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ways placed in a work assignment under him and while i was on that assignment, another individual told me to leave san francisco and threatened my family. that individual spent a lot of time in martin's office. so given the big picture and all of the other facts, i assumed that he was in the witness protection program and that person who threatened my family told me to leave was a san francisco -- no, a cop, law enforcement official. now i'm here to say there are other people like mr. x out there who can provide me with information. and it seems i'm going to be forced to contact him and press them for information. and telling me to go to hell ill not be an option for them. and going to the police will not be an option for them either. so i just want to make that clear that, that's something down the road.
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i need to come before this commission one more time next week. there's an issue in this -- >> your time is up. thank you. >> ok. >> next speaker. >> good evening, president mazzucco, and fellow commissioners. i'm here because there's a town hall meeting going on this evening in another venue and i'm here because there are some issues. i watch this meeting every week and i -- as i said, i really congratulate angela chance for all of the work -- effort she did to keep all of the facts out there. i hope you looked up the issue about that taser in marin county and how we lost $1.9 million because of the deputy sheriff's mistake vorlings of procedures. anyway, a couple of issues. one, i really hate to see james
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warner's name being besmirched and slandered in public. have you ever met her, she's one of the most wonderful people in the world, she was unfortunately, she's gone. and all of the pressure and stuff may have helped cause -- >> quiet, quiet. you're going have to leave, clyde. you have to be quy the. >> barry, go ahead. >> they even named a plaza after her, the castro, and think think if you ever met her, she was good to her community and she was great in her relationship with the businesses in those communities and she cared about the people that she interacted with. not a lot of officers like that in their department, although officer lombardi who rides the bicycle, she's like that. you give her a prize for being nice to people. unfortunately, not a lot of officers are that way but she's
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great. like officer mathias, permanent oiv in the north beach area. he's great, too, because they care about people and care about hearing what the concerns are. so a segue to that, i'm not going to go into the ramifications about the videos that public defender doshi presented. i'm a little alarmed by the talk show presentations that were made when he spoke there at two talk shows. i'm a little concerned, and i hope that chief sir will take this interest that if they are -- were poor behavior or violated the law, he would take swift action. i hope he would follow his word on that. at least explain his actions, at least. last but not least, they switched a lot of the taxi enforcement under the m.t.a., under deputy chief murphy. and he is not going forth trite let it publicly known what exactly was going on. they give the facts and figures
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to the staff at the m.t.a. and have them all sit down and figure out statistics. so i ask that lieutenant la carlo or sergeant that works with him, at least become more public. appear once every month or every other month at the m.t.a. and tell the public what they're doing to stop the illegal taxi operation or the operation by limousine drivers who are performing like taxis like they're not supposed to. it would be great if there was more information out there publicly. i urge you, sergeant reynolds did that and when sergeant reynolds did that, he did a great job and unfortunately, politics prevented him from continuing. thup for your time. >> thank you. next speaker. >> mr. steve johnson, police officers association. i don't know what, if any, recourse we have when a member of the public comes up here and slanders one of our police officers. i'm not talking about gary. he's president of the union. big boy. he can take care of himself. i'm talking about another officer referred to earlier. but whatever recourse we have,
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whatever legal recourse we have, we're going to take. we're going to take against any individual who comes up here and says things that are not true. they're not true. i personally know officer ricky guerrero is a good cop. i hope you will keep an open mind, which i'm sure you will. >> thank you plrks johnson. next speaker? if there are no further speakers, public commonet is now closed. please call lynam number three. >> reports and announcements, chief's report. reports on crimes, stats, statistics review of recent activity, status update on activities since the h.r.c. joint meeting. >> good evening, chief, sir. how are you? >> good evening. i'm well. >> clyde, you're out of here. go ahead, chief. >> with regard to crime statistics, we continue to be down in violent crime about 9%. property crimes are up, however, 6% p auto related crimes, auto
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burglaries, auto thefts, overall part one crimes are up 2% to 3% so essentially flat, which is a good thing. so the officers are doing a great job. i think they've been under a lot of pressure lately, especially as these videos have come out and i hope they've been clear in the fact that i -- i completely honor the hard working, honest men and women of the police department which i believe are -- are virtually all of them. i'm hopeful when these videos are examined, the officers will be exonerated. as i've said f. it's proven otherwise, the action will be swift and severe as asked for. with regard to those investigations, we're finished and with these latest four threerks videos and one printed material that came out in late may, contact with the f.b.i., they will be also taking a look at our investigations for review in an abundance of caution to
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make sure we get it right. i will let the commission know as soon as we're finished. further, department recent activities we met today on c.i.t. i thought it was a very productive meeting. we actually put out a department bulletin next year that will be the precursor to everything else that will follow to slow everybody down when dealing with mentally ill people so that we're not the parties that harm anybody. that we're there to do good. that we're there to help. we're there to render sains and then get those folks that are in need to the services that they need to make them well. or at least keep them safe. again, i think we had a good meeting. we're going to be defining a curriculum towards a memphis model that hopefully will be finished in the next 30 days and refer that curriculum to post for a certification and then we'll undertake the classes straightaway and pilots will be
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at tenderloin, mission and southern stations. we're still working out the details there. we had a few entertaining moments today at our meeting but we'll get it sorted out. as far as the meeting last week that we had with regard to the tttf and a-10, i spoke with special assistant in charge douglas today. she's looking at the resolution to see how that might play in. she asked again if we were going to entertain reopening an a-10 because maybe the remedy lies along that road and in the meantime, commander tomokioa is working with the rec and j defusion centers in a building community of trust forum that will be in july across civic center at the library. about 50 people will be invited, key stakeholders in this, two-thirds from the community, including a c.l.u., h.r.c.,
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whoever might be most interested and might be able to get the word out and then about a third would be law enforcement. it's a lengthy meeting. i believe it's six hours. >> 4 1/2. >> 4 1/2 hours. so i think pretty much everybody can gain an understanding of what the law enforcement community was about in terms of trying to keep the community safe from terrorism. so with that, i will close my report and take any questions of anybody on the commission. >> thank you very much, chief. commissioner slaughter? commissioner slaughter: thank you for the report, chief, sir. on the report, people have been reading what's on the paper, concerned about what we see, appreciative and respectful of the department's intl investigation. obviously doesn't want to interfere with that. we look forward to your report
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to us presumably in closed session. personnel, discipline matters. so when you're ready to do it, i think we will all be eager to hear the results of the investigation. i have read with interest early on one of your public statements that essentially, you know, should the department consider equipping all of its officers or at least underkov teerms with video cameras so we can always have, because i firmly believe the vast, vast majority, 99-plus percent of our officers are doing a great job. and i wanted to sort of follow up with you on that and not necessarily for this meeting but just to say it's something i would be interested in understanding the pros and cons of because i can certainly see there would be real reasons to do it and some reasons not to do it. and as you guys being the experts there, it is something, there's obviously a cost issue as well. but it's something that i think could take a lot of the
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uncertainty out and give a lot of public -- put the public at ease in my respects because i do think that taking a report here and report there can give a very misleading perception in a press conference here and press conference there can give a very misleading perception as to what's going on in the department. i just want to let you know i noticed that. interesting idea. i'm not sure if it's good or bad for the department but i guess i'm saying over the next few months, i would like you to consider it and come to us and say, one way or another, yeah, i think this is something we should explore. or not no, i thought about it and we ought not to. for whatever reason, we're in tough budgetary times here. i don't want to spend money on something don't need. i just want to let you know as one commission, i'm really interested in that idea. >> shoush. actually i think it's a great idea. we've already talked about it.
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we have added vendors yesterday afternoon. we looked at three cameras. two of the vendors offered to give us 15 cameras each for a pilot. i have to meet with the p.o.a. in uniform safety -- and uniform safety committee. we've taken policies from oakland, albuquerque. i know albuquerque seems random but they have a civilian oversight body so we thought we might be able to tage something away from there rather than start with zero. there's a third department. any way, three policies, we think we can come up with a work policy. start off by putting these on our plain clothes sergeants, which we have a new policy that are requireded to be at any entry into residents in plain clothes. we really want to know their opinion, what they think. i think cameras on the officers will be invaluable. i think everybody's watching enough tv shows to be shocked and surprised and sometimes people pleased at the professionalism that law
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enforcement shows across the country. i think san francisco will end up being at the top of that list. and i think as long as we have a good policy for how we use the cameras and the officers are -- they don't get broken. there's going to be things that are going to happen but i think by and large, it's with the best of intentionses to protect the officers and present best evidence for court. >> i'm glad to hear that. i encurges you obviously consult with the o.c.c. as you pull that policy together because i'm sure they'll have valuable input. don't know historically if that's kind of policy that will have to come before the commission before implemented or not. i defer to the commission members who have greater seniority than me but i'm glad to hear you're that far along with the process chief. thank you? >> thank you. dr. marshall? >> chief, on another note, although we have our challenge here's in the city, i'm very pleased to see that san
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francisco's name was not on that list. i was talking to my kids last night, there was an article about the ten most dangerous cities in the united states, according to the f.b.i. san francisco is not on the list. interestingly enough, a city in detroit, michigan, flint, michigan, number one most dangerous city in the united states, these formulas they have. there were a couple of california cities on there. stockton california and oakland. baltimore, sadly my home place, st. louis. memphis was on the list, which is not good. but, anyway, i just want to say not only credit to theaáf department but to the citizens of san francisco for us not making a list like that. and i don't know where we are in the safest city but we're not on the most dangerous cities. and that was good to see. >> i appreciate it. i would love to take credit but i will give it to the community and hard working cops out on the street. i think together that's how they get it done.
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>> thank you, commissioner kingsley? >> commissioner kingsley: chief, on following up what commissioner marshall said, we said every week and listened to the chief provide us with statistics and mostly they're a measuring tool of where we were last year at the same time and we're measuring ourselves against ourselves historically. is there periodically a source of informations9ñm#ñ that you w able to add to that report to give us a bit of a picture of where san francisco falls in comparison to other cities throughout the country of similar demographics. is there an easy place to get that information? >> oh, sure. commissioner kingsley: whatever you feel is appropriate in terms of timing but if periodically we can get that comparison, i think that will give us a large
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irperspective on where we sit. >> sure, i'm happy to do that. i can assure you are we're a lot closer to the top ten safest than that list you have. >> very good. any other questions for the chief? >> i want to thank the chief foyer meeting with the three captains and myself and captain golderg on the c.i.t. issue. it is a big undertaking. senior partnership met on the issue recently this week and i appreciate the chief's thoughtfulness and proactiveness for issuing this department bulletin so there's a policy in place as we're getting c.i.t. under way. >> we're looking forward to. >> thank you. >> item 3-b, please. >> 3-b, o.c.c. director hings reports the view of recent activities, presentation of o.c.c.'s monthly comprehensive statistical reports for the period january 1, 2011 through april 30th, 2011 and january 1, 2010 through april 30, 2010.
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>> thank you, and welcome back drirktser hicks. >> good evening, president mazzucco and members of the commission, chief sir, it's good to be back. you have before you o.c.c.'s comprehensive statistical report for the period january 1 through april 30th of this year. and for comparison purposes, you also have the comprehensive statistical report for the same period last year. you also have pending case reports as of the same date. in april, 72 complaints were filed with the o.c.c. and through april 30, 2011, 260 complaints had been filed year to date. also as of april 30th, the o.c.c. closed 282 cases so we closed more cases than we opened and we had 403 pending cases. we sustained 21 cases or 7% of the cases we closed and as of
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april 30th, the o.c.c. conducted 26 mediations. in the same time last year, when we conducted seven mediations due to our coordinator's unexpected leave of absence. in two weeks i will provide you with the o.c.c.'s may comprehensive statistical report and that includes my report. >> great. thank you very much. commissioner slaughter? commissioner slaughter: dr. hicks, a few question. turning to the comprehensive statistical report, you show two -- year to date 260 cases opened, correct? >> yes. commissioner slaughter: and then some cases withdrawn and against cases opened to 11 and then cases closed 2011, 61 cases closed 2011. and then a little further down, cases outside the jurisdiction, i see 16 and then finally cases pending by year 2011, 155 s i
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guess my numbers don't add up. i take that 260, i subtract out the eight case that's were withdrawn, 61 cases that were closed for 2011 and -- and the 16 kices that were outside of the jurisdiction and i have 175 cases pending. maybe i'm looking at the wrong figures but i was wondering how we got to 155 cases pending by years 2011? and maybe those aren't apples to ams, but i can you that question. >> ok. commissioner slaughter: if you don't know it now, just get back to me on it. my second question is, looking at the cases -- the next report january 2010 to april 2010, cases opened and sustained or, excuse me, comparing the 2010 to
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2011, we showed in 2010 you opened as of the same date 328 cases and as of 2011, same time, you opened 260. so almost 20% fewer cases were opened in 2011 as compared to 2010. am i reading those correctly? >> you are reading those correctly. and this is consistent with the first quarter report that i gave you that included cases january through march, that there was approximately a 20% decline in case that's had been filed with the o.c.c. i also detailed to the police commission in looking at other jurisdictions, including oakland, that complaints filed with them had declined last year. commissioner slaughter: so i take this at strikingly good news. is there any reason not to be happy with the fact that our
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citizens and are complaining less about their interactions with our department? that seems to be a good thing, right? >> i think it is a good thing, unless it's some indication that individuals are not aware of the o.c.c. but we have robust outreach programs, and recently, we released some public service announcement, so i don't think outreach san issue. commissioner slaughter: i agree with you commout reach is not an issue and certainly would not be they would be less aware this year than they were last year. so people are aware, they're aware of the ability. we have a strong o.c.c. comms critically important to the health of the department. so i actually view this as the department's getting better, o.c.c. is getting better, it's working better and i think you deserve a lot of credit, department and officers on the street deserve a lot of credit. but when you see a 20% decline
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year over year, in people coming -- you know, coming and complaining about anywhere interactions with the department, i just think it's a remarkably good news and credit to the o.c.c. and credit to the department. so that's all i want to say. >> commissioner slaughter, i appreciate that and i attribute that to the improvement of the o.c.c., to the hard work of the entire o.c.c. staff, lawyers, investigators and our support staff. with regard to the numbers that don't appear to be adding up, i will get back to you on that. commissioner slaughter: thank you. >> commissioner -- >> commissioner marshall: commissioner, that upgrade, it would be interesting if people would believe that the department is getting better. it's a good point you raised, but -- commissioner slaughter: i raised it intentionally. we see these numbers and i think oftentimes there's a vocal minority of people who show up and speak and they aren't -- the
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folks who are pleased with their interactions don't show up and speak and don't come to the o.c.c. and say, boy, the department came out here and really served me well. and all we have to go on are the numbers that are presented and the people who are coming -- either the department or c.c.c. and saying, listen, something went wrong. i think too often we look for the negative and we also ought to be looking for the positive. seeing a 20% year over year decline in people expressing dissatisfaction with their interactions with the police, it's hard for me to see, yes, people may not know but it's hard for me to say they know less this year than they do last year about their ability to express dissatisfaction. so i think it's important to recognize just as we recognize decrease in crime and there could be other reasons that are attributable to decline. listen, we have 20% fewer people coming to the department and coming to the o.c.c. in saying
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they had a bad interaction with the department and that's worthy of note and worthy of praise. if the number ticks up the rest of the year or ticks up next year, we have to figure out why. at least for now i think it's certainly good news. commissioner marshall: i get your thrift. what we normally do when we hear something like that is let's just make sure there are folks out there who are not complaining because of some other reason. and so i -- i'm saying that to say, it's always bears investigating that because maybe -- i know i hear less. i said that before. i heard maybe because you're -- i don't know, have i heard less. if that had anything to do with this, that's wonderful. we always talk about covering the bases, outreach and language access and all of those things. we should do that. but also now maybe, maybe there are other things working here.
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commissioner slaughter: i agree. critically we don't want to let up on outreach and making sure our language access is as strong as possible. i think we ought not let up in making sure when the public are dissatisfied approaches feel they k it goes part and parcel that witnesses feel they can come forward in helping an investigation. i think it's all about building trust with the community and department which is critically important to the mission of keeping our community safe. so i understand exactly what you're saying, dr. marshall. but i thought it was worth pausing a second as we looked at these pictures. 3 president mazzucco: any further questions for director hicks? >> one final comment. first of all, thank you. the other comment is that the majority of officers who are eligible to go through mediation when a complaint has been filed,
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agrowed to do the mediation and i think mediations really help an officer to see things from -- complainants' point of view, even if the officer was correct in proper conduct. and it is an education process and i do believe that we have a well educated police force in san francisco with regard to interactions with the public. and that makes a huge amount of difference in terms of whether someone will or will not file a complaint. president mazzucco: great, wall, thank you very much -- well, thank you very much. plea call 3-c. >> commissioner's report, commisser president's report, commissioners' report. president mazzucco: thank you very much, lieutenant. this may fall under line 3-d but ripetly received numerous telephone calls regarding people interested in our police reserves.
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so if we can have a report somewhere in the near future about the number of reserves that we actually have. i know that, that number increased substantially in the last six to eight months, and there's several people who are police academy graduates who have expressed an interest in joining them. for some reason i keep getting the phone calls and forward them off to the reserve number. i forget what that status is because obviously it's a great pool to hire from and great tool to have because we don't pay the reserves to do jobs that the officers who are tied up doing other things, that they canrkv for example go to the hospitals and stay with the prisoners. if i find out a little bit about that. five phone calls in two weeks. it's kind of odd. the second concern i have is we move forward with the items we should be covering here, one of our main priorities was patrol specialist. so if we can have another update on compliance on patrolled specials to see where we're at not next week but the following week. if the lieutenant can let us
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know what the compliance is with reference to proof of insurance, uniform and training. those are the things i have been hearing about the last couple of weeks. you addressed an issue i have also been hearing about these videotapes. we only see one side of the story when you see a videotape. i know thats a former prosecutor. you have to sit back and see all of the evidence before we reach any conclusions but i do agree with steve johnson from the p.o.a. that we shouldn't reach any conclusions or say anything negative about any of our officers. quite frankly, those officers that feed people misinformation on the street ought to be careful, too. >> i want to go back to the complaints again. i would be remiss as chief of police, we have been talking to the officers regularly about taking the extra three to five minutes to explain to citizens why you do what you do. regardless if it's an arrest or citation, just be understood on why you're doing what you are doing. i really do think we have some of the most engaging men and women of any police department
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around. and any time you have a 20% reduction of complaints for whatever reason, it's got to be a good thing. president mazzucco: i agree. commissioners, any reports? we're quiet tonight. let's move on to line item 3-d, which is where i sort of moved already. commission announcements and schedule of items to identify for future commission meetings. lieutenant, are there any announcements regarding our next community meeting? >> no, there are no announcements. >> we talked about that last week -- do you remember? >> last week in june. president mazzucco: that will be the last week of june, is that correct? and where will that be -- >> englecide. president mazzucco:mp great. we will see captain mahoney. anything would you like to talk about for our future agenda? >> i should have asked the chief -- maybe i should have done that