commissioner garcia: we understood. >> [unintelligible]

president goh: ok. >> [unintelligible] president goh: ok. thank you. i'm going to -- commissioner garcia: miss li? commissioner fung: i asked the appellant whether they had done any form of approaching community boards where neighbors can discuss things and see if they can find some common basis

to have a neighborly relationship. would that be of interest to you? to see if there is an ability to reduce complaints and lived to get there? -- and live together? perhaps your daughter can translate that. >> no. nobody called me. commissioner fung: would you consider that? volunteers service that in the city. >> it's a good idea, but let them come to me and let me do

the stairway. commissioner fung: the stairway is the issue before us. the community boards thing is voluntary by the parties themselves. >> i think that for today's case, we would like to let us do the stairway thing and in the future, she would like to go to the -- commissioner fung: community boards. ok. thank you. president goh: i was going to give you another minute if you have any for one -- a need for one. if you'd like.

>> i would like to ask michael if a new permit is granted for the stairway to be rebuilt that the area be removed so there is not an eagerness to my roof and is -- egress to my roof. the entire stairway should be certified by a structural engineer. president goh: anything more? commissioners, any questions? commissioner hwanpeterson: at wt

point will they be warranted? >> i think it will be required by drawings. the picture showed it at the bottom. >> how would they know it is more than 50% needed to be replaced? we heard lumber being brought into the backyard. it certainly happens in this city. a lot of times, the have done more than 50%. there are engineering drawings. >> what about the stoop issues?

they go to planning. >> i think plan and would do an entire landing structure. it is required out there. and it will be replaced in kind, you are not changing the configuration. there are planning requirements that is the process. >> it will be very hard to pick up. i don't have that as possible. there is tram on the window. i think it is hard to prove. but they changed the size by 3

inches. president goh: the matter is submitted if you have no other questions. comments? commissioner garcia: i invoke rodney king, why can't we all get along? it seems like we don't really know what is going on. i feel as if i don't really know what is going on. i have great sympathy for the neighbors of all of these issues took place and they were filing these complaints because things were happening that were not dakota. -- up to code. i would feel sympathy for the homeowner and someone was looking over every single thing they ever did.

it seems a shame, i love the idea of community boards. as for this permit, they can go back and ascertain whether or not it has exceeded the 50%. there is no nov issue attached, so that's not an issue. i feel like it would be reasonable because sa picture depicts plants on a roof from another house. the very fact that they have access and someone has done that means they have not respected somebody else's property rights. it is perfectly reasonable for this board and to require that a screen be erected on that's to -- that stoop on that wall, and i don't see how it will do any harm to the enjoyment of that stoop to the neighbors. all you can ask is to realize

who lives next door. they are sensitive to noise and other things that take place on that property. maybe you have been of great neighbor already, but be a little more sensitive to their issues. commissioner peterson: since you suggested the screen, what are you -- commissioner garcia: they can take the form of a trellis. anything that would prevent someone from standing on that's due to be able to reach over and place things on the roof of the appellant cozy house that is right next door. -- the appellant's house that is right next door. if you put a large plant there,

it is not that big of a steoop o begin with and you are limiting the amount of space available. commissioner hwang: i would say that a lot of the comments by vice-president garcia would be the same as mine. i think what is very difficult is how we live. i live in vernal heights. i try very hard to avert my eyes when i see my neighbors eating their breakfast and i try not to look at them. not because all we are unfriendly, but just affording privacy and consideration that we would like for ourselves. that is something that i think everyone should think about. i agree that it has also been

said. neighbors have gotten into it over un-permitted work. it is hard to dial back what might be a hostile relationship and work together as neighbors. i can understand the appellant's perspective once the on permitted work -- un-permitted work, they're not in position to see it or see as a fair response has been incredibly frustrating. i understand that is what brought you here today. i can also see the neighbor's trying to fix a set of stairs that is rotted and dangerous . they hnhee -- need to fix those stairs. it is difficult. when you see the wood and the

work starting, instead of saying, what is going on, pickup the phone and call dbi. it brings dbi into it. everybody should go the mediation and figure out how to get along. it might be helpful in this situation. president goh: do we have a motion? commissioner garcia: i don't know if i am failing on the issue for some sort of device to prevent people from reaching over. president goh: i think it is a good idea, but i could not tell from the pictures where it would go and how it would function. commissioner fung: cumene the vertical screen so that one can't go over? commissioner garcia: that would be fine. would you, as an architect,

suggests something? commissioner fung: it is relatively easy for us to suggest these things, but i am not sure is the root cause. if they had any desire at all to initiate some form of dialogue, they have to bring that force themselves. commissioner garcia: it seemed of all the problems that exist between those neighbors, the one that could be easily dealt with -- i certainly did not think that would solve all the problems and these people would skip into the sunset together, hand in hand. but there seems to be no support for the screen. perhaps the neighbors have not heard the board. they might decide as a good neighbor gesture to do it on their own. but i would move to uphold the permit.

>> on that motion from the vice president to deny this appeal and uphold the permit on the basis it is code compliant. commissioner fung: aye. president goh: aye. commissioner peterson: aye. commissioner hwang: aye. >> the lotus 5-0. department is upheld. >> item 7 was withdrawn. there is no other business. president goh: ok. we are returned. -- adjourned.

after school at 3. . 30 i hop on the bus and go to work with kids. i didn't realize i was going to get up that early for the rest of my life. >> it's hard to get good jobs. you can get well paid working at restaurants i was making good money that's not my 50 year goal working as a waitress. it would be better to have something to fall back on i wanted something where i would in 10 years accumulate properties. >> 3 months is a long time to be busy all day.

i'm putting myself further in debt with the understanding it's worth the sacrifice. eating raman for 3 months. it's not fun but i think it will be worth it. >> we all want to graduate we are all tired of this class. been 11 weeks. one more week to go. >> i need to get these mraps out. >> my purpose is to get the recruits prepared for the construction training. >> what you do is get a 2 by 6 sitting on the saw horses. we will cut 10 feet. everybody going to get one and you measure up 6 inches. you sure you got 8 feet. >> as a carpenter you have to let them know what's expected

and they need to know the stuff to get going on the trades. >> the main thing they need to know is how to carry the stuff on the job and the hussle. >> you can't work with the gloves. >> my part is a small part. my part is the best part. the part that really teaches them how to go out and fish rather than go to the fish market. my job is how to teach them to fish when the fish market is closed. >> this requires i thinking. when you go on the job site they will pay you 20-15, dollars an hour you have to think and figure stuff out and get the jobs done in a record time. >> one of the things we try to teach with the construction trades is your attitude going to work. how employers look on new

workers and it's about profitability and productivity. it's not how much swings it takes to drive, you know, ita about do you have the right attitude? can you show up on time? can you make the company money? >> 12.5 times 15. >> i don't want you to use the calculator. >> the students go through approximately 420 some hours of training. we operate at the campus of the community college a 12 week, full time program, 7-3:30. >> if you were going to figure out how much [inaudible] you need you rounding up. >> average age of individuals in the trades is in the 40's from what we are told.

in the 50's quite frankly those folks are getting ready to retire. we see a void. >> the average is making 60-80 thousand dollar a year more with benefits much it's hard work i will not lie. >> if you like working with your hands and creative and you look at a building and say, i did that finish and that building is there for a hundred years. come to my program you will work for anyone in the country. >> we send people to the dry waller the carpenters and the plummers. >> we are conscious who we give a job referral to. >> we look at the skills part as far as hayou do with a hammer and nail there are other components to be able to be a

team player. be able to take directs and be precise and punctual things like this you need to help you keep your jobs. >> we will looking at the interviews today and doing the critiquing from the papers. >> i was thinking last week we were talking ask that was so much thinking going on about the interview and how i was going to do it. >> i feel like, me, as an african-american woman and older woman with children i feel i have to set an example. a lot of people don't know how to deal with anger and

conflicts. the kids here look up to me. if i do something and don't set an example then they are going to follow. since i've been a positive roll model, coming to school everyday. some of those kids pick up on that and i see the improvement in them. >> one thing that i knew but the class helped reinstate is that you have to check yourself. we are all grown adults. >> i try to be motivated in everything i do in my life. if you don't encourage yourself to do something or do things for yourself you can't expect somebody else will do it for you. some people didn't make it to class because they have a bad attitude and decided it wasn't worth it. >> when you do something you have to understand why you are doing it and you can't say and

come in and say, i will make good money. construction's not like that you have to want to do it because it's not aedz work. you have to want to get up and go to work and do physical labor for 8 hourses. >> i lived next to biotechnology companies and was a recruiter. i was getting tired and felt sluggish. >> i knew from the first day we were outside being outside having fun, climboth ladder and hammer and the physical labor i knew it was something i would enjoy. to say i put 15 years into this and not retire a multimillionaire but retire healthy and feel good about the work i have done.

>> the greatest accomplishment is you drive by a building or bridge and say, i helped build that bridge or helped build the building on market street. the most greatest reward for me is i taught that student to work on the bay bridge. taught the student operating the crane that student was in my class. >> our goal is to have a core group of people, we are hoping it's over 50 percent of your grads complete and become journey people andup standing good roll models and citizens. the largest public works our city has season in many years going on now the private project that 1 rincon hill.

huge project. we had 5 or 6 people work on that project thus far. the rebuilding of the academy of science in golden gate park. the rebuilding of our public hospital laguna honda this is on going work with the same contract ors that move successful apprentices from one project to another and keep them working for several years. the construction workers of the future to be the superintendents the construction owners. that's the perfect thing there. that's success.

>> san francisco is home to a renowned civic art collection that includes a comic works -- iconic works by local and national artists integrated into our public buildings and six basis. the arts commission has struggled to take care of the priceless collection because of limited resources. in an effort to gather more funding for the maintenance of the collection, the art commission has joined forces with the san francisco art dealers association to establish art care, a new initiative that provides a way for the public to get involved. the director of public affairs recently met with the founder and liquor -- local gallery owner to check out the first art care project. ♪

>> many san franciscans are not aware that there is a civic art collection of numbers almost 4000 works of art. preserving the collection and maintaining it is something being addressed by a new program called art care. it is a way for citizens to participate in the preservation of the civic art collection. with me is the creator of the art care program. welcome. the reason we wanted to interview you is that the artist in question is peter volkas. why is he so important to the history of san francisco art? >> he is a very famous ceramic ist.

knowing the limitations of clay, he got involved in bronze in around 1962. he was teaching at the university of california, berkeley. >> your gallery celebrated the 50th anniversary of continuous operation. you are a pioneer in introducing the work and representing him. >> i have represented him since 1966. i was not in business until 1961. he made a big deal out of working in clay. the things he was doing was something never seen before. >> it is a large scale bronze. it has been sitting here of the hall of justice since 1971. talk about what happens to the work of art out of the elements. >> the arts commission commissioned the piece. they did not set aside money for

repair. it has slowly changed color. it was black. it has been restored. >> it has been restored to the original patina. >> there was no damage done to its. i do not think there were any holes made in it. they have been working on it for six or eight weeks. it is practically ready to go. i am very excited to see it done. >> over the course of the arts in richmond program, we have added almost 800 works of art into the public space. maintaining that is not something that the bond funds

allow us to do. this is why you came up with the idea of art care. >> i hope we get the community going and get people who really like to be involved. we will give them a chance to be involved. if you are interested in art, this is a marvelous way to get involved. there is work all over the city where every year ago. -- there is artwork all over the city wherever you go. my idea was to get people in the neighborhood to take care of the pieces and let the art commission have the money for the bigger pieces. >> i was talking to the former president of the arts commission yesterday. the 2% ordnance is something he helped to champion. >> it is all over california and other states now. we really were the