francisco. i understand the city block by block. before making any sort of decisions, i would first taken to account the law and second -- maybe that is good or bad, i'm not sure. second, my experience. i just remember tracking people, whether by family or whatever, in this city -- every block is different. supervisor kim: i see that you have lived in various neighborhoods in the city. thank you very much. next, we have kathleen anderson. how are you. >> good morning, supervisors. like you, i love our city and have a great passion for making sure our government is working well for the residents of san

francisco. i have applied to the task force because i believe elections should be accessible to all people and through their right to the company feel empowered and have the chance to elect leaders at best represent them. i was a political science major at uc irvine and transferred to stanford and studied economics and statistics among other things. i came to san francisco in 1988 to attend do you see hastings and i have lived in five different districts in my 23 years here. as an attorney, working on employment discrimination cases, as a volunteer and board member working with some of the city's most vulnerable residents, and sensitive to the issues that face many san francisco and sue may feel disenfranchised. i have done that through my work with the homeless advocacy

project, legal services for children, city college of san francisco and the united way as some examples. i will bring many skills to this appointment -- a legal training in how to read legal documents. i am a team player. i like to build consensus. i have experience of volunteering for various elected officials, local, state and national. i have a willingness to listen to and work with differing opinions and try to build consensus. i am experience that building teams, legal advisers, regular folks, subject matter experts, which will be required as we take on the redistricting task. i have a strong understanding of san francisco's myriad committees -- communities from the most vulnerable to the most financially independent. i am comfortable living in every circle. i want to make sure it's an inclusive process. i'm an advocate and connector. i want to bring people together,

and power them and educate them. i would like to address a suggestion i have heard in the past that perhaps if you run for office you should not be selected for this. i would like each person to be considered on a case by case basis. in my case, i did not seek endorsements from a political party. in fact, had no endorsements. i applied for public financing. i ran because i believe regular folks and private citizens should have access to the electoral process beyond merely voting. i have no other motives. by running, i gathered valuable experience of how to address large groups of people, another skill that will be lead -- that will be needed on the task force. having been a canada, albeit a losing one, it prepared for this incredible job and i would be honored to serve. [tone] supervisor elsbernd: i agree.

i think see restriction on former candidates does not mix. it's not so much past candidacy that concerns me, it is future candidacy. i know he will not be running in four years, but are you going to run in eight years? >> that's a good question and i get all the time. i feel like this experience i had answered a personal question. do i want to seek elective office? i think as i stand here today, what it has taught me as i can still make a huge difference in my community in these various volunteer capacities and serving on boards. if i had the honor of working on the redistricting task force, that is such a monumental job and lasts for 10 years. on a personal level, that would satisfy me. i want to be involved in a way

that my time, treasurer and talent is best utilize the and i do not see myself running for lead office in the future. supervisor farrell: the one thing to talk about -- running for supervisor and you have also worked -- how do you view balancing between political persuasions? i view that as a positive as well. >> i anticipated the political spectrum question. it is hard to pinpoint me. i was able to work for her because i was pregnant and was put on bed rest. against my doctor's advice, had to leave my bedroom and find something to do. she was advertising to take

volunteers honor assembly office. i connected with her district manager really well. it was more a bonding with that person then with her. she was rarely in, but i did get be opportunities to speak on our behalf and deliver resolutions and ings like that. i got an amazing amount of experience and did jump-start my interest in local politics. she regarded me as her pet moderate. i am kind of a yuppie, a stuffed shirt looking person but embedded in so many different communities, she had the wisdom to understand she needed all types in her office. she is a supporter, not a mentor. that is -- i love talking with

everyone, i love the engagement. even people who differ from me. i respect people's opinion. i respect different people's opinions, but she does not persuade me. supervisor kim: could you talk about priorities are values that would guide you through your decision making process in redistricting? >> #one are the legal requirements. we have to work with the charter, the voting rights act and things like that. as an attorney, i will be mindful of what is our task legally. logistically, it is about engaging with the public and being sure we ask the right questions and require the right information from the subject matter experts. understanding communities of interest. i would be very process- oriented, making sure we collect

the right information and making sure we hear from everyone and making sure everyone is respected and represented. it is not a place for partisan politics. it is about putting the right pieces of the puzzle together and making sure everyone in san francisco has a voice. even those who do not have a chance to vote should have representation and a voice. you can see the work i do with children and emigrants. supervisor kim: i do think there are questions about individuals who run or may run in the future. even 10 or eight years, somebody asked me if i is going to run for board of supervisors, i would have not understood the availability -- also want to understood there are a citywide seat.

i am very cognizant that may be a possibility. thank you for your time. >> i appreciate that this is a difficult task and a lot of great candidates. supervisor kim: next, we have mr. keith baraka. >> thank you. i am a firefighter. i have been a firefighter for 14 years in san francisco. i live in district 8. as a graduate of ohio state university, i excelled in and thoroughly enjoyed every class having to do with statistics. i love maps and find them fascinating. i always been interested in facts, figures and data. in my job as researcher for the

public utilities commission of ohio, was in charge of reporting on an energy assistance program, so i am familiar with about a leading populations and statistical representations'. as an investigator, i was charged with investigating residential complaints across the state. an ever-present component of regulation. at the public interest center, was my job to make sure the public was well informed and represented an heard throughout the regulatory process. in my job as a firefighter, i interact with the public on each and every call i make. i am quite adept at interfacing with the public at large. in conclusion, as -- i have

always been taught the importance of being part of the political process. i want to serve on the restricting task force to further this command give back to san francisco all of the amazing things it has given to me. i do not seek this position to pad a resume or obtain another rung on a political ladder. i just want to serve because i am an independent thinker, a regular guy just out to make a difference in the community i live and work. a person wants to achieve a fair, lawful and unbiased restructuring of our district. thank you vesupervisor kim: tha supervisor elsbernd: i'm trying to ask about potential appearance issues. i wonder if you could address your role as a firefighter. members of the board take positions firefighters don't necessarily like -- a 48 hour work week, fire station issues,

things like that. you will be on the redistricting task force. how do you balance the potential conflict? >> that is my professional role. i see this role completely outside of that. an impartial one that i take very seriously. it's important to maintain the integrity of the laws surrounding redistricting and it is important to listen to what the people have to say. my job as a firefighter has nothing to do with this position at all. supervisor elsbernd: in your role as a firefighter, where have you been stationed? >> i have been stationed all over the city. i have worked in almost every of the 40 plus houses we have in this city. i currently work in the castro, but my position prior to that was in the sunset. i have worked all over. supervisor elsbernd: selling comes to knowing all of the various neighborhoods of the

city -- >> i'm fairly familiar with that. on a one-to-one basis and not a community level as well. supervisor kim: i know you are very active in the community. can you talk about your ability to balance current commitments with being under districting task force? >> i am a firefighter, so i do work 24-hour shifts. i am a single game and then have a little extra time on my hands. i don't have -- i am a single gay man and have extra time on my hands. that allows me the opportunity to donate time i would need to this task force. supervisor kim: in your role on the alice toklas democratic club, which beat campaigning in the mayor's race this year? >> i am personally supporting someone and i will eventually

endorse someone, but that person has yet to be determined. supervisor kim: who are you supporting for mayor? >> [unintelligible] enthusiastically, i might add. supervisor kim: hopefully he'll be later -- he will be here later to speak on your behalf. thank you for your time. we have maria lup arreola. >> good morning, supervisors. thank you for having us here to speak with you. i have been working in serving san francisco for over 10 years.

i worked as a city employee working to investigate and mediate complaint oliver san francisco and public accommodations. i live in district 9, probably for over five years. now i live in district 4 for the last year and half which has given me a different perspective of the city. working with residents all over the san francisco i feel has amplified my knowledge of the issues of this city and what is needed in this city as well as well in for my decisions about my work in this city as well as if i were to be elected on the redistricting task force. my work on and zoning and policy has allowed me to understand the

impact of citywide changes and be objective and fair and willing to see other positions. we are talking about city-wide changes that are going to affect all people. we have to see beyond our own interests to see the needs of people living in the city. i feel redistricting is very important because a lot of impact on the representation, resources and who will vote where, who cannot vote and who made it -- and who may be disenfranchised. whoever is chosen for this task force will need to be fair, focused and objectives. my experience of living and working in districts, working with a diverse community, not just in terms of race and ethnicity and didn't come up professional background will be valuable. if you have any questions, i

will be happy to answer them. supervisor elsbernd: i thought u.s. your standard question which is appropriate -- why this commission? why this one? >> i have not applied, have served before on the advisory committee for several years. i served on that committee for the same reason applying to this one. i really believe it is important to be involved in issues that affect people city-wide. i feel for districting is a very important issue that will have the impact in years to come and one that i think is very important to be able to have a clear voice on. as someone from an immigrant family and as someone who grew up working class and as someone who is now a city employee and living in san francisco, i feel all those issues are ones we need to look at what we look redistricting in terms of

looking out for all of those populations as well. i do not have plans to run for any future office. i have no plans on running in the future. supervisor kim: you mentioned that he lived in the mission and a sunset which are two very different parts of the city. can you talk about how your work and residency has informed your knowledge of the breath of the city and the issues the city faces. >> living in the district -- in the mission district and sunset district has given me a sense of the broader working-class community of san francisco. living in the mission district and working with mostly latino immigrants, i was focused on the service industry and issues having to do with day laborers and people or more lower working

class. seeing a lot of people coming into my office, i am seeing a lot more issues of the middle- class, definitely more long term working class, issues coming up there -- the discrimination issues, i don't discriminate along any of those lines, i've been more on the differences of incomes and that is how people with working in class -- people with working- class incomes but also racial and ethnic lines, i'm getting to know a lot more about the asian- american community and the russian community living in the sunset and there is definitely an upcoming latino community coming up in the sunset district as well so that has made me very keen on the demographic changes in san francisco.

supervisor kim: some of your values that would guide you through the redistricting process? >> looking at issues of how working-class communities are represented in their district is very important than looking to see those communities are being equally represented in all districts, that is definitely the community being a lower in columbus and all the ones that are most driven out of -- a lower income and those are the ones being most driven out of san francisco. for communities to cannot vote for several reasons, whether it it be prior records, i think those communities are also key in making decisions for their districts even if they cannot vote so i definitely want to see their representation definitely be taken into account as you are looking at redrawisupervisor kiy

much. next, i am calling mike alonso. >> i have not endorsed anyone yet for mayor. [laughter] i think i should at least give it a few months before make that kind of decision. i am not running for any political office, thank god. in my professional life, and a security guard. i understand what it's like to be a supervisor because you are the first one everyone runs to endure the first one everyone crops on. -- you are the first one everyone runs to and you are the first one everyone craps on. i live in the sunset. sacred heart cathedral. sorry to tell you that -- fighting irish right here.

[laughter] i am also proud graduate -- i am a proud graduate of san francisco state university and a proud graduate of new college law school and i am working as a security guard. it's just the economics of the time here in the city. i don't complain, and is happy i've got a job. this is the first commission i've ever tried to apply for. i believe it is a commission that should be largely non- political. i believe we should have people who are highly educated like the good professor there. he obviously knows his stuff. i know my stuff to. i did learn under the great constitutional lot attorney --

we need people -- i forgot her name, but she was talking about being ignored. there are a lot of people in san francisco being largely ignored, being steamrolled. a lot of natives. commissions like this need educated people and we need laypeople who have absolutely no political ambitions, but have moral values of civic duty. i'm not part of any non-profit agency, not part of any union, and not part of any thing. i just want to be here to make sure there is a fair and just process, using my education and background and my intensive knowledge of the city. fire away at any moment. supervisor kim: thank you.

>> you mentioned you had not applied for any commission. why this one all the sudden out of the blue? >> it is definitely one of the more interesting ones. first of all, there are a lot of folks out here who feel ignored. we need to make sure people that have a true, vested interest in equal representation in this city are in charge of this commission. i have such an interest because like she says, we feel ignored. we are leaving the city in droves, especially if you decide to have children.

and it's a shame. this is a great town. it just seems to me that a lot of the things that were around when i was a kid are completely gone. the sense of community, kids growing up together, whether or not they went to sacred heart or st. ignatius, we were all playing ball together. that's the reason i'm interested. i believe we need laypeople like myself involved, actively involved. supervisor farrell: feeling disenfranchised, how is redistricting going to change that in your head? >> said the good question. if you look at the district map right now, it just looks like a jumbled up jigsaw puzzle. i fail to see how one little

block could be stretched out or make sections -- it looks like they're trying to divide individuals from a greater community at hand. there are problems in the city we have to address. there's a growing divide between those who are very wealthy and those who are very poor. that's something that has to be addressed. if it is not addressed, in 20 years' time, i truly believe we're going to have a lot of very old and very simple people living in san francisco and their nurses are going to come from davis city to take care of all of them. more and more families are leaving. why is it? we need that extra bedroom. where are you going to get that in this city? the better health care and better schools. all of that comes from

redistricting. we need to hear those voices. supervis kim: you mentioned looking at the map and saying it does not make a lot of sense. could you mentioned a couple where you felt like neighborhoods were being divided up and did not make sense to you? >> i could mention the inner sunset. i never saw their being a difference between that inner sunset and our son said. we have the same neighbors and went to the same school. -- their inner sunset and elder son said. but apparently there is a difference and like someone to explain it to me. supervisor kim: i used to live in the sun said. any other questions? thank you very much.

next, we have paul hogarth. >> the morning cause supervisors. i have lived in san francisco since 2004, having lived in districts 5 and 6. i have actually worked in san francisco for 11 years and i have been politically involved for the last 15 years. i was a political science major at uc-berkeley. i actually enjoyed studying maps and political demographics and a always had a passion for how folks get represented in these communities and the importance of redistricting and having fair minded folks who can take into account community feedback. my interest specifically in this position, why this redistricting commission and why this year, is that in my time in san francisco, i've worked almost exclusively at the tenderloin housing clinic, working as a community organizer color and

managing editor of the on-line web site. district 6 more than any other district will be changed more by this map. district 6 has to lose over 20,000 people. you need someone at the table of this commission is intimately familiar with that community and who can make sure the district gets a fair shot. but it's not just about district 6. if you look at this map, the population changes have not been uniform. the three districts that will have to shrink our six, 10 and 11. that means all the other districts are going to have to grow. we need a fair and inclusive process. i do have a political background and have been involved in campaigns before, but i pride myself on my independent the ability to work with and listen to people who may not agree with me. i absolutely commit to doing that as a commissioner. supervisor kim: any questions? supervisor elsbernd: