i just told them. what to do now? he come from the city, he talk me. [inaudible] my family and i got no money. a lot of people, a lot of homeless on site, a lot of crazy. [inaudible] >> and off the street, nobody come do nothing. [inaudible]

>> there has been only that taxi cab come from the outside. [inaudible] >> and the people outside, nobody come messing. >> are you finished, sir? >> huh? >> are you done? >> i have a question for you then. this is a difficult area. what do you sell in your store? >> i sell cigarettes. >> what else do you sell? do you sell alcohol? >> no, no.

it is smoke shop. >> smoke shop only? >> yeah. i am broke now. we ain't got no money. only $200 to $250 a day. what do you do for this? >> speak into the microphone, sir. >> you need to introduce yourself, sir. >> let me explain the question for him. >> may i just interrupt and i apologize for this but i'm very challenged. i don't think at least from my perspective it offers a real opportunity for me to understand your position. it would be really helpful from my perspective if you would allow a translator or if we need

to continue this hearing to offer you a translator. [inaudible] >> cowl you please -- -- could you please -- >> i can't understand. i apologize that i don't understand but i'm having a really hard time. >> he said two months ago and -- under 18 but she looked -- and it just was -- he didn't ask her for i.d. or anything and he sold it to her but at the same time he said -- he didn't sell to anybody before and he has been

in business doing this job for almost 17 years and this is his first time. so he asks for you guys to give him a chance because he didn't make no money actually in this place and he didn't sell much cigarettes at the same time for hardship he took construction. he mentioned that he lost $60,000. at the same time he is not even able to survive with the -- in payment and doesn't have enough money also to send for his family. so 25 days for him is too much. he would pay $300. -- for his violation. >> could you answer the question of what percentage of the

business is selling tobacco products that he would be disallowed from doing? whatever figure. annual. what percentage if you can give us some idea? [inaudible]

>> last year income 17,000 dollars in total, everything. >> percentage of revenues derived from sale of tobacco products? [inaudible] >> 25% or 50%? >> i make $200, $250 a day. >> how many tobacco? >> ok. >> sometimes --

>> 1%, 2%, 3%, 5%, i don't know. he can't tell exactly because mostly describe maybe, two, three cartons a day. he doesn't know exactly. maybe 2% or 3% of tobacco. >> thank you. the store closed right now because of construction? >> no, it is not closed. it is in operation. >> ok. thank you. i believe your time is expired. is that right? >> ok. thank you. [inaudible]

>> he didn't deny it. he was honestly mistaking because he thought the lady was old enough and he said he -- promises he is not going to be doing it again and make sure he asks for i.d. >> commissioners. i will -- reduce 25 days to 20 days. >> say that again? >> 25 days to 20 days.

>> thank you. >> ok. is there any public comment? is there any rebuttal? mr. aldohmi, anything more to say? explain -- you have to lean into the microphone if you do have something -- sir, sir, you should probably ask your interpreter to interpret what the department just said. the department just agreed to reduce from 25 days to 20 days. >> so you still have rebuttal

time if you want to use it. >> he said he can't afford that. he paid $300 to keep the business on. otherwise he is not going to be able to make it if he is closed 25 days or 20 days or even 10 days. he works on a daily basis to manage -- and tax and stuff like that. so it is still harsh for him to do that. >> [inaudible] a lot of -- from the outside. no problem. i do not have money from this -- and the people only crazy people.

>> last month -- >> this is on the overhead? >> yeah. >> this receipt from march and april. $oo, $100, $40, whatever he can afford to do. he said otherwise he will just close forever. thank you. >> ok. doctor, is there anything further? >> commissioners, tobacco sales

about -- i don't see how that will make a difference for just three weeks. thank you. >> but your offer to accept 20 days still holds or no? >> yes. >> ok. thank you. >> commissioners? >> the fact that the owner did not even look at or request an i.d. is a strike against and the 2% to 3% of sales to the extent that one can estimate them also suggests to me that the suspension of the recommended 20 days by the department would not result in -- would not be the cause for economic failure. for that reason i would move to

uphold -- would it be an upholding of the recommended, ok. so, overturning. >> grant the appeal. in accordance with the temperature dation over the -- recommendation of the department, 20 days. >> any further commissioner comments before we call the role? seeing none, call the role please. >> on that motion, commissioner hwang, grant to suspension from 25 to 20 days. commissioner fung:? president goh:. thank you. the vote is 4-0. the appeal is granted and it is changed to do days.

>> thank you. there is no further business. we're adjourned.

commissioner mirkarimi: good morning, i'm ross mirkarimi, joint joined me with me is super swriesor cohen, supervisor campos is absent away for business. we'll want to take a motion in a second to excuse his absence. i don't expect this to be a very long meeting as i am also concurrently sitting on the budget and finance committee which is meeting across the hall. i'm happy that we are able to deliberate on two important items. before we start, can i entertain a motion for the excuse of supervisor campos? motion. woid, so moved. madam clerk, good morning. please read item number one.

>> good morning. item one, resolution authorizing the department of emergency management as primary grantee and fiscal agent for the capital-bay planning area to retroactively accept and expend a fiscal year 2010 interoperable emergency communications program grant award in the amount of $1,227,632 from the united states department of homeland security, through the california emergency management agency, for the period of july 1, 2010, to march 31, 2013. >> very good. anybody like to present on this at all? please. >> good morning, supervisor. mary landers from the department of emergency management. this is a $1.2 million award, funded through the department of homeland security. through the state of california to the department of emergency management. and the department is acting as

the fiscal agent. and i would be happy to answer any questions you might have about it. commissioner mirkarimi: any questions? i had mine answered in meetings we already had. so thank you for that. i think it's very straightforward. just one -- on the 700 megahertz system, which agencies within san francisco will be utilizing that system? >> supervisor, to the best of my knowledge it's all the first responder agencies, fire, police, sheriff, department of public health. commissioner mirkarimi: this will also be a complement to the current 800 megahertz system they currently use as well too,? >> it will, supervisor. commissioner mirkarimi: i'm curious, what does that look like practically speaking? they have two systems they are carrying with them in the event of an emergency? in other words, for simplistic reasons, two walkie-talkies? >> i don't believe so,

supervisor. michelle from the department could speak more technically than i can. but i don't think so. i think they work in conjunction with each other. commissioner mirkarimi: just want to make sure that we have a more pictorial idea of what this looks like so we are not weighing down people just how feasible this is. >> good morning, michelle with the department of emergency management. with the 700 megahertz voice communication systems, the goal will be to have all radio capable of both operation on the 800 megahertz existing system, as well as the new 700 megahertz system. as we start rolling out the 700 megahertz brond band system, we'll look at a separate device initially, and as industry moves forward to developing one twice that involves both the data and voice from the same system, then we'll look to procure those devices. >> the idea to actually more of both into one -- morph both into

one single device. >> that is correct. we are hoping industry moves in that direction and we are giving a lot of feedback to industry. our need for public safety. commissioner mirkarimi: how does this benefit on talking to other jurisdictions? >> the goal would be that all jurisdictions would have the same technology platform as well as the same frequency band so that a device from one manufacturer for example san francisco would be compatible with the system and infrastructure in another jurisdiction, neighboring jurisdiction. commissioner mirkarimi: before when we were all deliberating on this in my office, does this cost cover our needs? or are we eventually going to have to complement -- supplement the cost to make sure we'll be able to cover? >> in future, in subsequent fiscal years, we'll look to identify additional costs,

additional budgets so we are able to procure the new -- we will look to develop a budget that will allow us to purchase the new equipment. so in subsequent fiscal years we'll look to dedicate funds for that need. commissioner mirkarimi: very good. any -- thanks. any public comments? thank you. i don't have any more questions. any public comments? seeing none, public comment is closed. may we take this? motion to approve with recommendation. so moved. very good. madam clerk, item number two, please. >> item two, resolution aproving the joint powers agreement establishing the bay area regional interoperable communication systems authority and authorizing payment of membership fees commissioner mirkarimi: director, welcome. >> thank you very much. anne, executive director of department of emergency management.

and captain daniel mahoney, who has been our police counterpart on this project. it's a pleasure to be before you today and it's very nice that the item you just heard actually moifs very well into this -- morphs very well into this item. the 700 megahertz we were just talking about to really create this regional interoperability program, we have funding for bariks. which is the bay area regional interoperable communication system. it's a regional voice and data communication netanyahuwork. the project started in 2011 when the mayors of oakland, san jose, and san francisco got together and said this was something needed to the region. there was government money through the ara funding. it was called betop, and

motorola applied for that funding on behalf of the region. with $50.2 million, i believe, and they put in $22 million match. so motorola received -- has about $75 million in the project. we have been working very hard with all of our regional partners to come up with a j.p.a. because we really need to have a governing body for this regional project. and since i have been at department of emergency management in january, it's been my number one priority to go through these negotiations and make sure we had a j.p.a. very happy to present it to you today. i know that captain mahoney could answer any specific questions and also michelle who was just up here from my staff is really our technical expert on the project. happy to answer questions. think -- i think that the benefits to san francisco not just the region are tremendous

and will allow us to talk back and forth in our public safety agencies to be able to share data, things like if you are at the site of a fire to be able to pull up the building blueprints and be able to send that to know exactly where the firefighters are going in the building. things like that that at this point are not available. commissioner mirkarimi: very good. captain mahoney, welcome. would you like to add anything to it? >> no. just what we talked about i know in the past, the j.p.a. is structured so that there are 19 separate seats on this j.p.a. it takes 10 cities or counties, whichever, to decide on the j.p.a. for it to be functional. there are a number of decisions that need to be made at the first meeting of the j.p.a. directors. such as who will be secretary, who will be the fiscal agent. who will be attorney staff for review and all that. it's an excellent opportunity

for san francisco to be -- get in on the first steps of this and maybe make some of those decisions. and possibly get some of the funding for those positions to the city and county if we decide to be the fiscal agent. since we have two seats there, the recommendation that i have is that we move cautiously but quickly in getting on to this j.p.a. >> i -- commissioner mirkarimi: i would agree, so far to date it's been our role in the area, through the grants we have been the ones assigned to farm out those particular grants to other jurisdictions, isn't that correct? >> that's correct, supervisor. san francisco has been the fiscal agent for the region since the inception of the grants. commissioner mirkarimi: why wouldn't just be it a natural assumption we would retain that sort of leadership role as we set way into this agreement? >> that's a very good question. i spent my afternoon yesterday with the uwasi approval

authority, we are putting together our next m.o.u., and san francisco will continue to being the fiscal agent the next three years at least for those grants. but believe me there was a lot of discussion amongst the group. they see other counties see the possibility of additional funding if they became the fiscal agent, but clearly from our perspective, san francisco should continue in that role. these are homeland security terrorism grants, and san francisco obviously would be the area if a terrorist came to the bay area, probably we would be the target. so it makes sense we also have the infrastructure to be able to support the processing of the grants. it's a lot of money. so my sense is that, yes, we will continue to be in that role. commissioner mirkarimi: just for the general public's edification, they might catch

this hearing, in the middle of the night, when they have insomnia or something, and they decide to watch this, why don't you explain quickly what this significance of moving to a j.p.a. does for san francisco to maintain that role versus if we were not on it. what sort of is the intensic benefit for us to move into this kind of collaborative body? >> if we were not part of the joint powers agreement as captain mahoney just said, we would have no say in the makeup of what that looked like. we would have no opportunity for input into what the regional interop prohibit -- interop prohibit structure, how things were structured. it's important that san francisco play this role. i believe that in the pay area we really are the center focus and public safety response is so important. if you think about a major

emergency occurring, be it a natural or man-made, in san francisco, we want to make sure that we can talk to our regional partners who come in to support us. we want to make sure that we have that capability. and through this j.p.a., it sets up the governance structure so that we will be able to do that. commissioner mirkarimi: it's not a question of if but when? >> that's correct. commissioner mirkarimi: we want to prepare accordingly. >> the other thing, i'm sorry i failed to mention, is that there is also a second component of this which not just public safety users but also there will be a dedicated broadband network for the -- what they are calling underserved areas, anchor institutions like libraries, churches, schools. we'll be able to have access to the internet as well. that's the second component of this. commissioner mirkarimi: what do

we expect after this? once the creation s. there any other kind of process -- creation, is there any other kind of processing to help further along -- >> we have already been working on boon negotiations which is build, operate, own, and maintain -- boom negotiations. commissioner mirkarimi: the federal government is into acronyms. >> it's true. but until the j.p.a. is up and operational, we can't negotiate with motorola. we are trying to set the framework right now, but motorola as a private -- is part of private industry, we want to make sure that we get the best deal for what they are going to be able to provide us. and through the boom we will be able to negotiate and i believe really be able to provide the best services for san francisco. one of the questions you asked miss gettis while she was up

here about what's next in terms of hardware that's coming up and whether or not there was any money for it. i do believe since this is a priority of president obama that there will be additional money coming down the line over the next two, three, five years. i have very good news to report. we just heard yesterday that the 2011 grant application for uwasi which we were anticipating would be between an 18% and 20% cut, that san francisco was held harmless. so we are going to be getting the 2010 grant award. so that was a huge victory for us. commissioner mirkarimi: that is great. good. we have been having some decent budget news lately. >> we also -- this isn't the last time you'll see us. we'll be coming back to the board as we look at sites for our cell towers, etc. we'll be coming to you for that approval. if we are purchasing further equipment, you will be hearing about that. so this is just the first step. th