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encouraging that they are thinking of doing this. the second is the $20,000 giftit from sports basement. this funding is for equipment and supplies for any and all rec centers. rec directors, working with their manager, can apply to us. it is a simple process that is approved by both rec park and sfgtv. some new and innovative projects we recently funding include a lego education robot kit to expand their randall museum's robotics course for fifth through 12th grades students in rec center city-wide. also, safety equipment. pads, ramps, and more for the new action sports program. i think you saw some of that today. it is fun to think of all the
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kids at summer camp who are being protected by this. i would like to recognize bob and his staff for the great work this year. and michael taylor of san francisco parks trust, and our trusty, christine gardner, who encouraged sports basement to keep up their support. if you accept this gift, we can do even more. sports basement provided give certificates in support of a fine contest call the name your favorite rec center, going on now through june 30. these are $250 gift certificates that will go to the winners of the contest. over 125 people had voted for their favorite rec center. all you have to do is go to our website, sfpt.org, and vote for your rec center, and the winners are going to get these gift certificates. thank you very much. >> thank you.
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>> is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners? >> entertain a motion. >> obviously, these are very important gifts to the department. my question is, how do we acknowledge these partners, these individuals, that give us these gifts? do we give them a sign ainge or promotional consideration, -- do we give them signage or promotional consideration, or do we give them certificates of appreciation? i want to be clear on how we thank these individuals appropriately. >> we have a number of different strategies for recognizing the philanthropic and corporate sponsorship that we get. the sentences go part trust in
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our print -- the san francisco parks trust and our own staff collaborate closely to cover -- together. everyone who gives to this department is due recognized by the department. >> thank you. commissioners, i will entertain a motion. all those in favor? the ayes have it. >> item 7 is off calendar. we're on item eight, general public comment continue. at this time, members of the public may address the commission. is there anyone who would like to speak during general public, and that has not already done so? general public comment is closed. item nine is commissioners matters. >> commissioners, anything newb -- new?
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what's in the public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. item 10, new business agenda setting. commissioners? >> anyone have anything to add? >> any public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. we're on item 11, communications. and we do have public comment. we haven't barbara and judy. -- we have barbara and judy. you have three minutes each. >> good morning, commissioners and general manager. i am barbara s -- i am barbara sadr, -- sutter. i noticed there was not the supporting documents on file, so i brought my supporting
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documents with me for you. there are two letters. one of the letters is a 1990 letter written by rec and park to peach growers, which put an agreement in place for us to be able to swim at camp mather for a separate fee for the full summer. as far as i know, it is still in effect, because we never got anything to fill us in differently than that. the other letter is the letter i wrote back in september to mr. ginsburg. it is asking for this an agreement that was done in 1990. some of the cabins -- it was
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treated like it was a donation, and that was fine until last year. all of a sudden, they wanted us to do a day use fee, which is $13 a day, at least it was last year. that equals a $91 a week for one person. for a total of 27 hours, that is all the pool is open during one week. that is just way too high for some families. for two people, it is $182 per week. if you have a family, children, i mean, it is still $30 a day. too expensive. also, it takes about 20 to 30 minutes, because i had to do it, to fill out the paperwork to get the wristband for the day use the. -- for the day use fee. i did it on a weekday, but if it
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was a saturday when people are checking into the camp, it would really hold up the camp. it took 30 minutes for each person from peach growers who wanted to go swimming to fill out the forms. and they are in the same line. anyway, that, and that is probably why we were given the flat rate to start with. it is easier on everybody. still have paperwork. you have to check things off. you still pay. not all of our cabins use the swimming facilities, but i would say half or three-quarters of them probably do. anyway, we had hoped to settle this matter before camp opened, but we're too late. as soon as possible would be good. thank you. >> thank you. with the general manager please meet with those folks? -- would the general manager please meet with those folks? >> good morning, commissioners
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and general manager. i am judy. i also represent the peach growers. peach growers has a long-term relationship with been mather. we're fortunate enough to have had these happens in our families for several generations, and we have provided mutual support back and forth with mather for a great number of years and assistance locally. many at the camp had family members, and history dating back to the construction of hetch hetchy. my family goes back to 1927. i do not go back quite that far, but i have 60 years in, and i learned to swim there. i have a selfish interest as well. i am describing this so you understand we're not casual tourists in the area, that we have a long-term relationship. we want to be able to resume the structured arrangement that we had and to come up with a fair arrangement to both. it will be a little bit of a
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revenue source for the city. instead of every once in a while getting a few day passes, you'd get some amount. the rate we had before was about $100. that was 1990's money, and we support a fare increase to that. that is half or a third of somebody's salary, and every little bit helps these days. we would like to respectfully ask that we find a way to work with park and rec to see if we can resume this, and hopefully fairly quickly because summer is here. thank you very much. >> is there anyone else would like to make public comment on this item? if so, please come forward. >> good morning. my name is andrea, and i am here on behalf of the peach growers residents tract also. i grew up at camp mather. my father brought there for 25 years. he was a truck driver for park and rec. they sent him up there for a number of years, 25 +.
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i worked in the general store, and my siblings worked in the dining halls. my mother ever done in the store with myself. my father retired and purchased a cabin down a peach growers, in the hopes that he would always be of to do to camp mather. occasionally we go up and sit by the lake, but we feel like we are intruders. because we now have to purchase a day pass. my father suffers from alzheimer's and enjoys the time that i can take him and walk through the camp, and he can enjoy his memories. i ask that we have an agreement where we do not feel like we have to apply a wrist band every day to go down there. our cabins are only used by our families. they're not rented out. it is not the general public coming through. i encourage you to come up with some sort of an agreement with us. thank you. >> is there anyone else who would like to speak on this item?
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>> 1931 was my first summer at campmather -- at camp mather. i was four years old. we were not actually to stay in the camp, but the campground was open to the public for a fee. my brothers doctor recommended getting him out of the summer fog in santa cruz. so we camped at mather they all summer long and for four more years after that. of course our days were spent at the lake. i learned to swim in the old cement pool, and i was proud when i passed the test is one in the leg. in 1935, my father was able to buy a place at peach growers, and we continued to spend summers there, from june until september, swimming in birch lake every day.
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we still spend summers at our cabin. my father's grandchildren and great-grandchildren are growing up at the cabin, except that now they're not able to swim in birch lake. * change, that is to be understood. but -- times change, that is to be understood. but surely it is possible to come up with some equitable arrangement that will allow the families at peach growers to share the heritage of the use of a birch lake. i ask for your thoughtful consideration in this matter. >> is there anyone else who would like to comment under this item? >> my name is dennis. me and my family have a cabin at peach growers, so i would like to address the issue of use of the lake.
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my understanding is that the first cabins at peach growers were built around 1910. so we're talking about a history of about 100 years. and i also want to emphasize that the property, th mah -- the mather property is very unique. for hundreds of square miles, there really are not open meadows like that mather. only a few areas. the uniqueness is that it has this late -- lake. it is really the only place in a large area that is available for people to swim or to have that recreational opportunity. for example, the city has a
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large reservoir where hetch hetchy is, but that is closed to the public. the city has another dam with the body of water at early intake, which is closed to the public. there is a swimming pool at early intake, which is closed to the public. there used to be a dam on the middle fork when it the boy scouts had a camp, but that is no longer there. so this particular spot, this lake, is the only place. and what my concern also is is that the city, by having a high fee, if that is what its decision is, which for a family of four, i believe, would be $52. again, not 100% sure on that, but i think so.
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there is also the issue of the difficulty to actually go and use and get a day pass. so not only do you have a high fee, but when, on a saturday -- people may come up on a friday night and then a saturday afternoon to go to get a pass, and it is the very time- consuming process, because all of the people that are checking in are at the office. if you have ever gone to mather and had to check in, which i have done many times -- i have been going to mather for over 50 years. i was up there with my family. my father was a police officer. that is it. >> thank you. >> is there anyone else would like to comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> commissioners, anybody?
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>> then we are on item 12, which is the adjournment. >> a great. there are communications. -- at the -- [inaudible] >> we have found out that that is not one of our parks. yes. >> all right, thank you. >> i guess they have enough problems with jurisdiction. >> commissioner harrison >> before we adjourn, could someone please read what was on the plaque? i cannot read the plaque, and i
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think for tony, he was such a major contributor to camp mather, and i could not read it. i think it does a disservice to him for us not to have that information. >> it is not clear from the picture, i will be there the week of june 25 for our senior staff event. i will bring back a picture with the text. >> i cannot even read what we said. >> i do not think you can see it from the photograph, so i will get it. >> 0h, so you'll have to get that. somebody will. please have somebody do that, because his contributions were just invaluable, and i really appreciate all the work that he did. i want to know if we recognized
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>> this lodge is home to some of the best fly casting pools in the world. these shallow concrete pools don't have fish. this is just a place where people come to practice their fly casting technique. ith was built in the 1930's and ever since, people have been coming here to get back to nature. every year, the world championship of fly casting is held in san francisco and visitors from all over the globe travel to be here. >> we are here with phil,
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general manage of san francisco rec and parks department at the anglers lodge. what do you think about this? >> it is spectacular, travis from oregon, taught me a snake roll and a space cast. >> there are people from all over the world come to san francisco and say this is the place to be. >> yeah. it's amazing, we have teams from all over the world here today and they are thrilled. >> i flew from ireland to be here. and been practicing since for the competition. all the best casters in the world come here. my fellow countryman came in first place and james is on the current team and he is the head man. >> it's unique. will not see anything like it where you go to compete in the
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world. competitions in ireland, scotland, norway, japan, russia each year, the facilities here in the park are second to none. there is no complex in the world that can touch it. >> i'm here with bob, and he has kindly agreed to tell me everything i need to know about casting. i'm going to suit up and next, we're in the water. >> what any gentleman should do. golden gate angling has free lessons the second saturday of every month. we have equipment show up on the 9:30 on the second saturday of every month and we'll teach them to fly cast. >> ok. we are in the water. >> let me acquaint you with the fly rod. >> nice to meet you. >> this is the lower grip and the upper grip. this is a reel and a fly line.
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we are going to use the flex of this rod to fling away. exactly as you moved your hands. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> i'm a natural. >> push both arms forward and snap the lower hand into your tummy. push forward. >> i did gave it a try and had great time but i might need some more practice. i met someone else with real fly casting skills. her name is donna and she is an international fly casting champion. >> i have competed in the casting ponds in golden gate park in san francisco. i have been to japan and norway for fly casting competition. i spend my weekends here at the club and at the casting pond. it's a great place to learn and have fun. on a season day like this, it
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was the perfect spot to be. i find fly casting very relaxing and also at the same time very challenging sport. takes me out into the nature. almost like drawing art in the air. and then i can make these beautiful loops out there. >> even though people from across the globe come here to compete, it's still a place where locals in the know relax and enjoy some rely unique scenery. until next time, get out and play!
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a bully, but doing a great job for sitting in my stead as i have been away for the last meeting. the other thing is, i would also like to make some comments, saluting the staff here on upcoming retirement. patricia beasley with the housing and it inspection division will be retiring, i think, june 24. along with that, and gerald mcdermott, an electrical inspector, also towards the end of this month. ann aherne, an anchor for the commission for quite a few years, will also be retiring in july.
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the category here is that they have a boy served the city and have more importantly always put their good work through the efforts of the department, and for that, we will always be thankful. also, i would like to commend the staff. dan lowry, chief building inspector. steve penelli, the chief plumbing inspector. rosemary, a housing inspector. john, and the acting senior building inspector. they have provided a whole range
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of categories of performance ranging from addressing nov's and inspections. when i look at the numbers, it is really commendable. again, thank them for their continued service, and good job and good work. also, i would also like to say the effort of the commission would be to also maintain and keep moving forward with the balance of the year, strong support for not only staff, but for the categories of how the department will continue to perform and take on the challenges of reduced staff, but at the same time, probably the ingrowing load of good work that
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is coming into the city. all of that, i hope, will provide an uptick to not only the growing economy in san francisco, but also our department, and hopefully, a push to provide additional training and equipment will come into play. looking forward to the results of the contract negotiations to finalize the permit tracking system, of which, pamela has been strongly involved with through this period of time. chief plumbing inspector pene
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lli helped out with those restaurant owners in chinatown, helping with the fats, oils, and greecgrease. chief building inspector dan lowery, dbi staff that contributed to the investigation of the most recent fire on june 2. also, the collaboration of our department with other departments staff to make, not only more efficient city with the services we provide, but also paying attention to the health, safety, and welfare of the community of san francisco. that is all. thank you. >> is there pu
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