business association was part of the fact that in the past we had a chance to speak with them on the past, you know, ownership, which i'm part of, the past five and a half years. the reason i didn't add anymore is because i wanted to make sure that we could specifically speak to somebody through basically within that walking distance, our direct neighbors for the club. unfortunately, when i put the application in, i did it and at the same time was still in the process of trying to gather information who we should be directly speaking to. that's all the paperwork that says we did speak to the neighbors, the auto shops the marble place, the residents of

that area and we have listed through the help of one of our managers listed these people. and so i didn't have the opportunity to add any of them and i was hoping that by having the papers that that would show proof that we did speak to people for this particular application. commissioner meko: but the question on this application specifically asks whether you have met with any local neighborhood association concerning your proposed use of the premises. >> and my answer for that is -- i completely misunderstood. in my head association meant, you know, it didn't really dawn on me that i should specifically go to neighborhood group associations. i thought it would suffice that we would speak to individuals, neighborhood, businesses, and that's what i was very much concerned with. and as i put that on the application, i should have

double-checked and made sure that what i was saying that i understood the question. commissioner meko: yeah, i can't really tell you who you should have spoken to. but as i said you could have spoken to community action neighborhood. sompact. clen minute tina -- cle minute tina and that is part of the process. >> you have to speak into the other microphone. >> i'm the attorney for ms. diner and the proposed new ownership of the club. and if the commission feels that we should have more time to talk to these organizations we would be happy to do that. but i want to remind this commission that it's a club that's been operating under the past five years and there have been really no problems and the club goes back as commissioner

meko said and we are not looking to change the operation. we are looking to continue the club in the matter that it's been operated in the past. while we'd be happy to talk to those people, we're not actually proposing anything new. we are actually proposing to continue what's been going on. commissioner meko: yeah. i would have to add that i did read your application thoroughly and notice that you tend to emphasize the areas where you have little impact such as one sight faces the freeway, one side faces 6th street. but i might also remind you that in recent memory, this club was shutdown by the police department because of the impacts that the club, i guess, eight or nine years ago.

the inspector is agreeing about nine years ago because of tim packet that you were having on the immediate neighborhood which would tend to suggest that you should do more outreach. >> and that was under prior ownership and that was not when this diner was involved with the club. but again if the commission feels that we should do more outreach before the commission can issue a permit, be-we'll be happy to do that. president roja: since there is four of us, we have to have a unanimous vote. commissioner meko: i was hoping that you would ask for a continuum to allow yourself to rectify the errors that are on your application and perhaps do a little more outreach but it's totally your decision. >> absolutely. if this is what we need to do, that's what we need to do we want to be in full compliance

and do not want to be, you know, to appear as though we're trying to hide anything. personally, it's my full intention to be able to to take it to the next level and be better. and so if we need to do more outreach that's what we're going to have to do it's not a problem. commissioner meko: that would be a good, neighborly thing to do. president roja: and i'm sure maybe you can give ms. kane an e-mail of the list of organizations that you recommend they get in contact. commissioner meko: sure. president roja: i understand how you did do outreach and understood that was based on your attempts to put the word out to the community. so we could probably have this back by the next meeting, huh? yeah. ok. all right. so they have requested a continuum. do we have to take a roll on that? >> public comment? president roja: oh, yeah, i was

going to do that. ok. you can have a seat. we'll ask members of the public to respond. >> thank you. president roja: ok. public comment? >> my name is don garnner, i live at 281 clara which is right across the seat from the end up. in general the end-up has been a good neighbor. my worse complaint is occasional d.j.'s play their bass a little too loud around 2:00 a.m. this happened twice since i've lived there a year. so in general the end up is not a huge concern to me not as near as folsom which is generally obnoxious presence to the neighborhood. i just want to put it on the record what you think because the neighborhood is being redeveloped and as we go forward, what i'm most concerned about is that as the

buildings get put up that this sound is going to be redistricted in obnoxious ways. i can't hear the end up until i go to the street behind and on the back side i can hear the end up. and i just want you to be aware as you go forward and in talking to the planning commission that when new condos are put up, it would be nice if they did sound engineering so that bass doesn't come out in unexpected ways and that's my biggest concern. and i think system of you recognize that -- because there's nothing worse than being awakened at 3:00 by the thump, thump, thump that won't go away. but i do want to give the end up a lot of credit. they do -- in the year that i live there, they've done a nice

job. president roja: thank you. and we would require that they contain the noise within the confines of the property and that there will be a phone on record that they have to provide for the neighborhood so you can call in the event that you'd want them to turn it down or it's not working properly. >> it would be nice if you require the clubs to have an online website address with a contact number because the end up does not nor do other clubs and that would be nice if you can do an e-mail. this is a problem. president roja: ok. thank you, sir. any other members of the public that wish to comment? >> good evening, commissioners. good evening, jocelyn. my name is sidney loung, i'm

the current owner of the end up. i've been operating the end up for the past six years. for the last six years, i want to help change the image of the end up as a good neighbor and trying to reach out to them and try to really listen to them. and i know that when inez takes over from us, she's going to continue to do the same thing. and i just hope that the commission will understand that that's kind of our main main concern when we first took over six years ago. and i would urge the commission to approve the permits at the next meeting. thank you. president roja: thank you. any other members of the public? here we go. >> my name is debbie green. and i've worked at the end up since 1984, if you can believe it. i'm still standing.

i'm the bartender there. i've worked with ine zervings for five years and -- inez for the past five years. and for the past five years, she has maintained the end-up safe. she's a person of the upmose integrity. she is level-headed. i know she will respect the conditions, i'm very nervous, following the guideline to. she will continue to be resolute in her commitment that people drink responsibly. i've worked there for 26 years and at times we've faced very difficult periods of tensions that we have worked very hard to resolve. since inez and her partner have taken over the business, i have not heard of any complaints. the end-up is an institution in san francisco that i feel very lucky to have been a part of for such a long time. i hope that the commission

would take into consideration the desire for inez and i for transferring this license. thank you very much for the transfer of this license. president roja: any more comments? we have request of the applicant to have a continuance? do we have to make a roll -- >> i need a motion. commissioner meko: i so move. >> second. >> ok. now i can do that. may 10. president roja: ok. thank you for coming in and we'll see you in a couple of weeks and hopefully everything will work out. item d, daily crisp, 1655 market street.

billiard, amusement device. i understand we're going to continue this item? >> correct. we've been unable to resolve the issue with the planning department. so the applicant has requested an additional continuance? >> are i had a couple of questions -- i had a couple of questions if you don't mind. president roja: i do not. commissioner meko: this permit is covered in the police code? >> correct. commissioner meko: i couldn't find language in it but are there other permits that we're responsible for -- are there specific grounds under which we must issue the permit, the place of entertainment, extended hours and others are framed as we are to issue the permit if -- and then there are three or four criteria?

>> i can't answer that. but it is a question that's been posed to the city attorney along with what, in cases like this, when there is a code compliance issue with another department, then how do we proceed? may we proceed? is there some obligation to proceed. commissioner meko: the planning department, for the edification of the public, has stated that their recommendation is to disapprove based on the fact that someone installed vinyl windows on the premises three years ago. president roja: facing the street. commissioner meko: which is an administrative issue, not something that would go before another commission. in the past i've supported instances where the planning commission has had to make a

decision such as discretionary review or conditional use but in this case it is a staff member only who has recommended disapproval. now i was refering to the police code again going back to the language and the police code. generally these permits are deemed to have been approved afteme. and the city attorney has not been available to answer these questions. and i'm just wondering if that length of time is already past when this permit is deemed to have been approved. >> again, commissioner, i i don't know if it is deemed applicable. we know it is applicable to the extended hours. however, the questions you are asking are multiple and legal. so i just don't have the answers for you. but i did pose them to the city

attorney and in the meantime, i don't think that the applicant is unable to run his trade -- his business is not impacted and he is aware that we are, you know, holding it but hopefully for not longer. commissioner meko: there is a pattern here, let's be very blunt where he has been cited for not having permitted pool table and pin ball machines and that's what this is about. >> i think he was given simply a notice of violation. he was not cited. commissioner meko: by our department. >> correct. commissioner meko: and the planning department has discovered a structural complaint which we have never had to deal with, with another venue that has come before this

commission in our eight years. >> any -- is -- i don't really know how to respond to this. again, there should be any implication that anything's happening that isn't completely transparent. i am trying to resolve a legal question that i don't think that i can ignore. and that is simply what i'm trying to do. and none of it is being done without transparency and the knowledge of the applicant. commissioner meko: and let's by aware that if another shoe drops and there is another issue after this one is solved that we begin to see that is a pattern to try to make operating his business difficult seems to be developing because most recently, i can add to this the fact that the padlock to his door was glued last week. >> but the implication is not that the department has

something to do with it. commissioner meko: no, let's just understand that there is a pattern of complaints which are making it difficult for him to operate -- president roja: the only complaint from us is the fact that help accident comply with regulations to get a permit as far as the windows you have a good point if we can go ahead and grant the license for that. but it's not a structural thing. it's an aesthetic thing. and i've been through that process and it's a real simple one to rectfy. they're not big windows and you can get an overthe counter permit which is a one-stop shop. you put in a couple of wood windows and he's good to go. if that's a decision somebody has to make or the city attorney says he can go ahead without doing that, he has to say -- commissioner meko: right. and i asked an opinion from the city attorney as to whether we could conditionally grant this

program and then leave council member tatiana kostanian: the planning department to work out the issues of the windows and i have not gotten an answer yet. so we are delaying this process. president roja: i know of other instances like there is a building i believe a huge apartment building that was retro fitted on the corner of 6th and howard and they put in aluminum windows and they kept that thing vacant for years before they resolved that issue. so this is not something that they -- i mean, this is something they look into and do all the time when people don't comply with the wooden windows facing the street requirements in the city so for what that's worth. commissioner meko: right. i've watched plenty of building inspection meeting, going forever on vinyl windows. but in this case the applicant did not put in the vinyl windows. they were put in three years ago. president roja: right.

you inherit that. it's between him and the owner of the building but again, i have no problem in the future -- and if the city attorney says we can issue conditionally, it wouldn't bother me. and any -- let's see, do we need any more comments on the buck tavern? >> just one more request of the city attorney to rule whether we can conditionally grant this permit and get it off of our calendar. president roja: not to mention all the free advertising he's getting in the paper. all right. any public comment on the continuance of the mechanical device permit for the buck tavern? seeing none -- do have to do a roll on this too? make a motion to continue this -- someone want to make a motion to continue this please?

commissioner perez: i'd like to move to continue this application. president roja: ok. >> second. >> do i need to make a roll call? president roja: i don't think so. same call. president roja: all right. as i stated earlier, this is going to be the extent of the meeting tonight so i will now conclude the tuesday, april 26, meeting of the entertainment commission. thank you for coming.

when a resident of san francisco is looking for health care, you look in your neighborhood first. what is closest to you? if you come to a neighborhood health center or a clinic, you then have access it a system of care in the community health network. we are a system of care that was probably based on the family practice model, but it was really clear that there are special populations with special needs. the cole street clinic is a youth clinic in the heart of the haight ashbury and they target youth. tom woodell takes care of many of the central city residents and they have great expertise in providing services for many

of the homeless. potrero hill and southeast health centers are health centers in those particular communities that are family health centers, so they provide health care to patients across the age span. . >> many of our clients are working poor. they pay their taxes. they may run into a rough patch now and then and what we're able to provide is a bridge towards getting them back on their feet. the center averages about 14,000 visits a year in the health clinic alone. one of the areas that we specialize in is family medicine, but the additional focus of that is is to provide care to women and children. women find out they're pregnant, we talk to them about the importance of getting good prenatal care which takes many visits. we initially will see them for their full physical to determine their base line health, and then enroll them in

prenatal care which occurs over the next 9 months. group prenatal care is designed to give women the opportunity to bond during their pregnancy with other women that have similar due dates. our doctors here are family doctors. they are able to help these women deliver their babies at the hospital, at general hospital. we also have the wic program, which is a program that provides food vouchers for our families after they have their children, up to age 5 they are able to receive food vouchers to get milk and cereal for their children. >> it's for the city, not only our clinic, but the city. we have all our children in san francisco should have insurance now because if they are low income enough, they get medical. if they actually have a little more assets, a little more income, they can get happy family. we do have family who come

outside of our neighborhood to come on our clinic. one thing i learn from our clients, no matter how old they are, no matter how little english they know, they know how to get to chinatown, meaning they know how to get to our clinic. 85 percent of our staff is bilingual because we are serving many monolingual chinese patients. they can be child care providers so our clients can go out and work. >> we found more and more women of child bearing age come down with cancer and they have kids and the kids were having a horrible time and parents were having a horrible time. how do parents tell their kids they may not be here? what we do is provide a place and the material and support and then they figure out their

own truth, what it means to them. i see the behavior change in front of my eyes. maybe they have never been able to go out of boundaries, their lives have been so rigid to sort of expressing that makes tremendous changes. because we did what we did, it is now sort of a nationwide model. >> i think you would be surprised if you come to these clinics. many of them i think would be your neighbors if you knew that. often times we just don't discuss that. we treat husband and wife and they bring in their kids or we treat the grandparents and then the next generation. there are people who come in who need treatment for their heart disease or for their diabetes or their high blood pressure or their cholesterol or their hepatitis b. we actually provide group medical visits and group education classes and meeting

people who have similar chronic illnesses as you do really helps you understand that you are not alone in dealing with this. and it validates the experiences that you have and so you learn from each other. >> i think it's very important to try to be in tune with the needs of the community and a lot of our patients have -- a lot of our patients are actually immigrants who have a lot of competing priorities, family issues, child care issues, maybe not being able to find work or finding work and not being insured and health care sometimes isn't the top priority for them. we need to understand that so that we can help them take care of themselves physically and emotionally to deal with all these other things. they also have to be working through with people living longer and living with more chronic conditions i think we're going to see more patients coming through. >> starting next year, every

day 10,000 people will hit the age of 60 until 2020. . >> the needs of the patients that we see at kerr senior center often have to do with the consequences of long standing substance abuse and mental illness, linked to their chronic diseases. heart failure, hypertension, diabetes, cancer, stroke, those kinds of chronic illnesses. when you get them in your 30's and 40's and you have them into your aging process, you are not going to have a comfortable old age. you are also seeing in terms of epidemics, an increase in alzheimer's and it is going to increase as the population increases. there are quite a few seniors who have mental health problems but they are also, the majority

of seniors, who are hard-working, who had minimum wage jobs their whole lives, who paid social security. think about living on $889 a month in the city of san francisco needing to buy medication, one meal a day, hopefully, and health care. if we could provide health care early on we might prevent (inaudible) and people would be less likely to end up in the emergency room with a drastic outcome. we could actually provide prevention and health care to people who had no other way of getting health care, those without insurance, it might be without insurance, it might be more cost effecti [horns honking] [siren wails]