tv [untitled] June 7, 2011 1:30am-2:00am PDT
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hopefully, the e line can allow for more capacity along the ferry building, but also serve as a connector down to the southern piece of the embarcadero, down to the caltrain terminal. moving forward from there, we are really looking at bicycles as a key strategy. obviously, a lot of potential conflicts with pedestrians and cars along this route, but it also offers us opportunities in that it is a fairly flat. in an otherwise hilly city. we are looking at different ways to allow people to have safe and secure areas to leave their bikes, if they have their own, but also look at ways to bring bicycle rental companies for the city's bike share pilot
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program. if people did not want to wait in line for a train, they could spend the day running their bicycle along the beautiful waterfront. frankly, when i visited the first time when i was 22, i rented a bike and rode across the golden gate bridge. this is something i am excited about and hope that we can deliver on as a valuable piece to our transportation strategy. satellite parking is another strategy we are looking at on a lot of different fronts. our goal is to generally discourage car use in close proximity to the water areas. what we're looking to do is to find higher volume parking opportunities further away so that we can use existing transit lines or other shuttle opportunities that would bring folks from those locations into the waterfront areas. there are some examples here, some of which we do not believe
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will work as well as we thought originally. we are already talking to the presidio trust about that particular location. that area will not be a parking area anymore. we are also looking at different areas, including using bart parking lots as intercept parking lots. they did this earlier with the golf tournament. considering places like candlestick park. i think we are looking to cast the net when the soap that people have an opportunity to part, but in ways that are strategically smart for our overall view of how people can get to this event. additional considerations. as i mentioned, we want this coordinate communication strategy to bolster our efforts through this out reprocess. we have heard a lot of examples of the atlanta olympics, the
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opening of at&t park, as being effective information campaign that kept people from driving their cars. -- this outreach process. we see that as our goal, getting the word out not only to people in the bay area but using travel associations, hotels, to try to get information to people that would allow them to make their choices and know that they have granted options -- transit options. disabled access, of course, we know that is key. we are working with mta accessible services to flush out that part of the plan. in conjunction, understanding the spectator venues themselves and have access will work. both of those efforts are gaining momentum, in terms of understanding what each side needs to speak to the other about. it will be a helpful addition to the final people plan.
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interagency initiatives. we have had good operation with transit operators, mtc, talking about an effort to use the clipper card more broadly. i think it would be a great way for people to use that as a passport to different options, will start our efforts to provide for the residence. we know that there are other potential capital projects that could move forward that could obviously bolster these efforts. a number of them are proposed along the waterfront, including the f line extension, other improvements to the embarcadero railway that would allow for better coordination between trains. those are not necessarily directly in our control but we are trying to stay coordinated so we can utilize those benefits and our transportation planning, should those projects come forward.
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here is a listing of support- related issues we are studying closely with the help of your staff, as well as other stakeholders. the waterfront transit the linkages, understanding not only how the f line works now, how we can link people to the e line, if it goes into service, but also underlined that touched the waterfront, allowing people to get to this area from the western spectator sites. we are figuring out the best way to do these things, looking at the spirits of the port and the embarcadero. bringing this many people to the waterfront, obviously, will be very dislocating for existing businesses, people that live in the area. as well, to have and that
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successful -- a successful sporting event, we need to have the ability for teams and others to access the very easily. ferries provide a good opportunity in a lot of ways to move people to the area. at the same time, you have challenges, in terms of the coordination, not only in certain locations where they are landing along the port, but also where it will be fairly congested in the bay, from the race. that is a challenging conversation but we look forward to continuing that with port staff. bicycle and pedestrian safety. this has to do with an already constricted area along the waterfront, including along the embarcadero. while we incurred purging bikes and pedestrians, that we can do so in a safe manner. we are looking at a number of different locations for
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restricting automobile access, including potentially enclosures on the northbound embarcadero. also, in the northern waterfront areas from keeping too many cars to where they cannot get out of in a quest for an ever-elusive parking spot. that is an engagement challenge, making sure that we set up those restrictions in a way that makes sense for all those who need to use those areas but also enhances the events themselves. with that, this is the last slide, identifying some of our locations online. we continue to take public comment through may. but as i mentioned, it will be and interest process. we will try to get as much, and as we can. with that, happy to answer any questions. >> thank you. is there any public comment on this item? >> thank you for a thorough
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briefing. in terms, from the city's perspective -- i have a couple observations. and i do not know how much new research, in terms of other international events, olympics. i went to the beijing olympics, for example, and noticed how they managed that. i think this plan works well, in my opinion, for people who live in the area and understand a transit system. but if you are coming from the outside, other parts of the united states, or overseas, which i am hoping we get those visitors -- i think this plan will have to go more into debt because people will not expect to go on to some of the public transit systems. i do not know whether or not you know from the event authorities the type of visitor that comes to the america's cup. from previous examples in valencia, newport, etc.
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my impression that it is a middle to upper middle tourist. they are certain -- looking for -- not necessarily amenities -- but certain standards of what we show them. visitors in the city, what we draw from the regional area, if we could have some sort of an estimate. the customer experience, in my opinion, has to be designed differently. obviously, you know you will have the super doppler crowd, and they will be expected to be treated with velvet gloves. then you also have the person coming from union square. coming from the beijing olympics, they have certain lanes in the city that had buses with certain placards or cars that could only travel there. we got to all of the venues quickly. buses were used because there was no way that anyone was going to use the public transit system.
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but i think you have to think about the private side of this as well and i do not know what the event authority plans to do. i cannot imagine if you are staying in a hotel, a shuttle service -- it does not need to be exclusively at one hotel, but there is a lot more to think about for the international visitor, but their profile looks like, and what their expectations would be. i think this is a great plan for the people who live here, who understand our values and san francisco, from the standpoint of environment, sustainability, but i'm not sure everyone coming to san francisco -- if you are coming from copenhagen, for example. there are a lot of bicycles. if you are coming from asia, you are think you have graduated from bicycles to motor cars. you may not think going back to bicycles is a good thing. i am not try to be critical, just understand the need to
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understand people's expectations for a better experience and we have to design this and run what those expectations are in order to show san francisco at its best. >> that is a point well taken. i do not see it as a criticism at all. we have had some good meetings with the union square business improvement district to have helped us understand their thoughts on me out reach you are talking about. we certainly want to create the right amount of information and understanding on what people will find when they get here. to a certain extent, we want to be open to other people's preferences about how to do it, but at the same time, we want to be funneling people toward the right time -- kind of transportation. finding that balance is something we need to continue to work on, with people that know these travelers, their culture, much better than we do. >> i know this is unique with
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the america's cup, the ability to view this from land, but is there a profile on the type of person that goes to watch the america's cup worldwide? understanding the profile, you can design the event you can expect. that would then help us as a city to be better prepared to meet those expectations, whether in the hospitality, restaurant, hotel -- it cetera. since you are the master planner here. what about hot air balloons over the bay watching the race? i am just saying. also, people coming from overseas, and all this distance, they do not mind paying. that is not to say that you want to discriminate against, and we
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certainly want the public to be able to view this and have access to it, but i do not see any issue of people who want to have better service paying for a covered stand. i have tickets that allow me to be here. and somebody could still come in for free. people are willing to pay. for good service. and corporation will pay to host customer is watching this as well. there are other things and you could do on the private side in addition to making sure the public has access to watch this great the event. >> we are looking at a lot of different areas, including shuttle access, taxi access. i think finding a different price points is something that we want to do to allow people to strategize in a way that makes sense for them >.
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>> thank you for the great overview. i believe there is a concept of a green line beyond which automobiles cannot go. i wonder if you could share any preliminary thinking about how people may need to potentially access. beyond that, how they will be able to do so? >> you can see it's stretching along the north of waterfront. this is primarily there to show what is being studied under the environmental review process, to see in knock on the facts. what we recognize pretty clearly is any type of restriction has to take into account the needs of residents and businesses in the area. what we understand, partners at mta understand, that needs to be a public dialogue on how that works. we have heard comments on both
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sides. who that line as far south as you can. then we have heard people say, what if i want a carpet cleaner to come to my house? is that going to be a hassle? in some ways, this is a new approach where we need to figure out the right mechanisms, and 2012 will do that, but we need to engage with public to allow people to get to where they need to get to, realize that there may be times of the day where they may not be able to do that. >> thank you for the presentation. i appreciate all the effort that is going in to do some of the advanced planning, recognizing that this is somewhat different than anything that has been done before as it relates to the america's cup.
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i know a number of my friends in the bus to a community are especially appreciative that bicycles have been incorporated into the plan. perhaps, the idea that there could be a healthier motor transit available to visitors. however, to commissioner ho's point, there will be a different profile to some of the attendees. i wonder if there is any thought given to shuttles, any vehicles -- it could even be electric vehicles -- a twofer showing off our principles. we might want to take advantage of some of the company that might be willing to showcase their vehicles and provide those for some of the transit options. >> yes, and in fact, those
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companies are making themselves known to us. i think the good thing -- and a parallel to the people's plan process -- we are putting together in sustainability document with the help of the department of the environment. they have a lot of ideas that are very much top of mind. more broadly, in terms of the other folks, in terms of shuttles, there are rules that allow muni to be a shuttle service. that is more of a situation where we have to look at what our options are to make that a shuttle service. hopefully, all of that will be more well-defined, at least the process, going forward, by the time this is more defined. >> maybe get the google folks to loan us some of their shuttles.
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>> we are asking people with buses, as much as we can. there is also an interest in sharing. can we lend you assets? a lot of good things can come out of it, but we need to have those discussions as quickly as we can. >> mike, since i work with you, i know you are thinking along the same lines. i am more concerned about the transit and commerce coming in and out of the day. oil tankers coming in and out. bulk cargo cruise line ships. that is one question. i am sure you are not responsible for that -- at least i hope you are not. you are talking with agencies, i suspect. >> it is really the coast guard that is the lead agency. they have been a fantastic partner. they actually formed a marine task force around these commercial shipping interests to understand the situation going
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into it. that will help to mold special regulations on how traffic can move along the bay to allow the traffic to get through the area. they are also talking about making sure the racing area and spectator areas can be configured in such a way where a ship can come and, despite all the traffic. in many ways, that is job one. not having this event get in the way of a key waterway. we are definitely involved. the maritime division had been front and center as well. those discussions will move forward, hopefully, to a decision that all parties are happy with. >> is there any current provision for any shore power for the vessels that link up at the piers, like we do for the
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cruise ships? >> are you referring to the large spectator vessels? >> the one that you had pictured. >> it is an issue that we discussed. shoreside power at pier 27 needs to be dislocated during construction. one of the conversation we are looking forward to having is with the air district that provide the grant funds to provide that for power to see if there is a way we can provide that temporary of up to these larger spectator vessels. if we cannot accomplish that, they would be using generators while they are at birth. so it is an idea we have thought of. we may need more technical input to see if that is possible.
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>> thank you. you have thought about it. >> very good question about commerce on the day, the importance of that logistical waterway. it is one that comes up quite a bit. i know it shocks a lot of people but we practice these techniques every fleet week. whenever the blue angels flying overhead, or lack of a better word, there is a rectangular box in the bay where vessel traffic cannot cross. that is policed by the oversight of the coast guard as well as the san francisco department maritime unit. we do that for four days running during clique week, and we will need to do it more spectacularly for the america's cup, but as we come upon our next week we, i encourage you to take a look at some of these things that are already working for us, getting vessels through
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that box for fleet week. that is something that we have done before, just not on this magnitude. and on to the other question about balloons. i think that is an incredibly picturesque idea. we do not know what security provision there will be, air space rights. there are some guidelines under that under the host agreement as well. but all of those ideas are open and will come. not all of them are in our control. >> i had one other piggybacking on commissioner crowley's concerns. focusing lax on access commercially on the waterfront, but in terms of incorporation in the people plan, recognizing a number of the businesses along the waterfront need goods and services dropped off. is there a separate plan, will
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something be incorporated into this to try to make provisions for those necessities? >> that will definitely be incorporated into this plan in a lot of ways. this plan sets up a good framework to start the conversation. we are aware it does not have the details that are needed for those types of reconciling conflicting needs and uses. we had a good meeting with the port property managers and had a good brainstorming session on the kinds of progress we want to see. we will continue to do outreach to those groups to make sure what plans we put in place are going to work, or what are the things they want to see, as an adaptability thing, if they are not getting access they need? how can we fix things so that we do not go in assuming that one thing will work [inaudible] >> i just had a couple of other
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questions. i know it is mentioned here, treasure island. but i do not see fit -- there might be other negotiations that have to take place. if he did have the wing from treasure island, which seems great -- is it just that you have not gotten to that point to figure out how treasure island can be a given point? they would not be even coming into the city. -- viewing point? >> i think what we are looking at -- we are looking at a lot of strategies and how treasure island could be activated. right now, it has not been one era called out for specific plans by the event authority, but they have been in discussions with us asking, what could happen out there? it is more so we try to describe the potential impact of having
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something in that location. some sort a spectator than you, mitigation that we need to make to make that work. how can we bring that forward and realize that shuttle service? it is those kinds of coordination issues -- >> or making sure that people from the east bay co to treasure island vs coming into the city. >> there is an eastern dock on treasure island at the scene to allow docks to be put in there. we are trying to speak with
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officials to see how that might work. then that might determine how the side make. >> i just wanted to be more specific -- in terms of -- you do not control where people will be disbursed to. weather is a system where you can come up with a plan -- and it may be free -- maybe you have to pay for the viewing area. you have so many people in the blue area, green area. so you plan the dispersion, rather than letting it happen and not knowing what the congestion will be. it seems to me, if there is any thinking along the lines, make sure that people go online or whatever -- you get a ticket. it is free, but you go to this area. so you know how many people to expect, so you have some control at least rather than having everyone go to the same spot and be congested.
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>> that kind of thinking needs to be big into the environmental review. we need to figure out how to mitigate those impacts. that thinking is in process. you brought up using the internet. one of the things we are excited about is time to get a different pieces of data so that people can go from one place to say christie field has this, but it is crowded, so i would rather go to appear 29 and walked up to fisherman's wharf. -- pier 29 and walked up to fisherman's wharf. i think there are a lot of opportunities, but it requires us figure out what those strategies are and getting them in place in time. >> any other questions or comments? on average, how many people are
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we expecting per day? >> right now, we have some refined production that really range from the 300,000's on a peak day, 50,000 for a non-peak week day. we are continuing to refine those in the environmental review process, but that is the ballpark we are seeing >> great. -- seeing. >> great. just to put that in perspective, the x games, we had about 300,000 people coming in and day, and that was through art. of course, for the giants parade we saw multiples of that. >> thank you. it looks like a lot of work have gone into this plan and i look forward to the next version. to promote support a little bit more. also, in the people plan, we do
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really want to see the water taxi program take up as well. we did not talk about it much today. it is still in its infancy. but if there was ever a motivating factor for that, it would be now. of course, we would need to interlay that with all of these vessels coming in, but it does speak to mike's opening point. an opportunity put into place, things that are long lasting. >> am i correct that we will have another water taxi landing open by then? >> i think it is a little later. the exploritorium opens in 2013, but i believe the landing is trailing that. they are ahead of schedule, though, so anything could happen.
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