therefore, would not be legislan adopted by the voters in the 1990's, one extending rent control to 24 unit buildings and reducing the kappa on the permissible rent increases. those are both placed on the ballot and will not be impacted. then there was a proposition j from 2008 creating a historic preservation commission that was a charter amendment. i also got questions about the other proposition j from the 1970's relating to contract in out of city workers. it was untouched by this. i have offered to that amendment. because this is a charter amendment, every amendment automatically requires a continuance.

therefore, i will request that the committee continued it for two weeks. that is my request. >> this is a significant amendment. it will require continuance? >> any amendments to any proposed charter, a substantive vs. non substantive does not come into play. supervisor kim: we will open up for public comment first on this item. please come up. two minutes. >> i am speaking on behalf of the 1986 proposition m. you are wrong about it. it got on the ballot in two ways. he got lots of signatures and there is a weird notice that was corrected before supervisors put

it on the ballot. this makes it vulnerable and i want to say that on the record because it cannot be repealed. but it can. the second one you did not say because it was put on by the board of supervisors was the shadow impact. when these measures have been extraordinarily controversial since before you were born. the first land-use amendment of was involved in was 1971. there were landy's measures put on the ballot in 71, 72, 76, 79, the three, 86. the amount of energy that the public has put into these issues which were always fourth on the ballots was immense.

there is lots of money on development issues, and there is lots of money historic plea that goes into politics and campaigns. people had used the initiative to force a consideration of issues that were not going to get through the board of supervisors because there was too much political and financial power on the other side. people go out on the streets in get signatures. we got all the signatures. [chime] prop m is vulnerable. i object. supervisor kim: could we get clarification on that for the next hearing? supervisor wiener: we were informed was placed on ballots by initiative.

i am not disputing you, i have just indicated why made that statement at the beginning. we will, of course look into that. as of 1971, i was alive. an older than you might think. >> members of the rules committee, my name is larry griffin and i want to thank you for taking a moment for the firefighters that we lost today. my bleeding heart is today for that. i am on furlough time. i am here as the political action share in the at large chapter chair for local 21. they showed up at the last rules

committee meeting of reporting -- opposing supervisor wiener's charter amendment. let to express some of our concerns and listen to what the supervisor has to say. live for talking with you on that. >> thank you for being here. >> i am one of the idiots that reads these things verbatim to understand what the wording is and as a result, what the potentials are. i look forward to looking at your changes, and i want to and knowledge that you did respond to the multiple people that came and said they were very concerned about the initiative coming under this because the bottom line is, the age of reason was a book by al gore and he talked about why people don't

involve themselves in government anymore. we have turned our government over to a bunch of bureaucrats that run it. and the public feeling that they don't have any serious chance for employed. i want to abolish the fact that the voter initiative i think are the one way that we have of coming forward in dealing with issues that might be before the board of supervisors but either do not get the support necessary to become an initiative or might have outright opposition to it and not allowed to get on to the ballot. if it gets to that point and people are willing to take their time and energy and effort to coordinate getting all the signatures and getting it on the ballot, it should be something that should be respected without any doubt. there can be legal challenges, that is the way the government

works. i think elected officials at all levels of responsibility to ensure that when the voters speak and they speak and that effective way, thousands of signatures, which be given the greatest amount of difference. i appreciate that. supervisor kim: think you. -- thank you. >> i am happy to hear about your amendment. it demolishes about half of my objections, a police. -- at least. [laughter] not being a lawyer, it struck me that this does not sound legal. i see the city attorney who approved your initial charter

amendment, so maybe they are just creating future work for themselves when it is contested by other lawyers. there is a letter that apparently you all got from attorney stamp to may 18. she said she had delivered it to the supervisors. she states pretty firmly that your charter amendment violates both the united states constitution and the california constitution. she only cited one case, a napa county case. but there is pretty strong language in here. she even says it is illegal for an elected representative to propose something like this. it is a matter of ethics. i am happy to hear your amendment and maybe she will

soften up your criticism. >> she said anyone the votes for it could be removed from office and i found it an extraordinary statement to make. >> i just saw this letter today. it has been circulating. subject to discipline, they are willful -- they are able to be removed for willful misconduct. supervisor kim: think you for our -- for your concern for our jobs. >> the afternoon, supervisors. in regards to supervisor wiener's legislation, thank you for amending it. we have a few comments. this is about limiting the

duration of the measures, and i don't believe it is cool because of what happened there is even though i have got an e- mail from supervisors, 20 states have already adopted this kind of legislation that they could amend. policy declarations and ordinances. there are 50 states, it is still not the majority. i did not think limiting the duration of measures is a good ibm. the other point is, i think we should know exactly which measures might get affected. i went to the board of supervisors website and i did a bunch of crunching. with all the different highlight colors, these are the policy declarations and ordnances passed by supervisors or the

board or the mayor. started adding up a few of these things. there are over a hundred of these second affected. no one really knows which ones are going to get affected as a as part of the nervousness that is going around. i think we should get that squared away. and the part about the voter initiatives. thank you very much. supervisor wiener: if i could respond, in terms of the 20 states, that allow their legislatures to amend or repeal under certain circumstances, there are 21 states that have voters adopted legislation. it is 20 out of 21. how what is california. i received a number of e-mail about this claiming that this

would limit the duration of the voter adopted ordinances as if they would automatically expire at that is not accurate. they would go on forever until something is done either by the voters or by the board. i can only speak for myself. any elected official would probably be very cautious about making changes to voter adopted measures. i understand your concern about that, but just wanted to put that out there. >> it applies to section c as well. >> id doesn't automatically expire. >> chair, supervisors, good afternoon.

thank you so much for amending to remove section b. however, once again, it appears that even though there are now out itemized ordnances had 39 declarations of policy that could be affected from the department of elections, we still don't know how many of these have gone back to the voters to of the amended or repealed. until such time or until the next hearing, because this is continued, i would like to have those hard numbers before us has the how many of the 65 ordnances past have been amended or repealed by voters and how this'll a -- and how this would fall under good government.

and the large numbers of measures on the ballot. >> the afternoon, i am with the community association, the president. thank you for removing that section. oftentimes, where are very hyperactive in the planning department issues. but don't always like what the planning department does, but one of the things that they recently started doing was to have meetings with the director and the staff to explain some of the major changes that they are proposing. and this appears to be very major.

not many people and the public understand enough about this, what you're proposing. i suggest you hold several meetings, several dates in to meet with the public to discuss questions and answers -- take questions and provide answers. explain to us what kind of impact this will have for the voters. from what i understand, there was some time where the board of supervisors and overturn, and then any ordinance, right? but those initiated by the board or the mayor.

i am asking you please to hold meetings and explain to the public your ordinance. supervisor wiener: this is the second, we will have a third hearing. i have made a practice of responding, i believe, to every e-mail i received hot topic. i will continue to do that. i look forward to the hearing which is how we meet about these things to flesh it out. and if it does make the ballot, i am sure there will be an enormous number of meetings in turn -- in terms of opponents and proponents. supervisor kim: any other public comment at this time? public comment is closed.

colleagues, and any comments or questions? we will be adopting the amendment with the position and continuing this item to thursday, june 16. thanks to all the members of the public for being here today. are there any other -- is there anything else on the agenda? thank you, meeting adjourned myriad ahoy the biggest issue

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off electronic devices. the first item on the agenda is roll call. president hechanov commissioner murphy? >> here. commissioner walker? >> here. the next item on the agenda. president's announcements. commissioner lee: there is no president's announcements today. >> an update on dbi. >> good morning, commissioners. good morning, vice president mar and commissioners. today we have a brief item. as requested last month by president hechanova, we're here to provide you a tentative timetable for the plan.

we will adjust it as needed. our primary focus right now is on our human resources. that is our dbi staff preparation, education, and training. the goal is to ensure the health and safety of our staff at work and ensure our ability to perform are a disaster response duties effectively integrated with other departments. i have the initial work plan that we have drafted. i put some time lines on that. i could go through that for you, or if you want to pick out anything that you notice, we can discuss that as well. we have tried to be realistic and reasonable in the timeframe given the amount of projects and objectives that we have ahead of us. through the prioritization process, we have made some good improvements in the last 60 days. any questions?

commissioner murphy: the disaster service -- what does that consist of -- what does the training consist of? >> all city workers are disaster service workers and would be required to respond eye anin an emergency or disast. it involves going over the charter that requires that as well as some personal prepared this information. through the department of emergency management and human resources, there's a video. it is essentially a protocol of what your responsibilities would be in the event of an emergency or disaster. commissioner murphy: a refresher course? >> yes, very much so. that is part of the charter. depending on when the event

happens, in terms of what actions you would take, the protocol, to call, and where to go. commissioner murphy: does it mean all employees of dbi would have to report somewhere? >> yes, with all departments, it staff would be designated as more essential personnel for pre-designated assignments. everybody will have a barrel and an assignment. commissioner lee: has there been a discussion about public information about these trainings or anything like that? when will we roll out public information? >> you mean in terms of public outrage? commissioner lee: right. >> we plan on doing more of that throughout the year as we would get our program further along. i think the department of

emergency management is coordinating a lot of when we do any kind of public outrage. we will provide handouts and some information. at this point, we are more focused on our own staff and our own response requirements under the strategic plan with public works. commissioner lee: for our information, where does this is centraessential staff need? >> 1616 mission street. we have our timetable. training is one of the primary focus is. we are, again, planning on regular meetings with the work groups and other city departments on a regular basis. i know different departments share in some tabletop exercises dealing with planning for all types of events, whether it is a planned event, such as someone

coming or arriving, or an unplanned event, whether it is simple or complex. in general, we try to be pretty aggressive on the sidelines. i do want to show some productivity and some accomplishments over the period of time. a lot of the information is in the process of being renewed and written in terms of the plans and protocols. that is really motivated by total coordination from all the city departments. commissioner lee: thank you. commissioners, any other questions? commissioner walker: great. commissioner lee: thank you. >> thank you. >> is there any public comment? item three. the next item on the agenda, item four, public comment. >> good morning, commissioners.

i'm a 30-year resident of san francisco. i would like to read a prepared statement. with the one interruption. i would like to begin by thanking president hechanova for stopping by the department, meeting some of the staff, and i've had the distinct pleasure of seeing commissioner walker and commissioner murphy. i first came before you two months ago and made two increase. one regarding an additional deputy director and how a additional deputy director was created. the other inquiry was a request to know have no homhow many directives have been issued. i appeared one month ago to hear the result of those inquiries. nothing had been done. i used to the director of malfeasance for failure to provide written directive to

staff. the director is not pulling the functions required by her position. i'm here today to first ask about my initial inquiries two months ago. do you have any results? vice president mar? vice president mar: do you want to finish reading. >> i have a question. maybe you have addressed some of these items. ok, i will proceed. of course, i would be curious to know why there is no response. topic eight is rega -- topic a is regarding miss levin 's appointment. she illegally obtained her office in violation. additionally, i reviewed the

minutes of the commission meeting on december 16, 2009. the minutes state that the commissioners all agreed to make appointment for a deputy director of administration. the language states that subject to the approval of the commission in the budgetary and fiscal conditions of the charter, the director shall have the power to appoint or removed at his or her pleasure of 21 deputy superintendent and no more than two assistants. you have a legally appointed mr. levis. levin. quite frankly, the department does not need a deputy director for administration. the director is in charge of administration and should not need another deputy director on top of the other three that are provided. additional requests as to why the specific language of proposition g was not