reserve program. we can have a brief report on that next week, that would be great. commissioners qwes? is there any public, regarding line item 3 a, b, c, or d? >> commissioners, good evening once again. i have one, and it is brief. i have made several requests over the past number of months to the occ on documentation related not only to my complaint but also a racial breakdown of all the complaints and multiple complaints against police on both sides of the fence, and i have yet to get any documents from occ related to any of that. my complaint at the sec went nowhere -- my complaint at the occ went nowhere for nine months. second, i will not make a racial

case out of this because i don't think it is racially biased, but the mere fact the investigator was african-american, the police officer was african-american, and i was a salted verbally for almost two minutes while he felt he had full control of the room, i think this investigation of this complete warrants something further. i don't bring that up is any particular issue but i bring up to the fact that i have asked for the breakdown for the number of police officers who have more than two or three complaints out for them and the occ as a year ago has refused to move these documents forward. i think if you have diversity in the city of san francisco and you identify the racial background of the person who complains, he should also have these documents related to the policeman on the other side. the occ has not complied with

any requests that i have made since last year. it is getting a little tiring. we are all in the same city. two is that even though occ complaints have gone down, i don't have that on any reflection of occ themselves. that is more likely on the policeman doing a better job in terms of communicating with the public at large. and i think that is the issue. so i address you in this particular case that i would like those documents, as requested. ms. hicks has my letters. she should bring them forward. so that i can close my case without any further inquiry in terms of what the actual numbers are and what the actual official documents are. because i think my whole case, since ms. hicks lost the documents twice, the

investigator lost the documents for the third time, when i stood before the police commission, there something a little funny that took place at occ to reflect my particular complaint. i don't think it was an issue that it was a very big complaint, because it was not. but i think if the occ is going to take care of complaints in that manner, something is missing. president mazzucco: any additional comments? >> yes, commissioners. it just occurred to me that often what is overlooked is i think it's significant part of the sfpd, and that is the airport bureau. if we are going to have the captain and such come here, i'd like to hear from the airport bureau, because we really did not hear any statistics in regards to what happens at the airport.

sitting here, it occurred to me that in all of the commission meetings, we have not heard anything from them. president mazzucco: okay, thank you. any further public comment? dr. marshall? vice president marshall: i know that it is a couple weeks away, but what you make the announcement of the committee meeting. president mazzucco: he did. vice president marshall: oh. sorry. president mazzucco: line item 4? >> item four, public comment on all matters pertaining to item 6 below, closed session, disciplinary cases, including public comments on the vote whether to hold item 6 in closed session. president mazzucco: ladies and gentlemen, any public comment on the item 6? any public comment regarding the confidentiality of these proceedings? hearing nine, please call the next item, please?

>> a vote on whether to hold item 6 in closed session. president mazzucco: motion? all in favor? ladies and gentlemen, we're now moving into closed session. thank you. >> we are back in open session. item #7 is to vote to whether not to let to disclose information from the closed session. >>: item #8. and before no. 8, i would like to adjourn tonight's meeting in

the memory of firefighters vince perez and tony valerio. all in favor? we are adjourned. >> thank you. it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> thank you. we'll be taking a roll call of

commissioners. commission president thomas mazzucco? >> president. >> commission vice president dr. joe marshall. >> here. thank you. >> mr. petra dejesus is excused. commissioner angela chan. >> present. >> commissioner carol kingsley. >> present. >> and commissioner james slaughter is en route. you have a quorum of commissioners additionally on this evening we have ms. joyce hicks and chief of police. >> thank you very much, lieutenant falby. ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the wednesday, june 15, 2011 san francisco police commission hearing and tonight's agenda we'll have closed session matters to deal with discipline but the rest of the agenda seems light and we'll move to that. the commissioner is to the dayous. let's call number one. >> item 1 is general public comment. the public is welcomed to address the committee regarding

items that don't appear on tonight's agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. the speaker shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or the department or o.c.c. personnel. under rules of order, under public comment neither police or personnel or commissioners are to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. individual commissioners and police and o.c.c. personnel should refrain from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during public comment. public comment is limited to three minutes. >> thank you, lieutenant. good evening, mr. delanus. >> hello, commission. you know i don't come here often so when i come here it's usually a matter of urgency. i was in front of the budget committee meeting today and it appears as though the draw program will not be extended. it appears as though they will vote to not extend the drop program. so one of the things, i know this is ultimately going to be dropped on your lap two or three years down the road when we're short about 500 or 600

cops, i wanted to give you some of the numbers i think are real numbers and don't think are even disputed by human resources. we believe that effective july 1, which will be a week and a half, we will have 330 officers in the drop program which means the clock will have started one to three years from that point on. according to human resources own statistics, we anticipate losing an additional 75 officers per year through general attrition. that brings the total of officers that we would need in the next three years to about 655. without any academy classes. when you add that to the fact we're already 150 officers below the charter mandated minimal staffing level of 1971, we would have to hire approximate 800 officers over the next three years to comply with charter section 4.127. due to the fact no academy classes are budgeted for fiscal year 2011, we would have to hire at least 20 academy

classes over the two following years just to maintain the charter mandated number. obviously, that's not practical nor financially possible, physically possible. in addition, the mass exodus of police officers will coincide with san francisco's hosting of the america's cup. that could leave us 600 to 700 officers short just when we need him the most. in addition we'll be losing many of our most experienced supervisors and investigators when we need them and this will be a critical blow to the efficiency of our department. so while the board of supervisors prepared to end the drop program effective next week, it also is apparent they have no plan in place to deal with the mass ox oddous of this department -- mass exodus of this department the next three years and believe the finger will be pointed to the police commission for those to blame and the chief of police for not back filling the department. just a word to the wise that these numbers are real, that we are actually going to be looking at replacing probably

1/3 of our police department the next three years. i don't know how we're going to do it. i don't know where the money will come from but it is the reality of life. i just don't want this to come as a big surprise to you folks because i've been crunching the numbers here, talked to human resources, talked to the mayor's office. nobody disputes my numbers and nobody has a plan for what will happen. it's a dire situation. hopefully the commission can come up with a plan, but i know ultimately you're the ones that will probably be blamed when the ripper hits the road. so i'm just giving you a two-year advance warning when they come to you and start yelling at you why we're 400, 500 down. >> thank you. can you stand by, we don't normally do this but ms. kingsley would like to address you. >> thank you for your comments. do you have that in writing, the statistics went by rather quickly for me. i would like to have a hard copy of that if you could give me that. >> i will give you a copy. matter of fact i have it here

and tim can make some copies for you, ok. commissioner slaughter: thank you, sir. >> mr. delanus, we've been discussing this issue the last three months if we're not mistaken, there is a concern about staffing and hiring and about the drop program and about the number of officers that are eligible to retire today. what is that number, 700? >> we have 562 that are eligible to go into the drop program which means that's 562 people with either more than 25 years over the age of 50. we have over 320 officers with more than 30 years. but with the drop program ending, they're all going into the drop effective in the next week. >> what do you recommend the solution for this problem be? what would be your recommendation on behalf of the police officers recommendation? >> it would be a task force made of the police commission, the p.o.a. and the department to discuss a plan for the future and somehow get the point across to the board. i think i got the point across to the board today that this is a real problem and scott weiner

was talking about calling for an emergency session to discuss the shortage, the upcoming shortage in the department. but i think it is something that needs to be addressed sooner than later and think we could address it as a group, possibly a representative from the commission department and the p.o.a. and i would be involved in it myself. >> thank you. >> thanks. next speaker. >> good evening, commissioners. mr. harrison before you once again on the issue of my brother being murdered january 2. . i'm coming forward to say we appreciate every effort that's been made to capture the person responsible for the death of my brother. however, we believe more can be done. i spoke with somebody before the meeting started today, and i was informed that a reward could be offered through the

mayor's criminal justice program. we're going to look into that. i just wanted to say briefly, there are individuals on the board who knew my brother and know his track record in san francisco and although he was in an unfavorable situations in san francisco, what happened to him in january 2011, he didn't deserve that. so no matter what we may think or opinions we may form about individual and their record, he did not deserve to be murdered. so i just wanted to put that out there and, you know, we just appreciate everything, but we do hope that more can be done in resolving the case dealing with my brother charles harrison. thank you. >> thank you.

president mazzucco: next speaker. >> good evening, commissioners. i wish our new commission was here tonight. i called that two weeks ago. i know who it will be, it's going to be thurmond. the examiner will be the new commissioner per the paper. also, i'd like to thank greg's performance at park station in reference to the offshore shooting of a moving vehicle and also would like to make an apology. two weeks ago i mentioned an officer by name and accused him of possibly being guilty of a crime and read the paper that he wrote last week, "the bay view guardian." if he's exonerated would do a public apology. if that man is exonerated. i'm not using his name again, it's not polite. i will stand up here and apologize to that officer myself because i heard some

heat on the street, officer clyde, you don't know what you're talking about, you shouldn't say things like that. thank you. president mazzucco: thank you, clyde. next speaker. >> good evening, commissioners, my name is eric king, i'm here continuing on with the topic that brought me here going back to april 27. let's see, a bar girl chippy loses all of her money and i happen to witness her sign a complaint against the people who were trying to collect, and for some reason the powers that be deemed that my life is forfeit from that point forward. i disagree with that completely . when i filed my complaint with the o.c.c., i attached to my complaint some documents that i wanted them to read that would give them a background on the

complaint that i was filing. the documents were predominantly freedom of information act requests i had made to the department of justice. the o.c.c. closed my complaint without interviewing me, and only interviewed me after i pressed them to do so. they ruled information only, which is a foggy finding and they still would not give me definition of what they meant by that. during the course of the investigation, i told them about the three detentions i suffered at the hands of the san francisco police department and they claim they can only find one. so they would not investigate where the others -- what happened to the other two, and i find that kind of as a signal of the quality of the investigation that was conducted. you know, finally tonight i

want to say, if you knowingly and willingly engage in a malicious conspiracy against an individual and if that's a result of that conspiracy, the individual is stripped of a basic constitutional right, and if you know that, and if you do nothing to rectify the matter or to make amends to that individual, not only have you done a grave injustice to that individual himself, but you have also attacked and undermined the constitution itself. and in this country, that is addition, plain and simple. thank you for your time. president mazzucco: any further public comment? hearing none, call line item number 2. >> item number 2, reports and announcements, first up is 2-a, the chief's report, a report on crime statistics, a review of recent activities, a status report regarding special compliance and a report regarding police reserves

program. >> good evening, chief, how are you? >> i'm good. >> good evening, commissioners. violent crime continues to be down in san francisco. it's down 8%. property crimes are up about 5% but that's down over the last 30 days from 6%. overall crime is up 2% but there's a margin of error so effectively is flat when matched against last year. i do want to say that i know that there was a mention in the paper when we had our most recent homicide that we were having an uptick in homicide but put that in perspective, we're at about 26 homicides year to date, which is higher than last year, but at this time year to date in 2008, we were 48. so we're still down dramatically. we're enjoying our third year, they say a third year is a trend, so we're definitely trending down from those four or five years where we were

brushing near 100 annually. so i think, again, huge credit goes to the rank and file and the -- everybody assigned to the police department working very closely with the community to figure it out together. i think that that's actually been the recipe for this downturn in violence. as far as the other two reports go, i'm going to defer to lieutenant -- where did he go? to lieutenant paraon the reserves and patrol. >> thank you, chief, good evening, lieutenant parra. >> good evening, president, commissioners, chief, citizens, i'm henry parra, the liaison for the patrol specials as well as the liaison for the police reserves. i do have a sergeant that is assigned to the police reserves. unfortunately, he's been on disability for the last 10 days. he's strictly responsible for monitoring the police reserves. first of all, i want to let you know the status of the patrol

specials, under the direction of field operations bureau, i've moved my hours to ensure to monitor compliance with the patrol specials to determine if they've been following the rules. i will have to be honest with you and tell you essentially all of them have been strict compliance with everything we've come up with. the only people we have problems with were the people that had difficulties obtaining the right holster, called level 2 holsters. i've determined -- i've given them an extension of 30 days because we have a hard time getting the new holsters for old guns that they're carrying. so also, at the patrol stations, i've reviewed police lineups of information bulletin 11-094 that i indicated last time i reported to the police commission to inform the officers of the rules and regulations that the patrol officers are required to follow. i've received two calls from the officers's inquiries to

what they're allowed to have in their vehicles and i've examined both those vehicles. so we're very successful. also, too, mr. allen byard of the association has been extremely cooperative making weekly contacts with me to determine how he can assist me. is there any questions about the patrol specials? if not, i'll go into the reserves. president mazzucco: that's great news. >> also some bullet points, we currently have 33 active reserves in our patrol -- in our reserve program. again, sergeant craig tom is the o.i.c. administrator. he works 10:00 to 8:00 p.m. at night. we have 24 level ones, five level twos, four level threes. all that means is that the training that they have in regards to their credentials, they're predominantly assigned to the patrol division and volunteer -- they're required

to volunteer approximate 16 hour as month. the majority of them volunteer between 30 to 60 hours a month. there are assigned to the district stations and disseminated within the 10 district stations. they are currently two test dates that we have in accepting applications and a test process for the police reserves. that is in march and in september. we have 61 active applicants that are waiting for the next test that is quickly approaching. quickly, i want to finish up letting you know how many hours in 2010 that the police reserves volunteered. 2010, 13,385 hours. in 2009, 11,600. i will have to honestly say that the people i've met in this reserve program are

extremely dedicated in what they do. i have people that are doctors, pilots, plumbers, electricians, convenience store owners that are very dedicated into what they do and enjoy what they do. i've received, in 2010, our records indicate no o.c.c. or management control complaints. in 2009, one complaint. originated. the only uniform disseminates them between a reserve and patrol officer is a little "r" over their badge. and that's my conclusion. can i entertain any questions? president mazzucco: with reference to the reserves they go through the academy on their own and we test them and hire them. what type of training do we provide to the s.f. police department after they've come to us? >> that's correct. they send themselves through the academy. the basic academy is 990 hours. the department gives them four hours of training per month, usually a parishable skill as

in low frequency, high liability issues such as firearms, takedowns, baton training, laws of arrest or procedures. they also -- also during the summertime we try to unplug them, the availability of the police academy, to a more thorough four-hour block to two 16-hour days and depends on the availability of the police academy. >> are we actively recruiting reserves at this point especially in light of what we heard from mr. delanus' soon to be shortage. >> yes, we're constantly recruiting the reserves. we see that some departments that lay off employees, a way for those employees to keep their active post credential, standardized training credentials and is for them to volunteer their time. unfortunately, sometimes other departments steal them from us. and i don't have an explanation for that other than the department is a little faster

on the switch in getting the paperwork and getting things done and getting them through the process. >> great. president mazzucco: any questions for lieutenant parra. good. thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> thanks. 2-b. >> next is item 2-b, the o.c.c. director's report, a review of recent activities. >> good evening, director hicks, how are you? >> i'm fine, president mazzucco, thank you. members of the audience, the o.c.c. has no actives to report this evening. president mazzucco: any questions for lieutenant hicks. >> nice hair. >> thank you. president mazzucco: item 2-c, please. >> the commission reports, the commission president's report followed by the commissioner's reports. president mazzucco: i don't have anything to report this evening. commissioners, you have anything to report? >> just that we attended the funeral service for the two firefighters and it was very touching event and there were

thousands of people there, including our governor and mayor, and of course our chief. president mazzucco: i saw you and commissioner dejesus there and it's the public safety family, it was nice to see the commissioners there and such he served with the command staff and was a very moving ceremony and to honor our fallen heroes, those firefighters so we appreciate it. commissioners, anything else? line item 2-d, please. >> item 2-d are the commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at future commission meetings. president mazzucco: commissioners? commissioner chan: the update on the c.i.t. and progress of the program. i think it's this month we're supposed to give this update, so i've asked to schedule it for next wednesday on the calendar and hopefully it will be on there. great. and there will be several members of the c.i.t. working group, including the department presenting on where they are

with the curriculum. they've been working really hard and we had a c.i.t. working group today and it was a great discussion and i'm looking forward to them presenting to the group. the next piece is community policing. i know commissioner kingsley talked about that, the chief has talked about that and i want to propose we schedule this on our calendar maybe over the next month or so. maybe three or four weeks from now so there's time to prepare for it and for us to have a meeting really centered around that, some ideas put on the plate is discussing a definition of policing. i'm not a big fan of having too long of a discussion about that because i'm not into semantics and i think we should try to define it in a useful way and as general as possible so it's a useful, flexible definition. i think commissioner marshall had that suggestion. but i wanted to focusous on the next steps, how the department can prioritize community policing or continue to prioritize community policing and also to highlight great community policing partnership and perhaps even give out awards to community organizations or department

members who are engaging in this process already and use them as an example to spread this through the department. that's my proposal. i'm wondering what the other commissioners think and if the chief thinks that's a good idea. president mazzucco: chief? >> there will be the committee that will be arriving in general order for submission to this commission before september 15. their first meeting is next week. we've already spoken with supervisor campos's office that was designing an ordinance, various community groups, members of the department. it will be at the police academy. i can get you the date and time to any interested commissioners to audit. the drafting of this order, there will be meetings in the community, meetings with electeds, meetings with the officers, input from the peg groups in hopes of making this department policy, all of which