asked me if i is going to run for board of supervisors, i would have not understood the availability -- also want to understood there are a citywide seat. i am very cognizant that may be a possibility. thank you for your time. >> i appreciate that this is a difficult task and a lot of great candidates. supervisor kim: next, we have mr. keith baraka. >> thank you. i am a firefighter. i have been a firefighter for 14 years in san francisco. i live in district 8. as a graduate of ohio state university, i excelled in and

thoroughly enjoyed every class having to do with statistics. i love maps and find them fascinating. i always been interested in facts, figures and data. in my job as researcher for the public utilities commission of ohio, was in charge of reporting on an energy assistance program, so i am familiar with about a leading populations and statistical representations'. as an investigator, i was charged with investigating residential complaints across the state. an ever-present component of regulation. at the public interest center, was my job to make sure the public was well informed and represented an heard throughout the regulatory process. in my job as a firefighter, i interact with the public on each and every call i make.

i am quite adept at interfacing with the public at large. in conclusion, as -- i have always been taught the importance of being part of the political process. i want to serve on the restricting task force to further this command give back to san francisco all of the amazing things it has given to me. i do not seek this position to pad a resume or obtain another rung on a political ladder. i just want to serve because i am an independent thinker, a regular guy just out to make a difference in the community i live and work. a person wants to achieve a fair, lawful and unbiased restructuring of our district. thank you vesupervisor kim: tha supervisor elsbernd: i'm trying

to ask about potential appearance issues. i wonder if you could address your role as a firefighter. members of the board take positions firefighters don't necessarily like -- a 48 hour work week, fire station issues, things like that. you will be on the redistricting task force. how do you balance the potential conflict? >> that is my professional role. i see this role completely outside of that. an impartial one that i take very seriously. it's important to maintain the integrity of the laws surrounding redistricting and it is important to listen to what the people have to say. my job as a firefighter has nothing to do with this position at all. supervisor elsbernd: in your role as a firefighter, where have you been stationed? >> i have been stationed all over the city. i have worked in almost every of the 40 plus houses we have in

this city. i currently work in the castro, but my position prior to that was in the sunset. i have worked all over. supervisor elsbernd: selling comes to knowing all of the various neighborhoods of the city -- >> i'm fairly familiar with that. on a one-to-one basis and not a community level as well. supervisor kim: i know you are very active in the community. can you talk about your ability to balance current commitments with being under districting task force? >> i am a firefighter, so i do work 24-hour shifts. i am a single game and then have a little extra time on my hands. i don't have -- i am a single gay man and have extra time on my hands. that allows me the opportunity to donate time i would need to this task force. supervisor kim: in your role on

the alice toklas democratic club, which beat campaigning in the mayor's race this year? >> i am personally supporting someone and i will eventually endorse someone, but that person has yet to be determined. supervisor kim: who are you supporting for mayor? >> [unintelligible] enthusiastically, i might add. supervisor kim: hopefully he'll be later -- he will be here later to speak on your behalf. thank you for your time. we have maria lup arreola.

>> good morning, supervisors. thank you for having us here to speak with you. i have been working in serving san francisco for over 10 years. i worked as a city employee working to investigate and mediate complaint oliver san francisco and public accommodations. i live in district 9, probably for over five years. now i live in district 4 for the last year and half which has given me a different perspective of the city. working with residents all over the san francisco i feel has amplified my knowledge of the issues of this city and what is needed in this city as well as

well in for my decisions about my work in this city as well as if i were to be elected on the redistricting task force. my work on and zoning and policy has allowed me to understand the impact of citywide changes and be objective and fair and willing to see other positions. we are talking about city-wide changes that are going to affect all people. we have to see beyond our own interests to see the needs of people living in the city. i feel redistricting is very important because a lot of impact on the representation, resources and who will vote where, who cannot vote and who made it -- and who may be disenfranchised. whoever is chosen for this task force will need to be fair, focused and objectives. my experience of living and working in districts, working with a diverse community, not just in terms of race and ethnicity and didn't come up

professional background will be valuable. if you have any questions, i will be happy to answer them. supervisor elsbernd: i thought u.s. your standard question which is appropriate -- why this commission? why this one? >> i have not applied, have served before on the advisory committee for several years. i served on that committee for the same reason applying to this one. i really believe it is important to be involved in issues that affect people city-wide. i feel for districting is a very important issue that will have the impact in years to come and one that i think is very important to be able to have a clear voice on. as someone from an immigrant

family and as someone who grew up working class and as someone who is now a city employee and living in san francisco, i feel all those issues are ones we need to look at what we look redistricting in terms of looking out for all of those populations as well. i do not have plans to run for any future office. i have no plans on running in the future. supervisor kim: you mentioned that he lived in the mission and a sunset which are two very different parts of the city. can you talk about how your work and residency has informed your knowledge of the breath of the city and the issues the city faces. >> living in the district -- in the mission district and sunset district has given me a sense of the broader working-class community of san francisco. living in the mission district

and working with mostly latino immigrants, i was focused on the service industry and issues having to do with day laborers and people or more lower working class. seeing a lot of people coming into my office, i am seeing a lot more issues of the middle- class, definitely more long term working class, issues coming up there -- the discrimination issues, i don't discriminate along any of those lines, i've been more on the differences of incomes and that is how people with working in class -- people with working- class incomes but also racial and ethnic lines, i'm getting to know a lot more about the asian- american community and the russian community living in the

sunset and there is definitely an upcoming latino community coming up in the sunset district as well so that has made me very keen on the demographic changes in san francisco. supervisor kim: some of your values that would guide you through the redistricting process? >> looking at issues of how working-class communities are represented in their district is very important than looking to see those communities are being equally represented in all districts, that is definitely the community being a lower in columbus and all the ones that are most driven out of -- a lower income and those are the ones being most driven out of san francisco. for communities to cannot vote for several reasons, whether it it be prior records, i think those communities are also key in making decisions for their

districts even if they cannot vote so i definitely want to see their representation definitely be taken into account as you are looking at redrawisupervisor kiy much. next, i am calling mike alonso. >> i have not endorsed anyone yet for mayor. [laughter] i think i should at least give it a few months before make that kind of decision. i am not running for any political office, thank god. in my professional life, and a security guard. i understand what it's like to be a supervisor because you are the first one everyone runs to endure the first one everyone crops on. -- you are the first one

everyone runs to and you are the first one everyone craps on. i live in the sunset. sacred heart cathedral. sorry to tell you that -- fighting irish right here. [laughter] i am also proud graduate -- i am a proud graduate of san francisco state university and a proud graduate of new college law school and i am working as a security guard. it's just the economics of the time here in the city. i don't complain, and is happy i've got a job. this is the first commission i've ever tried to apply for. i believe it is a commission that should be largely non- political. i believe we should have people who are highly educated like the good professor there.

he obviously knows his stuff. i know my stuff to. i did learn under the great constitutional lot attorney -- we need people -- i forgot her name, but she was talking about being ignored. there are a lot of people in san francisco being largely ignored, being steamrolled. a lot of natives. commissions like this need educated people and we need laypeople who have absolutely no political ambitions, but have moral values of civic duty. i'm not part of any non-profit agency, not part of any union, and not part of any thing. i just want to be here to make sure there is a fair and just

process, using my education and background and my intensive knowledge of the city. fire away at any moment. supervisor kim: thank you. >> you mentioned you had not applied for any commission. why this one all the sudden out of the blue? >> it is definitely one of the more interesting ones. first of all, there are a lot of folks out here who feel ignored. we need to make sure people that have a true, vested interest in equal representation in this city are in charge of this commission.

i have such an interest because like she says, we feel ignored. we are leaving the city in droves, especially if you decide to have children. and it's a shame. this is a great town. it just seems to me that a lot of the things that were around when i was a kid are completely gone. the sense of community, kids growing up together, whether or not they went to sacred heart or st. ignatius, we were all playing ball together. that's the reason i'm interested. i believe we need laypeople like myself involved, actively involved. supervisor farrell: feeling

disenfranchised, how is redistricting going to change that in your head? >> said the good question. if you look at the district map right now, it just looks like a jumbled up jigsaw puzzle. i fail to see how one little block could be stretched out or make sections -- it looks like they're trying to divide individuals from a greater community at hand. there are problems in the city we have to address. there's a growing divide between those who are very wealthy and those who are very poor. that's something that has to be addressed. if it is not addressed, in 20 years' time, i truly believe we're going to have a lot of very old and very simple people living in san francisco and their nurses are going to come from davis city to take care of all of them.

more and more families are leaving. why is it? we need that extra bedroom. where are you going to get that in this city? the better health care and better schools. all of that comes from redistricting. we need to hear those voices. supervis kim: you mentioned looking at the map and saying it does not make a lot of sense. could you mentioned a couple where you felt like neighborhoods were being divided up and did not make sense to you? >> i could mention the inner sunset. i never saw their being a difference between that inner sunset and our son said. we have the same neighbors and went to the same school. -- their inner sunset and elder son said. but apparently there is a

difference and like someone to explain it to me. supervisor kim: i used to live in the sun said. any other questions? thank you very much. next, we have paul hogarth. >> the morning cause supervisors. i have lived in san francisco since 2004, having lived in districts 5 and 6. i have actually worked in san francisco for 11 years and i have been politically involved for the last 15 years. i was a political science major at uc-berkeley. i actually enjoyed studying maps and political demographics and a always had a passion for how folks get represented in these communities and the importance of redistricting and having fair minded folks who can take into account community feedback. my interest specifically in this

position, why this redistricting commission and why this year, is that in my time in san francisco, i've worked almost exclusively at the tenderloin housing clinic, working as a community organizer color and managing editor of the on-line web site. district 6 more than any other district will be changed more by this map. district 6 has to lose over 20,000 people. you need someone at the table of this commission is intimately familiar with that community and who can make sure the district gets a fair shot. but it's not just about district 6. if you look at this map, the population changes have not been uniform. the three districts that will have to shrink our six, 10 and 11. that means all the other districts are going to have to grow. we need a fair and inclusive process. i do have a political background and have been involved in campaigns before, but i pride myself on my

independent the ability to work with and listen to people who may not agree with me. i absolutely commit to doing that as a commissioner. supervisor kim: any questions? supervisor elsbernd: i thought you might have address them in your opening statement because a lot of the questions come together around you. so i will ask them. it is very clear your partisan. some members to agree with and some you don't. some will be running in the and there is no gray area. you support some members of the board and you oppose the members of the board. you support some candidates, you oppose some candidates. we are charged with putting forward transparent and open candidates. how do we justify appointing you? >> one of the hard things about

having written as much as i have is that you can't run from the record. you have upset people in the past two may agree with you. i was told before even applying for this that moderates are not going to want you to give you are progressive. progresses' are not going to want you because you are too independent. i may have supported candidates, but i am not going fourth to take sides in the types of conflict. one of the things that happened 10 years ago, frankly, is the map was drawn in such a way, and i followed this process 10 years ago, that the progressives got as good a of a map as they could have gotten 10 years ago. i don't know how possible that is this time around given the three districts that have to shed pounds at brown are going to be. i commit to being absolutely fair minded and inclusive in the process. i'm actually looking forward to

the community town hall meetings that the commission is going to have in the community and i will put more community cohesiveness. supervisor elsbernd: you have been very supportive of the chair of this committee and made very clear her district is going to change. >> yes. supervisor elsbernd: are you going to be able to separate your support for one candidate and whether they other candidates can shift away? >> yes. one of the reasons she was elected is because she got support from all parts of the district. when district 6 has to be cut apart, there's no question parts of the district will be taken out that happen to support her. i started looking at the map and i don't see how you shrink district 6 and not take away people who support jane kim. supervisor elsbernd: let's talk about housing clinic.

you receive far more money than the caa does. you need six of the 11 to vote for that. again, the appearance issue is very similar to what i asked mr. baraka. tell me how this passes the sniff test? one way or the other, you are going to politically benefit members of the board of supervisors. >> the tenderloin housing clinic is concentrated one district of the city? supervisor elsbernd: the decisions you make on the commission are going to politically benefit or politically hurt all 11 members of the board. how do you get past that conflict? >> i have already had conversations with some of the supervisors about what they want to see in the district and what they have said flat out is that to be fair and open-minded.

i'm not going to base that upon whether my employer happens to get funding. i look at that and i study the demographics and say we get feedback from outside community members. supervisor elsbernd: you just raised something i was not thinking about. you are already talking to members of the board. you are already more politically active than them fast majority of candidates. is that appropriate? should be talking to the community and not the people who have their own self interest in how those lines are drawn? >> i think it is appropriate. supervisor elsbernd: ok. supervisor kim: any other questions? one of the things i see in your background in working on demographics and numbers, could

you talk about that? >> i was involved specifically in the redistricting process, not intimately in san francisco, but in berkeley, 10 years ago. i moved to san francisco and was part of the political community in berkeley when we went through the redistricting process back then. it was a painstaking process where the map was drawn and the council approved the map and then folks who were not happy got a referendum and got it removed. we had to go back from scratch. i very carefully study does and making sure the various communities were being heard and considered fairly. as far as san francisco, i'm also on the board of the tenderloin north of market committee benefit association. that brings all stakeholders of business owners and residents and that is going to involve studying the demographics of

that micra community to make sure that goes fairly. supervisor kim: principles or values you would prioritize that would guide you through your decision making process on the redistricting task force? >> transparency, communities of interest, making sure that not only comply with the law on the issue of minority groups, but we also don't just do it because it is legal, but because it is fair and equitable. i have actually begun to read through the packets that the supervisors received. i downloaded it off the website and it is going to be a challenge, a question about it. one of the concerns a lot of people are making about the redistricting is the shrinking african-american population in san francisco. we only have one african- american supervisor now and that is in district 10. how do we insure the african- american community in the district and continues to have a strong of ways so they can elect

one of their own? it is going to be a tough job. there is no way around it. i'm committed to making sure we all communities heard. supervisor kim: any other questions? supervisor farrell: you work in district 6 and are very familiar with it. your familiarity with the rest of the city, aside from knowing district lines, a few years ago -- you are intimately familiar with district 6. your experience throughout the city? >> my work has taken me all over the city to cover various events going on. if my work in the political community, working with various candidates and campaigns has taken me out to various parts of the community and city. i am not going to lie. district 6 is the district i know far and above the rest. but i'm comfortable and familiar with the rest of the city. supervisor kim: thank you.

next, we have rachel ebora. that leaves our last applicants, sarah pearce. >> good morning. i am a registered voter and resident of does strychnine since 2005. as a clear filipino emigrant, i pride myself spending time and committing gauge activities. i know the previous conversations about candidates for the task force have been around people who have expertise and mapping statistics and perhaps even legal expertise. i do not claim to bey