that we have to obey. and we have to balance the needs of a very changing the city that is very, very complex geographically. we do not have as many ethnic enclaves that are unbroken as we did even 10 years ago and 10 years before that. so there will be a lot of challenges before us, basically, you have to be able to put aside your own ideological beliefs and find out exactly what will be the conditions that can give every single san franciscan, no matter where they live, an equal chance at voicing their will. i participated heavily in the census effort of getting out the word. we assembled a team of people that came from the most conservative -- evangelical churches in the tenderloin and

down into former sex workers. that is what i would like to represent here. it is fitting that the current system has produced supervisor campos and supervisor elsbernd, people in very different out what's that are good representatives of their districts, and that is something that i wanted to say. i will answer any questions. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor elsbernd: i have observed you, watched you, listened to you for many years, and you are very passionate on a number of issues. and very well-informed on those issues. that said, a lot of those issues, at least in my memory, are largely kind of central city issues. district 6, district 8, district 9. tell me about your knowledge of the west side of the city? if you are on this committee, you'll have to talk about not just legal requirements but communities of interest in neighborhoods on the west side. >> one thing that the west side shares in common with the east side that many people do not understand fully is the fact

that they have large immigrant populations. irish, russian, and obviously a growing asian population. so i believe that is a good deal of commonality between the west side and the east side, more so than we read in the chronicle or the bay guardian. it is also the home of old school san francisco. right? the families and communities that have held on despite these changes and not moved out of san francisco, even when some of the economic conditions and other opportunities that they had had them exit to someplace like hayward. i think it is a crucial area. supervisor kim: could you tell us also where you have lived in san francisco and how long you have been a resident here. >> i have officially been a resident of san francisco since

1992, from the time of about late 1988 to 1992, i went back and forth between oakland, where i was born, and san francisco, or i was the caretaker for my uncle who was living in a senior building and living part-time with my aunt. but i official amid this my home in august of 1992. i have lived in the mission district and the marina and south of market very briefly. >supervisor kim: ok, to what you talked about how it is important to set aside your politics and ensure conditions to give everyone an equitable voice, whether you live on the west side the east side. can you talk a little bit about how you would kind of take this values on in the process of redistricting? >> i am certain that through this process, anybody is going to see an opportunity basically

to at the precinct or subtract the precinct. it would at favorable outcomes for the campaigns that they are working on -- i think that is wrong. it is basically, you have to look at the law. you have to balance and there will be compromises that have to be made. there will be adjustments that have to be made. and you have to balance that out to make sure that if, say, the mission is taking a few precincts, the district 8 is also getting consideration in that way. supervisor kim: ok, thank you so much. supervisor farrell: i have a question for you. you're in 94123 and district two. abby ever applied to many other boards or commissions -- have you ever apply to any other boards or commissions in city hall? if not, why are you here? >> about six years ago, seven years ago, i served on the

committee land trust task force with supervisor gonzales. i do not believe i have ever apply for anything else. so this was just -- i saw this as a real opportunity to make sure that there is the type of fairness and civic engagement, debate, and a healthier san francisco for the next 10 years. and, no, i am not running for anything, even dogcatcher for the next 10 years and probably beyond. i will leave that to you guys. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor elsbernd: i know you're not running. are you volunteering are working on any mayoral campaigns? >> he is coming also working on it john avalos' campaign, completely unpaid. supervisor kim: thank you. i already called up jason porth, but it is my understanding that gia daniller-katz is also year. i will call you up after jason porth.

good morning. >> good morning. jerrick, supervisors, my name is jason porth, and thank you for the opportunity to address the committee. i worked as seven years as a civil rights attorney and provided counsel in eviction meetings for the homeless advocacy project. a significant part of my legal training was as an advocate for domestic violence survivors and on cases dealing with civil liberties, death penalty, and civil rights in education. i now resentence is this the university. for serving as the university's community relations officer and currently is due to the chief of staff to the president. for three years, i served as president of the jewish democratic club, is city-wide club with members in each and every supervisor districts. like two of my co-applicants, i am an alumnus of leadership san francisco. in all these roles, i have served as a negotiator untypically as consistent -- consensus-builder, working to

find agreement among groups with divergent and passion that prospective screen no -- perspectives. i have translated the plans for change to neighborhood constituencies. i know the value of and firmly believe in a cohesive neighborhoods, represented by an elected leader of the board of supervisors. the task force must proceed with great care and a thorough understanding of the impact of drawing lines. the last redistricting task force united japan town into one district of this task force bears a responsibility to fulfil similar objectives and enter the city's residents will be represented by an individual aware of their concerns and committed. the task force will balance many factors. police of neighborhoods and districts, geography of our city, numerous communities of interest, and the legal protections to ensure that equal power of each vote is cast. it is a reasonable, fair-minded, and skill listener. i seek to help plan and include

a process that will gather many perspectives through public input and analyze the information provided by the census. thank you for considering me. supervisor kim: thank you. kathleen coll let -- supervisor elsbernd: let me start with a few questions. my knowledge of your work is san francisco state, and you're also an advocate before the university playground, the neighborhood out there. west side issues, you know those well. what is your knowledge of the east side? >> southwest state is relieve the city's university. we have run 23 headstart programs around the city and -- in every single supervisor real district. we're educating the city's work force and making sure that the university is in the position to provide people to fill the jobs that the city needs to move forward. my knowledge of the city has grown far beyond just district 7. as president of a club

interested in issues across district lines, i have come to know the city quite well as well. supervisor elsbernd: as i said, i know your work through san francisco state and throughout wallenberg. it was an education looking at your resume and learning your work as a civil rights attorney. that is new to me. >> after retreating from northeastern university law school in boston, where focused on domestic violence advocacy issues and civil rights in education issues, i went to work for small law firm in oakland. after internships at the american civil liberties union and other civil rights organizations. supervisor elsbernd: you throw out the civil rights division in the department of justice. they're typically the entity that sometimes challenges district lines. did you have any exposure to work like that? >> this was specifically in the department of education.

so we dealt more with issues involving k-12 and higher education. after coming to san francisco in 1999, i started working in a small civil rights firm in oakland, and that transferred to a seckel civil rights from the representing plaintiffs in employment discrimination cases, wages, and accommodation that is. a family of five for housing is not granted the housing, either because of the size of their family or because they are a person of color, same-sex couple, things along those lines, as an example. ultimately, i decided to leave the practice of law to go to sf state, because i recognize that yes or more of a consensus- builder and an advocate in that regard than i was comfortable in working in a very different perspective, were often the only outcome we were able to achieve was a check to our client. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor farrell: thank you.

good to see you, jason. i know your work mostly through wallenberg. as you think about redistricting and we talk about communities of interest, how do you view religious institutions and faith in terms of redistricting and what role that might play? >> thank you for that question. first, if you look at the u.s. history of social movements and also across the world, people are often guided by their values and their principles, which often are faith-based. that is why i have been so involved with wallenberg over the years. i believe firmly in the things i have talked about, and making sure everyone has an equal vote. i worked on these issues. the role that states play in one's life is often to inspire one to make positive social change. that is how i find value in my faith as well and how i found

value through wellenberg, too. people can unite around commonalities that they share. that is why it is important to protect communities of interest, so they can elect a leader that will understand their perspectives and ultimately represent them well at city hall. supervisor farrell: have your reply to other commissions here in city hall? if not, why this one? >> this is the first one. this one, really, i find it extremely compelling. i recognize how important it is. my term as president ends a week from today, so i will have a lot more time than i did before hand. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor elsbernd: i have a question that maybe supervisor kim was going to ask. i know you have young children. are you going to have time to do this? >> my family is extremely supportive of my involvement in the community, and i certainly will. supervisor kim: thank you. seeing that you have been active with a political club, what are

some of the major issues that the club has worked on or that has been a priority for the club over the past few years? >> great question. looking forward to what we're doing next week when i go out of office, we will be hearing about pension reform. it is an event i am very excited about. there are issues that unite us as a jewish community that the club has taken on. most recently, we have been working on the proposal to ban circuses in -- circumcision in san francisco. that has united our club quite seriously. when i became president of the club, we work on other issues as well, going back as far as holding quorums on care not cash. we would meet with anyone supporting any office. our tax process that the club is involved in it really brings people in on issues far beyond religious or fate is used as well. supervisor kim: could you name some other issues in the past that the club has worked on?

>> yes, project homeless connect, on homelessness issues. we were very interested in being involved in that. we have done voter registration and education. we have had a forum where recently as well things. we have a broad approach to see what happens in san francisco. supervisor kim: you also advocate on issues. do take positions? or there any major initiatives that were important to the club, besides the besidesban, -- besides the circumcision ban? >> none come to mind immediately. but once the club takes the position on able specific perspective, it does advocate for that position. correct. supervisor kim: i want an understanding of your understanding of the city as a whole. were you have lived and how long. >> moved here in 1999. my wife and grew up here in the

late roy said area. that is what brought us back to san francisco. we looked originally in the richmond district. now live in lakeside. supervisor kim: what are some important principles or values that you would consider their your decision making process on the redistricting committee? >> the primary one is ensuring that communities of interest do not lose any ability to elect a person to the board of supervisors. i -- by community of interest, it can be ethnic communities. it can be populations that are drawn together and lived near one another. it can be merchants' associations and other want to interact with city hall. protecting those communities, recognizing the neighborhoods that make up san francisco and finding value in the strength of the city in the neighborhoods and how they are comprised is a key component of how i would

approach the process. i think that would really be informed by a very broad approach to getting as many people involved in the process as possible. a different question that raised some thoughts with me was how do we make sure that we're hearing from as many people as possible? i know that there are about two or three meetings in every supervisor district. they often met in the evenings and the weekend. that is a fabulous approach. meeting in the middle of the day will not serve anybody will. they would often received things via fax. of course, receiving input through as many social media as possible, through as many ways as you could drop in those communities of interest to hear where people need to be heard. supervisor kim: thank you. are there any other questions or comments? cnn, thank you very much. we will go back to gia daniller- katz. after gia, jenny lam.

>> good morning. thank you for including me. my name is gia daniller-katz, and i am here today because i would love the opportunity to serve as a member of the redistricting task force and to serve the city in committee in this way. my interest in the special assignment stems from my passion for san francisco, a deep commitment to community involvement, as well as community engagement. i have interests in all things political. i have been actively involved in civic affairs in san francisco and with various community and political organizations for the past 15 + years. i worked in areas around urban planning, environmental issues, women's issues, and have been very involved in the jewish community. i am a past president, like my

good friend and colleague, adjacent p -- jason porth, in the club. i am running a small business providing government and community relations consulting services. what i wanted to highlight for you is the fact that i have considerable experience in the community outreach fund and also a very strong group process person. having either chaired or staffed numerous volunteer-led efforts and committees over the years. i also wanted to communicate the fact that i would not be coming to this effort with any preconceived notions or specific agendas regarding the redistricting process. to work with the full range of stakeholders is my goal, and to work with communities in constituencies to make the process as effective and

empowering for the city as a whole as possible. i know time is short, and i want to thank you for your consideration and say that i very much look forward to opportunities to work with all of you. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor elsbernd: let me be real blunt and direct. you are a registered lobbyist. how is it going to look for the board to appoint a registered lobbyist to this committee? i am sure it is sending you have thought about. >> you know, it is interesting, because i recently registered. a lot of the work i have done in the past with the government did not fall under the rules. and then i felt, recently, that that was something that was important to do. you know, is sending that i have thought about, and i guess i have sort of the economy in my head. because i consider myself a community leader and someone who

has really been involved in the grass roots. and i am confident that my work would not influence or the influence in terms of perception. i guess i would say that i would hope that people would see folks not sort of as one part of who they are, one label, but really take into account their record and their years of involvement and commitment, and judge them on their actions and how they conduct themselves. integrity and transparency are extremely important to me. supervisor kim: to what. i have a follow-up. i notice that your work is on government relations, public affairs. you do work around advocacy to government, political strategy. what are some of the projects you are currently working on? >> so some of the things i am currently working on are not necessarily on the local level,

not necessarily local lobbying. i am very involved in working for a large social service provider. the work that i do for them, a jewish family civil services, is actually more on the state level, helping tried to fight some of these budget the work there has been working with lots of different emigrant communities. supervisor kim: who were you doing lobbying with? >> i also represent on the state level and organization in the of north bay that ranges membership more sort of public affairs, educating their members would jar public and nonprofit called the north bay leadership council. i started working at chase bank, helping them with land-use approvals as they started to

expand their presence in san francisco. supervisor kim: thank you. >> i also worked for public agencies doing community outreach work. i worked on high-speed rail project and that kind of stuff. supervisor farrell: that was my line of questioning also. supervisor kim: thank you. next we have jenny lam. >> a good morning, supervisors. thank you for the opportunity to share with you my interest and passion for serving on the redistricting task force. i have lived in san francisco for 14 years with the majority of those years of levin -- living in district 8. i am a proud at san francisco public school parent and committed to raising our family here in the city. san francisco is our home.

as you see from my application, i have dedicated my professional life to working in the community with a variety of backgrounds working directly in social- service programs, to education, women's rights, advocacy and policy. i am the director of community relations at chinese affirmative-action and i'm proud of our work last year around the census. we were one of the leading organizations binding and that yes we count coalition which brought together 13 organizations looking to having deep roots in the community and injuring an accurate count in hard to count communities. in just a short amount of time, 13 organizations were able to reach 50,000 residents and i am proud that in san francisco, we

were seen challenging trends and we saw an increase in our ability from 2000-2010, saving the city tens of millions of dollars over the next 10 years. from that process, i was able to demonstrate collaboration between community, the city of san francisco, and working with the u.s. census bureau. we have a deep background and history in the civil rights movement, being founded over 40 years ago. in 2002, we were very much involved in redistricting and we continue to have access to resources to voting rights laws as well as statewide redistricting that is currently happening. on a personal level, what i would bring to the task force is insuring it is an inclusive process and my leadership is founded to the values of

integrity and fairness. i have also demonstrated that i'm a collaborator, willing and open to working with communities of all of san francisco. i am particularly -- i was struck with the article that we are seeing families leave san francisco. that is very much a concern for me. that is what i would bring to the task force, not only looking at the past and present of san francisco, but how key this redistricting task force will play in the future of san francisco. supervisor elsbernd: you have access to a lot of information -- i think you said access to legal theory on redistricting issues. play out a scenario for made --

you get appointed and are on the commission. the city attorney will be your counsel. the city attorney provides legal advice on a particular issue that runs contrary to the opinion provided by your ca council. you are a commissioner of the city. which way do you go? >> ca is not a legal organization. we do not have any legal representation from the organization. we what have access to understanding what the voting rights law is and ensuring the rights of san francisco -- that would be my personal perspective as well as my ability to serve on the committee to understand how we are implementing within the law. supervisor farrell: to follow up on that, does the organization take positions on redistricting or advocate for certain policies within that?

>> we have, yes. in 2002, we were involved in local redistricting. we currently have not taken any position in redistricting on the statewide level. much of our focus last year was insuring there was a thorough and massive grass-roots effort in the count. supervisor farrell: you say the organization took positions. what positions might they have been? >> they were looking at ensuring that the various communities were represented in a way to protect certain interests of various populations throughout the city. supervisor farrell: as an example? >> looking at various lines being proposed within the southeast sector as well as the west side. supervisor kim: thank you.

you have a very impressive resume and a lot of -- i see you cochaired the quality in education task. thank you for that. you are also a parent. your ability to serve on this task force? >> over the last 10 years, i've been able to juggle my responsibilities for my home life to my professional life. i have a very important -- at a very supportive family who knows this is important to me and to the city. supervisor kim: you work in chinatown and attend school in district 5. could you talk a little bit about your knowledge as -- knowledge of the city as a whole? >> most of my community assessment has been through the schools and that has taken me to many parts of the city. living here 14 years and being

so active, i'm very familiar with the various needs and enjoyments of the city as well. supervisor kim: some of the things you would prioritize in its use of redistricting? >> areas of inclusiveness and fairness. that is what i would bring to this process. supervisor kim: you talked about being concerned about families leading san francisco and bringing that perspective to the redistricting task force. how does that perspective apply in redistricting? >> it is a personal passion of mine to understanding how is the demographics of san francisco changing and