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day on any day you can go out and have access to entertainment and beautiful cafes. it is part of the charm of the neighborhood. however, another part of the charm -- a significant part of the charm -- is the fact that north beach, even though it is a densely populated neighborhood, it is a mix of residential and commercial -- commercial residents. most of the street fronts are occupied by commercial, and above that floor are all occupied by residential. applying a city-wide process to a neighborhood that has a specific character and composition, to me, is unfair and not well thought through. we are blessed in san francisco to have many such neighborhoods,
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and i do not see the logic behind applying something that applies city-wide to all of these specific neighborhoods. i would like to request that you take the residents of north beach into consideration and the fact that how this decision will greatly impact the quality of life for us. thank you. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. next speaker please. >> hello, supervisors, and thank you, ross. i greatly appreciate you helping craft this legislation. as an art space facilitator and resident, i am wholeheartedly in support of this very limited but very opening legislation. i think it will provide a lot of opportunity for small-scale entertainment and arts activities at site-appropriate locations. currently, i believe our land use policies in san francisco are flawed about the vast amounts of areas which have entertainment not allowed within
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it. allowing this as a citywide policy will open up site- appropriate locations. the permit would still have to be issued. it would still have to get the public bedding, -- public vetting, and if it is an inappropriate location, it would not be allowed. certainly within the soma district, the entirety of it not being included i think is really lacking. i certainly do not want to see this legislation delay any further. there are further considerations -- let's say in the digital realm -- i have friends that perform with game controllers. how is enforcement capacity going to make that determination on that? again, we do not want to see anything that would delay the passage. thank you so much for hearing this. i will be passed on to the full
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supervisors board tomorrow. thank you. supervisor mirkarimi: 90. next speaker please. >> good afternoon, again. this time speaking as a san francisco resident. i live in district 6 where a lot of small businesses and coffee houses and things like that are trying to get off the ground. a lot of them know that i do stuff at city hall, so you're sort of and in conversation with them about things they would like to see happen, some of which i disagree with, some of what i disagree with. in these conversations, i always get a strong sense of how incredibly difficult it is for them to get stuff moving so they can make a living and had a vibrant business. legislation like this is crucial to giving them more options. it is very important that we expand the ability -- i mean, this is a city. cities are supposed to be a
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place where i in your own neighborhood you can go and have a good time, etc. the only thing i would add is that as others have said, it would be better to just expand this even more, but at least let's move forward as it is and give some areas a break to really get more vibrancy happening. economists that are talking reality these days are not talking about recession. they are talking about depression. during economic times like that, we need legislation like this to give small businesses every possible tool we can give them to help make this a vibrant city and help put roofs over their heads and food on the table. thanks. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. next speaker please. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i am an advocate for the legislation. this is some of the most practical legislation that i have seen come down. it is long overdue, probably two years in the working.
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legislation makes it very clear that it is excess of reuse. a primary use would be coffee houses, restaurants, and accessories. therefore, the 10:00 cut off time is very practical. 10:00 is the city would cut off -- city-wide cut off. so i'm all for it. a lot of times you get arguments by neighborhood groups. however, we have probably five locations in the neighborhood that are coffee houses. one is iconic. the offer music. they are just not permanent at this point in time. there's no incidents. there's no reports. no one seems to care here this legislation is going to make people and affordable way -- offer them an opportunity to pay and level the playing field. so i urge you to pass it as it
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is. it is very practical, and it is long overdue. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. any other speakers, please come up, one after the other. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i speak to you today on behalf of the neighborhood association leaders and also on behalf of lower cope neighbors. we are concerned about this legislation. not saying it is bad legislation. we certainly would be fine with having a guitar playing in a restaurant. what we are concerned about, though, is that there seems to be a lack of outreach to residents. those who are familiar with the legislation, those who have been perhaps in the business of arena are more familiar with this. there is an alarming amount of residents who do not even know about this. there needs to be more out reach.
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when i first heard about this legislation was that neighborhood network. we post many questions. those questions remain unanswered. very well we could end up supporting this legislation, but there are many questions that we need to have answers to and need to become familiar and comfortable with this. i ask for you to allow time for that to happen. thank you. supervisor cohen: supervisor mirkarimi, to answer her concerned, how long have you been working on this legislation? supervisor mirkarimi: literally over a year. there have been quite a few meetings with consortiums of different organizations and with individual supervisors' districts. the legislation has evolved considerably. supervisor cohen: i was under that impression. it sounds like you have been working on the legislation for over a year, to add to this
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woman's question. thank you. supervisor mirkarimi: yes, and i do not want to be dismissed it because this is a common refrain that our process of public notification and everything else is not 100%, but the due diligence has definitely been put in there, and we expect that the gatekeepers of neighborhood- based politics and policy making through the supervisors' offices become that conduit that helps us understand. supervisor mar: thank you. mr. lee. >> hello, supervisors. i am here as not only a board member but a club owner, and a small business owner. two small restaurants in soma. i have been there since 1998, and i have seen a lot of progress and a lot of changes, and my neighbors have really beautiful restaurants now, but
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unfortunately, they cannot have entertainment there. i do have a full blown poe license. i spend my money and time getting it. this legislation is great for them, and having it shut down at 10:00 is also good because it is a fair deal for the people that do have the poe. but i also want my neighbors to do well. we have many really nice small restaurants that might want to have a couple of musicians or even possibly a deejay that does analog or digital music, but we cannot have that. soon, the fourth street corridor will have a light rail go right down the middle of it. it is kind of a chain that -- a shame that soma is left out. but i think the legislation is good for building business city-
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wide. because of facebook, there's a lot of after work happy hour networking parties. you do not have to pay cover charge. you can just go in and get economical drinks. a lot of restaurants have increased their sales because they are already there, and they get hungry. this is the latest trend right now, and it also builds up the neighborhood. i understand about noise, but it is afternoon, evening. a lot of people are still awake. i see my neighbors walking their dogs at 9:00 or 10:00 at night, so i know they are not really sleeping. but being a full poe boehner, i know about noise. thank you very much for this -- being a full poe owner, i know about noise. thank you very much for this. supervisor mar: colleagues, questions or comments? supervisor wiener: one thing i just want to note, there were a couple of comments about
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enforcement issues with the entertainment commission. when i came into office, i prioritized making sure that we have an entertainment commission that had the resources and the ability to fully enforce the law. because when we are unable to enforce these laws and we get cynicism in the electorate and people are skeptical of the laws that we pass and say that it will not be enforced so everyone is going to violate it, in the budget this year, i did try to get more staffing for the entertainment commission, and, referencing my previous comment, my control is limited, so i was unable to get the funding. i'm going to try again next year, and i hope that i will receive support from my
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colleagues and others in trying to make sure that the entertainment commission has the staffing and resources it needs to do a very credible job in enforcing the laws so that everyone can have a higher confidence level. supervisor mar: thank you. colleagues, can we move this forward? is there a motion? supervisor mirkarimi: quickly, i did not recognize and wanted to earlier the good work of the city attorney's office. the city attorneys had been assigned to this over the last year, and working with all your age, to -- your aides, too. it is important to keep all your colleagues apprised into this incremental developments. i also want to say that the neighbors and businesses -- this kind of relationship helps foster greater collaboration in a much more micro not an wait,
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which i think is really important. i think in some ways, we might be able to help create that level of conversation between merchants, cafes, restaurants, artists, and supervisors, and looking for some common ground, helping give them whatever leg up, while maintaining the sensitivity to residential needs. i think it throttles forward that necessity that that conversation take a day to day kind of action plan that all of us have to be much more on our toes. i have to say that in the very beginning of us sculpting this legislation, we wanted to do so and be sensitive to all the existing areas that exist now. we were not creating new areas. we used the overlay of the mouth of what was permitted already in the city. we were not making this city- wide, as regard to the assertion
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by one of the public comments. that is not true at all. so areas we actually had decided to opt out were even less of an area until we asked the supervisors to check in with residents and merchants to decide if they want to opt in. i am sensitive still to the fact that there are people in the, say, the north beach area, however, that have some concern or reservations or in the district 3 area, that i expect that they will work that through the district supervisor to have that kind of conversation, and i will remain open to what they have to say as this advances from this committee. as it relates to dj analog /digital, it is an excellent point, but it is a point that came late in the process, and i encourage us to return back to this concept in a trailing strategy so that it gets the full vetting that it deserves.
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in the menu of what we are asking neighborhoods, restaurants, cafes in the business environment, artist invited to be able to entertain, but as a package now, this has been pretty tightly wrapped. we have really been checking off on the inventory with everybody involved as we possibly can and make sure you are informed. there's conversation and dialogue about refining the legislation, and i think we have to arrive at the place where it needs to go. thank you, colleagues. supervisor mar: thank you. i look forward to this as a beginning point for further discussion, but i appreciate the leadership from the colleagues on this side, and i appreciate supervisor wiener's efforts to broaden and include other neighborhoods, but also the issue that has been brought to us, so i look forward to working with both of you on those issues. colleagues, can we move this forward? so we do not have amendments before us. can we move this forward as a
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committee report to the full board on july 26, 2011 without objection? with recommendation, yes. thank you. without objection. thank you, everyone. could you please call the next item? >> item 9, resolution endorsing an outdated electricity resource plan to serve as a policy guide and identify potential steps toward the goal of zero greenhouse gas emissions from electric usage by 2030. supervisor cohen: thank you. kind of been a long day. we have got a lot done today. ok. colleagues, what we have here before us are a few amendments to item nine on the agenda. this is an effort to update the city froze electricity resourced plan, and the mayor's office has been working with my office and the puc on these proposed changes, and all are in agreement with the proposed amendments, which are clarifying in nature and specified that
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future study of the individual recommendations of the erp may be needed when they are implemented. this would include an analysis of the fiscal and environmental impact, a greenhouse gas emissions, safety in operations, and system reliability. i would ask for your support as we continue to move this resolution, as amended, with a recommendation to the full board. supervisor mar: thank you. do we have any presentations from any of the staff that are here? sounds like someone is here from the public utilities commission but does not want to make any comments. opening up for public comment, two minutes per person. >> hello again. this time, i am representing san
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francisco green party and the local grassroots organization our city. i followed in many of the stake holder meetings the development of this electric resourced plan, and the main object of the in many of my fellow organizers had during that process was making sure that community choice abrogation was properly recognized in the plan. we would like it's still to be more robust, but what you have in front of you is pretty strong and gets us sort of what we need. because i and others were so laser focus on community choice and had a lot of other stuff going on on other campaigns, and i apologize for getting the last difference with this legislation -- to you at the last minute, but there is an issue. i looked at this over the weekend. thankfully there was an extension, and the issue is the possibility of the cogeneration
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description in this plan being misused because it is vague, and it looks like it might even be intended to allow for corporations in the fossil fuel energy business to take their existing gas boilers and still lives in the city and not just retrofit them to use their excess heat to create electricity so there are more efficient, but potentially burn more fuel in them so that they can generate more electricity to put into the system. that is not going to get us to zero carbon by 2030 if we allow that to happen. since the document is so unclear, i think it is crucial that we clean that up and make sure that it specifically states in the document that cogeneration is only meant to take existing boilers and steam lives and make them more efficient and use the excess heat and not grant them up to
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produce more electricity. it is really crucial that we make that distinction in this document. supervisor cohen: thank you for your comments and your e-mail. is there anyone else that would like to make it public comment? ok, seeing none at this time, public comment is closed. supervisor mar: thank you. colleagues, can we move this forward with a positive recommendation as a committee report to the full board on july 26, 2011 with recommendation? supervisor cohen: it is not going as a committee report. supervisor mar: ok then just with a recommendation. are there any other items before us? >> no, there are no further items. supervisor mar: 10 the meeting is adjourned. thank you, everyone.
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>> would you like to call the roll? er jsbr we have a quorum. commissioner perrez is an excused absence. >> thank you. second item -- first item is public comment. members may address the commission on items of interest that are within the subject
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matter of jurisdiction. members may address the commission up to three minutes. at the time such item is called. is there anyone here to speak to an item or an issue that is not on today's agenda? seeing none, i am going to go forward because we will lose our quorum. i am going to take the calendar out of order. the place of entertainment -- do you want to take that? >> it is an application at 37 mission. in your folders you will find the full application. and original photographs.
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inside you will find your security plan and a letter of support from the neighbors. we recommend conditional approval of this permit. >> would you like to invite the applicants up to be grilled? >> good evening. i am a business broker with business team and have been representing the clients on the acquisition of their new facility. this is harpreet. her cousin is a general manager. welcome.
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it is your business and your husband is the general manager. >> my cousin. my hearing is not that good. ok, commissioners? >> one question. general manager, where have you general managed before? >> in los angeles. >> you worked at the avalon? >> that is correct. >> at the vanguard i started as a busboy and worked up to management and also here in san francisco. >> what did you do it avalon? >> i was a busboy. and at the vanguard i worked myself to a bartender and then to assistant manager. >> of the bar? >> that is correct.
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>> you did not manage the general facility. >> that is correct. >> have you had experience? >> i have experience in the management field. i have managed a few businesses in my career. i have not run a nightclub. i have learned quite a bit in the last four or five months and have gone through this process and this is something we have been exploring in looking at for the last year-and-a-half. we have been evaluating and looking at and trying to learn the business. with the help of my cousin who has extensive experience has managed and knows from running the bar and the club, i have the management experience. >> have you been to shine when it was opened? >> three times. >> how long did you stay? >> until 1:30 a.m. and we have gone.
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we have thoroughly evaluated and looked at -- >> i have deep concerns for people who have no experience and you will forgive me. you were a busboy and a bartender and you have worked with the bar. i have deep concerns about people who take on the news and decide to manage them and they have zero experience managing the lounge, and nightclub, where there is entertainment, any of that. all the management in the world, this is a different animal. i know -- it is a different animal. it is not like managing any other thing, including a restaurant. that is why i asked you what you did at avalon. and what you did at vanguard. what you did there is not experience as managing the business.
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as managing the floor. you do not have that experience. and that is my concern. >> ok. >> thank you. commissioner? >> welcome. i echo commissioner joseph's concerns about that location. it has been a problematic location in the past and needs to be managed by someone who understands how to deal with troublesome crowds. i live in the immediate area and i have heard from residents who live in the alleys behind you that there have been problems with that location so i look to your neighborhood contacts and i do not see a single letter -- am i missing something? are there letters from actual residence? i'm not talking about businesses. i understand aaa flag is in the
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area and the car wash a couple blocks away and sloan, which is another venue which is in trouble with this commission. are there any actual neighbors that you have talked to? >> i know we talked to the business and he approached so i can let him come in. >> there are no letters here. >> right. >> you have no proof that you have done any outrage to the neighbors. did you get a packet when you came in for your application, giving you some information on how you can go through a free application process where you would get -- contact the neighbors in the area. have you set up a meeting with them and listened to their concerns? you'd make note of what those concerns were and hopefully be able to reflect the solutions to those in your presentation before us?
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>> i am going to let j.p. comment. >> our understanding at working with joselyn and others in the office and the current owners, there was not a problematic situation and we know of no known complaints to the department and have been -- raised any in discussions with the police on the license and entertainment commission license. we were up front in trying to proactively approaching any problems and we declined purchasing a different nightclub because we did uncover problems through jocelyn and the pitpd. we selected shine because of its seemingly good operation and clientele and we have no plans of changing that. jt did