to hear about el rincon any longer. president newlin: the bottom line is the permit is no longer in existence. they cannot travel to another location. and the permit does not transfer to a new applicant. they need to surrender the permit to our staff. >> i was not contacted by the committee -- permitee. i am not sure how i could chase them down to get it in my hands. i did try. but it is no longer valid in any other location. and it may be that the police department has maybe gotten their hands on the liquor license. i am not sure. we could ask. in addition, we issued a

director's order revising the security plan at missed like the club -- at mist nightclub. there were seven separate instances in or around club mist that resulted in police reports. there was a meeting to discuss reports about breaches in security that were indicated in the reports that we were getting. based on that meeting, additional conditions were imposed on mist's permit via the security plan. to this point, i think we are doing much better over there. i do not have any indication that they are not following their new restriction. lastly, there was a director's order revising the security plan issued to 550 barnveld, related

to an incident that happened on march 25 where police reported a weapon being fired inside the night club from the stage. a shell casing was found inside, although no one was reported wounded. again, staff and they the station -- and bayview station met with the owner and manager to discuss the breach and how conditions in their security plan would close that breach. there have not been any further instances at all. we are hopeful that was an effective treatment of the problem. vice chair joseph: i have just a couple of things, questions. on the promoters permit -- would organizations like pride and

folsom street fair have to apply? >> i will have to look. it is possible they would have to register. again, this is not a permit. this is simply a registration. it will take all of 10 minutes. you go on-line, and it is free. vice chair joseph: when did you say that might be working? >> mid-june. vice chair joseph: also come up with 550 barneveld, is the manager of the club on the permit? >> she is not. vice chair joseph: don't we need to have somebody who is on the permit there when they are open? >> i do not believe that is something that is a requirement in the law. it is a practice that i encourage. the permit has names of individuals who are present. but that isn't all the kermit --

but that is an old permit, issued before the entertainment commission. it is possible to ask someone, but that is not how it is now. vice chair joseph: in keeping with that, 550 usually does pat downs. how did a gun get there? >> i cannot be certain. but after discussion, and given all the information, we got the sense that this was part of the promoter's group of -- part of the performer's guests, and may not have been put through rigorous security. vice chair joseph: so all of the performers and people who come along are now going to be -- >> absolutely. vice chair joseph: last but not least, in the spirit of self congratulations, i would like to

congratulate commissioners perez and meko on a really great event. you did a great job, and you are not even in the event business. [laughter] >> thank you. good night. commissioner meko: regarding mist and barneveld, can you show us the security requirements? >> i apologize for not bringing those files with me. we did those a month ago. i am nervous to do it by memory. they are different. they are different on purpose. when we do these, we try to sit down and make sure that our conditions that are relevant to the breach that we are having. commissioner meko: i understand

that, and i think that is a good idea for the commission as well to craft conditions particular to the venue with an establishing broad, sweeping conditions that really do not apply to what they deal with. but if you could forward those. >> i am happy to send you the specifics, and also, in general, what they do is bring the ratio of security to, basically, one to 100, or 180, or 150. in specifically 550, we did language around making sure that every single person that is going into the venue or leaves and comes back in goes through security. commissioner meko: better lighting, our cameras? >> sometimes cameras. commissioner meko: four years

ago, it seemed this commission had reached a point where we had normal conditions that we could possibly apply. >> you can preconditions. -- tweak conditions. i am happy to send you the conditions on both of those. >> i have it here, thanks to technology. >> you have it in your blackberry. >> currently, we have one of them right here, which is mist. some of the conditions that we would cease at 1:15 a.m., that there would always be a manager on premise, that the southern station officer would get a calendar every three weeks of

events, that their security staff ratio would be adjusted. it is one to every 40 patrons. there would be security staff on duty during all hours of operation. obviously, all security will be over 21. and all security will wear distinctive clothing. for mist, that is most of the conditions that were set. >> i can explain, if you want. you can stop us. commissioner meko: you are right. >> we wrangled a round at the meeting on the issue of closure.

we are not in the habit of producing hours of operation of businesses. again, this is the entertainment piece, not asking them to close the business. it is asking them to and their entertainment earlier than they were doing. -- to end their entertainment earlier than they were doing. that was relevant to seven incidents that happened in three months. there were a tremendous amount of problems releasing patrons and having fights started inside, in the doorway, or right outside. we felt that an answer to that was slower release. that meant helping them to do a cool down, if that makes any sense. so we are not asking them to close the business any earlier. it has nothing to do with

serving alcohol. it has to do with ending the b.j. -- the d.j. that's the entertainment. that is what we do. there is an appeal available on these orders. but that is what we came up with together, as a group. they certainly have a right to due process and to appeal. commissioner meko: the appeal would be to us? >> correct. are there any other questions on my portion, or can i handed over? -- hand it over? >> my report, which have in front of you, i will go over the first segment. we did have to deal recently on the citation was given to circlo. that appeal has happened.

we are currently waiting for the decision. in my opinion, i thought it went well. it was very simple. we will hopefully know by the end of this week what the decision on that appeal was. we have been in contact with citizens -- with the city of honolulu. they are looking at how to work with and use -- with venues with entertainment, and better control of sound. this is something new. we have done this for seattle. now we are doing this for honolulu as well. it is exciting that this is the second city that has come to us and asked for information. we are sharing legislation and our own documents about the process. we have been really pushing through as many as sound

examinations as possible. we had a backlog of applicants. we have been working through, but it is taking a while. we are finally to a place where most of these venues have moved through the sign-offs' from city agencies. we are one of the last. we are having some come up and are really working. also, you will see non-permitted events and the news. -- and venues. as i see in your report, due to better communication with sfpd and residents around the certain -- these certain venues and events, and people finding things online and forwarding it to us anonymously, we have come across more non-permitted events.

the question people have been asking me is are there more happening, or are we just aware of them? to be honest, this is new territory. it has not been tracked in the past. we do not have the raw data to say last year we had this many and this year we have this money. i do know that because of the items i just stated that we are coming across them more regularly, which is good. we are also working with fire and the fire marshals to get inspectors out in the field even more to look at these venues, working with sfpd. i think we are able to track some of these places down. most of them are bars. we helped bring them into compliance. that is important. cinco de mayo was surprisingly

not busy. i was in the mission, and by 11:30, midnight, large sections were a ghost town. there were certain sections of the city, valencia and 16th, that looked like a normal thursday night. there were certain events around the city that were very busy. but overall the city was pretty quiet this year. same with howard street fair. this is an event that has gone on for years. it is well organized. there is rarely any problem. this year was a typical year. it was a very well put together event. there was one are to sound complaints that were dealt with immediately, on the spot. we had them turn the sound down. the attendance fee was lower.

there is not a reason for that. but talking with officers on site, it was a good-sized crowd this year, but definitely smaller than it has been in the past. some of the venues we are looking into currently -- lime, the room, circlo, 1121 howard street -- some are non-permitted events. you will see notices of violation. you will see an attractive citations, when given in the last two -- you will see administrative citations, one given in the last two weeks. this is divided into quality of life, basic incidents, and violence.

most of these, i know officer matthias from central has spoken on. there was an incident on broadway, security having trouble with a patron. they brought the patron outside. officers got involved when the patron was turning violent. unfortunately, an officer was a salted. the officer was not hurt badly and the patron was brought into custody. there were a few other batteries in the broadway area. but overall we are not seeing anything major or out of the ordinary for this time of year. one issue is that over the weekend we had an incident. we are still waiting for the report. we have yet to get it. i was working that evening and responded to the scene. what it looks like is that we had a shot fired.

it is possible at this point that the shot fired was actually budue to an altercation in front of the venue. i will report on this incident once we have a full report and the investigation from sfpd, and we are able to do a little more digging on our own. that is what i have. vice chair joseph: the karaoke at 870 caravel -- taravel is what cross street? >> i would not be able to tell you. vice chair joseph: is that the place we permitted price that was problematic? >> i believe so. we did not permit twice. we permitted once. vice chair joseph: we turned it down once and then permitted another time.

so we do not know if this is 14th avenue or 19th avenue, or where it is? >> i think it is 19th. vice chair joseph: so this is the same place where there were bringing alcohol in and had all the violence. >> his current violation is for being open after hours. vice chair joseph: i just request that you monitor the place. >> we are absolutely monitoring them, and also working with sfpd. vice chair joseph: on the violence, the battery at the lookout, that is unusual. do you know anything about that? >> it was unusual. this is not a place with any history of violence or incidents in the past. we do have some sound complaints from residents in the area, which we are currently working with management and ownership of

the club on. this particular incident happened with an overly intoxicated patron, who was actually not from the lookout originally. it is believed he had come through one of the other venues in the area. it was early in the day. this particular patron walked out onto the balcony around the lookout and thought it was the bathroom. vice chair joseph: ok. [laughter] >> and some of the people on the lower st. level who suffered some collateral damage decided to take matters into their own hands. vice chair joseph: 0 my. you call that a battery? >> it resulted in a physical altercation. a big fight, actually. vice chair joseph: i can't

imagine i even asked that question. explain to me. circlo got a citation the appeal? did they appeal to? >> to the controller. vice chair joseph: the appeal of the fine, not the circumstances? >> the appeal of the citation and their version of the circumstances. vice chair joseph: until the controller's office determines the appeal -- that is very interesting. finally, this is the most interesting spelling of cinco i've ever seen. it is like some kind of insect. i just wanted to know that. commissioner benetti: regarding the battery at temple -- did that occur outside the club?

>> at this point, the report we have is a little thin. i am having to get a clear report, because we have questions ourselves. from what we understand, it's started inside and then it happened outside. i apologize for not having more details at this time. i believe the argument started inside and both parties reconnected outside. president newlin: any other questions? commissioner meko: regarding the sound test that you're finding in little bit of time to get to, the venue on 11th street, the beat box -- have begun around to that yet? >> we have not. we have done bond calls and e- mails back and forth. they are not quite ready.

i think there is still some build-out going on. they are not open. they are not doing any kind of event. commissioner meko: there is a conditional grant that is pending other sign-offs' plus yours. >> correct. commissioner meko: a couple locations on your report jump out of me. 3260 517th -- 3265 17th street, you are looking into sound violations. >> that is a small part collective that why -- small art collective that likes to do events. they will bring in deejays. when i talked to the owners, or

i guess residents of this particular warehouse, they voluntarily shut down that night. it is about a 20,000 square foot space and had between 204 hundred people in the location. -- a and between 200-- between 200 and 400 people. commissioner meko: without a permit. that is dangerous. and it is an art club that operates as a nightclub? >> with the jays. -- deejays. commissioner meko: is that the same thing happening on 1121 howard st.? >> it is slightly different. it is a location that has been there for a long time. excuse my confusion. i am not sure how to describe it. it began as a holistic healing

through sound. i am not sure how well to describe that. it uses sound waves to promote wellness. i do not make this stuff up. commissioner meko: what are they doing now? >> they are continuing to do that, but they are also paying their rent by doing after hours deejays. commissioner meko: i see. with the crowd of hundreds. >> this particular event i encountered this last weekend, it was probably about 120. in that particular event, seven station was called in. commissioner meko: that is a good-sized therapy group. and dear old kimo's -- how did

that show up on your watch us? -- watch list? >> it is very rare we have problems with them. commissioner meko: it is warm and fuzzy. it goes back to the 50's. >> it is predominantly live music, exclusively live music on the second floor. we have permitted them for a long time. we have done some tests. -- sound tests. we had a neighbor complaint two years ago, which we were able to resolve. this is just a new neighbor complaint. it is relatively new. it is not incredibly dramatic. no one is jumping up and down and screaming. on at nicer nights or busier nights, they open a door.

this is one of those issues so that the commissioners have that option. but it is an incredible venue. commissioner meko: one final question about non-permitted venues. i am more interested in these underground entertainment events, or illegal-type parties that seemed to crop up every now and then. i have been getting a series of phone calls about a location at ninth and folsom. medici restaurant was a permited restaurant. >> the history of medici is that it was a restaurant.

the location has had many incarnations. commissioner meko: going back to a cafe which was permitted. >> medici was a restaurant. it applied for a permit. but it never finished its permitting process. commissioner meko: i see. and they closed down about a year ago. >> the restaurant seemed to close down to a point where it was (rarely. -- open very rarely. commissioner meko: and now it is a location for spontaneous parties. one last wednesday involve violence with the residents across the street. >> you brought that to my attention. at this time, i still do not have any paper from southern station. i am waiting on that.

they have been doing these kind of events on the past, both southern station and the sfpd. we all know about it. to be honest, it is just catching them. commissioner meko: this probably is more relevant to the sfpd and fire marshal and it is to you. >> correct. commissioner meko: you do not have the tools to deal with them. >> correct. in the past, i will make a call to dispatch. commissioner meko: hanks. -- thanks. president newlin: public comment on the executive director's report. seeing none, will move to item four, police department comments and questions.

>> good evening. i am steve matthias from central station. cinco de mayo was a good night in central. everything was pretty manageable. we had a few good events, but they all went well. we had no incidents or violence that i have come across at all. one of the establishments, club atmosphere, we learned there were having a live performance by a popular entertainer. we voiced are there -- we voice our concerns about overcrowding and making sure they could handle the line outside, and what their staffing levels were going to be like. mr. montoya said they were going to add security there. he completely took care of it. we had no incidents at the club. as far as the central district