plan about language orientation. i really want to urge the we focus on these detailed plans for honors differentiated instructions, specialization, because of the feedback i am getting is the families want to know is what they can expect from a particular and middle school three or four years down the line, so i think that is really important in planning. on the transportation issue, i think it is worth mentioning that we have a good analysis of how long it takes and how many transfers, but there is also an expense involved, so this is an argument in favor of neighborhood schools.

we are talking about $20 a month times nine months, so that is $180, and if you have two kids in middle school, that is $360. gooour leadership and works cloy to make a fast passes free to students. i did not know how long that can continue, so i think it is important to note that we are asking families for additional expense in their planning, and the question i have is first we lay out the processes on page 12, the transition and full implementation. my question is about the second

and third round, because i think when you have here is what happens during an initial assignments and tiebreakers, but i got a lot of feedback from families who suddenly realized they were not going to be at the top of the line for around two or round three, so i would like some elaboration about the initial stage and what happened subsequently. my second question is about program placement and my firm belief that one of the successful strategies is soon -- to replace language programs in schools, and i would like to

ask -- we have an opportunity to bring the program. i do not know that we are making a pitch for strong music. my final question is we have some families saying they do not want to go to hoover, and the staff responsive and suggestion for families who would do the right thing and give people access to middle schools who may not necessarily be in their curriculum -- what would you say to these families?

>> on the first question about the program, as we were designing the system, we found one of the greatest inequities' about the old system is a prioritized on time applicants. choice is not mentioned as . tuesday with the same set of priorities all the time -- to stay with the same set of

priorities all the time, it would reduce the opportunity or incentive to put a fine choices -- to put down choices they might not want. the program placement fees -- piece i will not be able to elaborate on except that you were suggesting how can we make sure that all of our schools are attractive and what do we need to do to provide that opportunity to families? i think it is part of a broader discussion they are having in looking at what are the changes we need to make. in terms of monroe and some of the families not wanting to go to hoover, i think that is one of the features to going first with a choice that is going to

increase transparency and provide an opportunity for greater accountability with the district as well. until now, your customers are basically anyone who this view was a choice. we will be able to anticipate -- anyone who listens to you as a choice. we will be able to anticipate, follow up with parents, get a deeper understanding, and it provides an infrastructure that is going to make it a lot easier to have a deeper understanding of why schools are more appealing are less appealing, and because of this choice, they will not have to list it as a choice, and we will be able to see what they are telling us about a parent's desire and how our system is working. >> is it possible that the 622

applicants in the middle school is actually 662, because you said there were 622 carrier -- there were 622. is that the arch will number -- the actual number? that means every applicant got a school they requested. that means it is working. good >> what affect is it having on the system? it is working in terms of being a revised. -- being prioritized. >> i do not know if anything --

anyone has anyone else they would like to say. >> i would like to talk about elementary schools, but really about the review we were going to do on an annual basis. i believe what we agreed upon was also that we would look ratner -- look at our overall policy also, so what i am seeing is an annual analysis. we'll get -- we looked at the areas, having changed, and what does that tell us thomas -- what does that tell us?

it is a rapidly changing demographic with new housing developments in jamestown. 1147 new units, so we see a rapid change of demographics in that this still means there are students that i believe are underperforming, so also when we were saying we want to monitor itsel about what our student society process is hitting in terms of goals, so when i see some of these guidelines for the

review, i wonder about the measures we are using to use student assignment. after we heard you have over a certain percentage of a certain population, it is much more difficult to get over the systemic policies that make it harder for schools to actually have higher achievement. buwe heard from our sandford folks, and i think we heard it from our own research and accountability is curator of we saw a lot of staff on it. -- accountability. we saw a lot of data on it.

it is really the whole process in general, because we have heard so much information. we knew we cannot get to exactly where we want it. i want to know about that. when i think about what makes schools more attractive, i would like to think they close the achievement gap. we stood also look to things of help us close the gap, -- that would help us close the gap. and we were looking at keeping than in mind.

-- keeping that in mind. is it a school that is equitable in the school? are we trying to reach all students? i'd think i am wondering is whether this evaluation is monitoring the measures, the goals. this is such a small piece of it, but this tells us much more about how the student assignment process is helping us meet the goals of our student assignment plans but also our strategic plans. >> i was just asking about those furs their egos -- asking about

those areas. they make it a responsibility to look at those things and actually decide if we want to change them for the coming year. that is the responsibility, and of course we are voting on the feeder half turns, so we want an update. -- feeder patterns, so we want and of faith. this is about monitoring and having the board members come through. i do not know if we are specific enough about the testing things we would like to be monitored. i would like to have more information about the students and how the process works when

we have the-so, there are other the yanks -- other things. i am assuming that is the overall suggestion. i am presuming that is what the monetary -- monitoring committee will do. that is their corn job. >> they are the advisor rich commission -- the advisory commission. we are sure they are doing it on a voluntary basis.

we are going to share if and suggest feedback the superintendent will be able to bring forward. i think a lot of commissioners have asked questions about the policy itself, but we will be able to work with the feedback, and we will be able to share what we are recommending, and if we want new commissioners to make suggestions, but i think in terms of your question of general feedback, i have gotten a general sense, and we can keep the dialogue going and in august finalized questions. >> i have one subjects i would like to put on the table, just

to reiterate one thing i think we need to explore, but we need to find a way to monitor and do research with the results of aren't on system and give some -- of our own system and to give evidence of feedback is the actual choices that our families are making. i think we were surprised we did not see a different pattern of choosing this year. people have to understand it is really true that the pattern

look at the same as before they have a preference, so i am the committee will be exploring if they have an idea of what we might need to know, because certainly we cannot know more about how it works over time, -- we can know more about how it works. unless somebody says different, i think we want to cancel the meeting into live. i want to point out the meeting in august is before the first school board meeting, which is ok with me, but as time goes by, if staff has an issue with that, maybe we will want to consider

the, although it took awhile to 7 on those days. it should be noted -- to change those days. it should be noted that will be our first meeting of the board. thank you. the meeting is adjourned.

supervisor kim: hello and welcome to the rules committee. my name is supervisor kim. we are joined by supervisor elsbernd and supervisor farrell. the clerk today is linda wong. the committee would like to acknowledge the staff at sfgtv, who record the meetings in the transcripts available online. i want to thank jennifer and nona. are there any announcements? >> yes, the items on the agenda today will go to the full board on tuesday, june 28, unless otherwise indicated. supervisor kim: thank you. please call item one. >> sent to consider appointing one member, a term ending january 21, 2013, to the veterans affairs commission. there is one seat and one applicant. supervisor kim: i believe the one applicant has withdrawn her application. >> that is correct. supervisor kim: thank you. we will open it up for public

comment. seeing none, public, disclosed. is there a motion to file this item? without opposition, this motion is not file. madam clerk, call item two. >> considering appointed one member, a term ending december 31, 2011, to the western soma citizens planning task force. there's one seat and one applicant. supervisor kim: the clerk's office informed us that this appointment does not require a hearing, because it is an appointment by the district 6 supervisor and myself. so we will not be having a hearing. but if there's any public comment on this item. seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues, may we filed this item? without opposition. thank you. please call item 3. >> hearing to consider appointing one member, a term ending december 31, 2013, to the developmental disabilities area board 5. there is one seat and one

applicant. supervisor kim: i believe mess donna adkins it -- i believe ms. donna adkins is here. briefly tell us about your experience. i know you have already been serving. thank you for your service. briefly talk about your experience and background and your interest in continuing to serve. maybe a little bit about what you hope to work on in your next term. >> thank you for the opportunity to speak. i have served on the board for the past almost three years. the past year as secretary of the board. working with community partners and agencies to try and get the word out around people with developmental disabilities and advocating for those peopmy pres working in both nonprofit and 4- profit areas, working with people with developmental disabilities, the san francisco area and in new mexico i started working in new mexico, and there

was a class action lawsuit to move people from -- two major institutions out into the community. it was quite an experience for me. it was mostly educating the public around what it would be like for them to be living with people with developmental disabilities. they found it was not really that much more different than living next door to you or i. working with partners, such as golden gate regional center, and doing case management. working with people to get them more community access to working with the school system to work on transition plans for people bridge transitioning from high school in today programs and aligning myself with those partners and helping with the transition. i had a particular interest in working with people with developmental disabilities that come into contact with the criminal-justice system. i spent two years in albuquerque working with the crisis intervention team, working with

police officers, giving them an additional 40 hours of training and around what to do if you come into contact with somebody who looks like they do not have a developmental disability and some key questions to the possibly ask them that may or may not tip you off to the fact that they may or may not be understanding the questions being asked of them. hopefully diverting those people the services that are more appropriate for them, rather than into the criminal justice system. so i have a particular passion for that. i want to end by saying i just left the equal rights advocates luncheon, and it occurred to me that they have been around -- i believe this is their 38th or 39th year. and listening to them speak about working on behalf of women and girls, i was thinking, wow, it would be great if an organization like that really did not have to exist. that is sort of how i feel about the council. it is important work, but it would be a really great thing if

it did not have to have its own sort of standards and rules and people advocating, because it would be the norm that we treat people the same as we would like to be treated. i would like to close by saying that in the advocacy work i do, i try to not focused image on the fact that i work with people with developmental disabilities, because then it seems like itu sets up the sort of likes and -- it sets upu setss and them." we're sitting presidents, and we need to think beyond working with people with developmental disabilities. it could be your mother or father. given in the tragedy in any of our lives, we could end up being a client of services, rather than the person providing services. thank you for the opportunity. supervisor kim: thank you. thank you for your service for the past three years. it is a regional body and is different from some of the other commissions we look at. we appreciate your representation. are there any questions?

at this time, we will open it up for public comment. seeing no public comment, public comment is now closed. colleagues, do we have a motion? >> motion to approve. supervisor kim: motion to approve ms. adkins positive recommendation from the full board, without opposition. thank you so much. madam clerk, call item number four. >> hearing to consider appointing one member, a term ending october 19, 2013, to the eastern neighborhood citizens advisory committee. there is one seat and one applicant. supervisor kim: thank you. ms. kristian ongoco is here today. same format, spend a couple minutes describing your background, your interest in serving on eastern neighborhood's citizen advisory committee. >> i am and urban planner and a soma resident.

i have been involved with the community and with many of the neighborhood groups. i hold a master's degree in public administration, as well as in urban planning. so i do have the experience and the familiarity with the land use and to the development issues. and since i do live in the neighborhood, , i would definitely love to be a part of the planning process, of managing the growth and the development of the eastern neighborhoods. my primary interest in this whole process would be transit access and pedestrian safety. supervisor kim: thank you. are there any questions for our nominee? i know that we have both met. you're one of my nominations for district 6, and thank you so much for being interested and wanting to serve. it is definitely a committee that has a good amount of work to do. and as well as overall planning

for a very important part of our city. so thank you. no questions, so we will open it up for public comment. come to the microphone. two minutes. >> good afternoon. i did not come here to talk about this issue. i am not commenting on the applicant. however, this task force had a meeting in the mission last month. three people showed up. that tells me that our current urban planning folks are not connected to our community to discuss these issues. when the planning department passed eastern neighborhoods, the stipulated the fact that they did not pay much attention to detail. that lack of attention to detail is being manifest as development projects move forward. we're seeing right now, 10 years after it began, the eastern neighborhoods crebs program will be finished in the next few years. the apollo program took nine years from inception to moon di