are saying 25% of all the jobs? >> right.

then let it just seems like pie in the sky. dam it to expect that work force is available and trained and ready to be accessed. but that is the goal. >> ok. commissioner courtney. commissioner courtney: i agree. perhaps we should try to develop on what disadvantaged -- >> we can provide some specifics and bring this information back to you to lay out a little bit more broadly what the components of the job program are, just so you have a fuller understanding. i personally have not worked on that plan. there are others in our office that have, and we can bring them to the presentation and provide information to you in advance. >> it may be safe to assume just for today's meeting that when we have had these discussions

before, we had used a map of the city and county, and in particular areas within particular zip codes. these folks qualify based on their income. maybe we are kind of lumping in the homeless and disadvantaged together. it is still pretty ambitious, but i would like to see more information on that as well. >> we can provide definition on that. delaware the cost to have the problem of labor training program? >> there is about 400, depending on the ethnic flows, but about 400 or 500 students, and they will remain. >> so there is no proposed remodel or infrastructure development for that center? >> that is correct. >> it is a wholly federally operated center? >> correct.

>> any other comments? thank you very much. next item please. are there any public comments on this item? >> we have no speaker cards. >> good afternoon. we would like to really discuss this proposal, but i wanted to make sure you all know that many of us are concerned about the obligations that the puc is taking on. as i personally listen to this discussion, i would encourage you to look carefully at this jobs and equal opportunity agreement. it could be that the puc is getting into something -- it could be that this thing is not financially sustainable with provisions that are in excess.

i do not know if that is where you need to look, but i am concerned about the level of affordability in all of these programs, which i know san francisco loves dearly, but in a situation like this with our extensive and long-term obligations that you are assuming, you want to make sure that there is going to be a viable plan here, and i do not see it. housing, as a development plan -- it does not seem like the best opportunity here, but i know we are too late for that discussion. my advice would be to look carefully at the other agreements that the city is making. because it is going to obligate the puc if they cannot recoup their money. good luck. >> thank you. we always appreciate the input from our citizens advisory committee, so any more detail or

concern that you have, we would love to hear that as you proceed. thank you. any other public comment? next item please. >> item 11, discussion and possible action to improve and other less the general manager of the san francisco public utilities commission to enter into a memorandum of understanding with the department of the environment and municipal transportation agency to install 27 electrical vehicle charging stations in 13 city-owned rogers for public use -- garages for public use. >> thank you. manager of administration and budget power. the mou before you formalizes the roles and responsibilities among the sfpuc, department of environment, an invisible transportation agency. these charging stations will be

publicly acceptable throughout 13 city own garages. the charges are provided to the city free of charge through 2013. the facilities are customers of the power enterprise, and they pay the enterprise rate. approximately a range of facilities between 12 cents and 18 cents per kilowatt hour. during the term of the program, the power provided to the public for the charging sessions will be free, but the power enterprise will recover that cost through the facilities themselves. mta for example. beginning mid-year, the host agencies, including sfpuc, department of the environment, and municipal transportation,

including others will be working together to develop more clarified rules about responsibility of ownership of the facility for the chargers, maintenance costs for future, to 2013, and we will -- we at the agency will collect the data from those chargers -- public chargers. we will be collecting the usage. we will be collecting the profile, when they use it, time of use. the emission savings. the fuel savings. and mainly the performance of the chargers. looking forward to future technologies with charging stations. with that, and happy to answer any questions. >> i just want to be clear -- the puc would pay for the installation of the charging station, and we provide the staffing and maintenance, and we

provide the power? but the power gets recouped because the facilities would be paying the puc basically market rate. 15 cents approximately. even if it is a general fund facility? >> the first question, the charging stations themselves, and that is coming from a grant. >> that is correct. charging stations are being given to the city through a grant. >> so our portion is to pay for the installation by having our staff to the work. >> right. >> and the only stations you are coming up with now our enterprise funds. >> correct. garages are all enterprise customers today. >> that makes it easy. than any other questions or

comments on this item? is there a motion to adopt? >> so move. >> second. >> public comment? >> we have no speaker cards. >> hearing none, the motion carries. thank you very much. >> the next item is closed session. are there any public comments, or shall we call for any public comments on any item in the closed session? >> any public comment on a closed session? hearing none, please continue. >> we can entertain a motion to discuss the matter is listed within the conference of legal counsel. >> is there a motion? all those in favor? opposed? >> if you would give me one moment to read the two items. sorry. threat to public services or facilities, consultation with chief of security, conference of legal counsel pursuant to litigation, tadhge conway v.

city and >> we are back now held a closed session. item 14, there was no action. item 15 was settled. >> would you like a motion to disclose or not disclose? commissioner vietor: yes, is there a motion to not disclose? >> so world. >> second. commissioner vietor: all those in favor? motion carries. next item.

>> [inaudible] commissioner vietor: no, no new business. hearing none, the meeting is adjourned. thank you.

because we have a great waste water system here in san francisco, we do about 80 million gallons of waste water here in san francisco, which means we basically fill up 120 olympic sized swimming pools each and every day here in the city. we protect public health and safety and environment because we are discharging into the bay and into the ocean. this is essentially the first treatment here at our waste water treatment facility. what we do is slow down the water so that things either settle to the bottom or float to the top. you see we have a nice selection of things floating around there, things from bubble gum wrappers, toilet paper, whatever you dump down the toilet, whatever gets into our storm drains, that's what gets into our waste water treatment and we have to clean.

>> see these chains here, this keeps scum from building up. >> on this end in the liquid end basically we're just trying to produce a good water product that doesn't negatively impact the receiving water so that we have recreation and no bad impact on fish and aquatic life. solids is what's happening. . >> by sludge, what exactly do you mean? is that the actual technical term? . >> it's a technical term and it's used in a lot of different ways, but this is organic sewage sludge. basically what it is is, oh, maybe things that come out of your garbage disposal, things that are fecal in nature.

it's sludge left in the water after the primary treatment, then we blend those two over and send them over to digestion. this building is built to replace tanks here that were so odoriferous they would curl your hair. we built this as an interim process. >> is there a coagulant introduced somewhere in the middle of this? . >> this coagulant brings solids together and lets the water run through. that gives us more time in the digestion process, more time to reduce the amount of solids. these are the biggest ones in the world, like we always like to do in san francisco. they are 4 meter, there's none like it in the world. >> really? wow. >> three meters, usually. we got the biggest, if not the best. so here we are. look at that baby hum.

river of sludge. >> one of the things is we use bacteria that's common in our own guts to create this reduction. it's like an extra digestion. one of the things we have to do to facilitate that is heat that sludge up and keep it at the temperature our body likes, 98.6 degrees. >> so what we have here is the heat exchanger for digester no. 6. these clog up with debris and we're coming in to -- next wet weather season so we always come through here, clean them out, make sure that we get maximum heat exchange during the colder wet weather. sludge season. >> rubber glove. >> right here. >> rubber glove, excellent. all right, guys. >> thank you.

>> good luck. >> this is the full on hazmat. . >> residual liquid. we're taking it time to let it drain. we don't want to get sludge on it necessarily. take your time. stand on the side of it. . >> should we let it release for a while? . >> let it release. >> is that the technical term? . >> this is the most important bolt on the whole thing. this is the locking bolt. it locks this thing right in place. so now. >> take your hammer and what we want to do, we get rag build up right in here. the hot water recirculates right in here, the sludge

recirculates in here. the sludge sometimes has rags in it. all we want to do is go around the clean the rags. let me show you how. take the slide hammer, go all the way through the back, go around. >> got you. >> during the real rainy season, how does that change the way dealing with this job? is it a lot more stuff in there? . >> what we do, charles, we do this quarterly. every four months we go around and clean all the heat exchangers so we don't have a large build up. . >> go around? . >> yeah.