writ comes directly to your inbox but another inbox that could be checked. to create another place to have this go. >> i don't want to put this in year. president olague: i don't want to make the change in the rules. >> i am not suggesting that it be in the rules but something to consider because of the issue brought up. secretary avery: i understand your point and there are literally thousands of emails that came in while i was gone and as i am going through, it's just to me and no one got it and you didn't get things forwarded to you and i didn't get a chance to respond to them because i want here, they came just to me. so that is what we should talk about and work out. >> for the purpose of the rules, we can get back on that subject

-- president olague: thank you. i apologize for the free for all nature of the conversation. usually we push buttons and very orderly, but i think it's appropriate for this only. secretary avery: and we are agreed to eliminate my email address in 1b. going back to the rules, we had gotten to 2d. to #c and we have gone back to 15 minutes on 3c and left the project sponsor and 3b at 15 minutes. this is the same as standard cases and eliminated the

language and the same for 3e and eliminated 3f and g and numbered the rest of the items and those are the only changes i am aware of and you will change the adoption date. it is not july 20. that is all i am aware of. >> i don't have changes but i would like to have it recognize that we have language in here in three places at least that says revisions submitted at hearings are discouraged. president olague: good for that. and that is in every one of the cases and then the other one is the staff on policy or major project informational presentation at the commission

is supposed to get precipitated power points one week in advance. >> we'll bring it with us every week. >> if we don't get it, we will still hear the case? >> and it says december cession and if we want -- it says discretion and so we could say that but make it not so arbitrary. >> there is one interesting thing that happened today at 11:25 a rather potentially important set of comments came in regarding 55 laguna and the person presented here and so when that comes in, the presentation itself does not give enough to understand.

and to send it the week before, i would have time to read it and think about it. >> and the public needs to be encouraged to submit public commentary early on. and which you either agree with or not. that is not the point. and somebody wants to make a contribution, but out of respect of time we need to have it in order to be thoughtful about it. commissioner borden: i know the rules are on the website, yes? so maybe we can to have the middle issue stuff on the website. and if they want to thoughtfully consider the comments and to give them enough time. president olague: or staff should discuss with project sponsor also. and it should be part of the routine of what they do. and the project sponsor should

be up front given the list of the rules. they are? well, then there's -- >> and to submit things late is one problem or in a day or two in advance. and commissioner moore is raising is often for memberses of the public who come in very, very late, not project sponsor concerns. president olague: i know what you are saying. secretary avery: and let me just recap this. not only do members of the public, but our staff does this. and we get things today. so they have had changes and everybody on both sides of the coin are in violation of your rules. so what do we do? president olague: just encourage and i think that -- commissioner miguel: i think we encourage because we also encourage people to talk about d.r.'s and talking about other

things and to negotiate and as we know, sometimes that comes down to right outside the door. so absolutes are a problem and we're encouraging it in another sense. >> we know the language within the rules and up to you to enforce it. and i know because of the whole nature of negotiation, it is hard to enforce something when you are encouraging negotiation and that might happen just prior to us calling the item. it is really up to you do you keep it and change it and do you want, and how do we better address making sure all sides adhere?

>> that is a loaded question. and encourage that it happens but i am not sure we can ever enforce it. i don't think it will happen. i couldn't support something that would be so rigid because these things of cur. >> i think it is enough that it is in your rules and i am not sure what else you can do beyond that. >> i would like to open it up for public comment. >> sue hester, and i submitted revision and none of them are reflected in the discussion. the issue is the current procedure is the staff ignores complicated case and don't follow it and you get staff report two weeks in advance extremely rarely and a staff report allows people that are

having problems to read it and respond it to and when they get available on a thursday and become available to the public on friday afternoon and how do you think anyone is going to submit anything that you can absorb in that period? and i would ask that you shift a lot of things into complicated cases and that the staff be told that if you don't have the staff report, it is off calendar if it's due two weeks in advance. that would be a therapeutic way of getting enforcement. large projects in the eastern neighborhood should all be defined as complicated cases. all the projects with multiple exceptions should be defined as large cases. so the original exceptions were supposed to be minor in the olden, olden days of the downtown plan and now we have projects that are like 500 units with 10 exceptions. and then they come and they are an understands case.

and no one enforces the rule for two weeks in advance and there is also a planning code rule for 309 and 309.1 and that says 10 days in advance. that is not hon in order. rincon hill cases have the 10-day and i come here and be a crank saying this and i proposed ap amendment and it didn't get reflected and i got this last week and i am saying you're never going to change the practice that makes informed public comment possible. because people cannot get the final divisions from the developer on friday afternoon and have a hearing on thursday and get you the material in advance. it doesn't function. i ask that you redefine complicated cases to be just about the project that has an

e.i.r. and a negative declaration or a tiered project which is all of the eastern neighborhoods that you get that come through as categorical exemption even though they may be 100 units. like 1501 which was then taken off calendar and 2121 which was continued. and none of these cases come to you for the staff report more than seven days in advance. and that is dysfunctional. and if you really respect public input, you have to have reports in sufficient time to allow the public to give you informed comment so that we're not all scattering around trying to read stuff at 4:00 on a friday afternoon and finally up on the website. so i ask you to redefine complicated cases and enforce

the rule and staff be told if you can't get your stuff done, it's off the calendar. thank you. president olague: thank you. i see no additional members of the public in the audience, so therefore, public comment is closed. any other additional commissi commissioner comments? >> like to have everything stay with the rules. >> if i may, ms. hester keeps bringing up the issue and staff has because the rules don't define what a complicated case is, it is basically been our determination to figure out something that is big enough to have two weeks in advance. and we do that early with the i.r. documents and other large documents of that sort, but i guess i would leave it to you to

tell us if you are getting your documentation far enough in advance. commissioner moore: not always, i would say. i think it's a mix and match. it is partially because of of a push on the calendar and accelerate things without following the same identical rule each time. i am not opposed to taking some closer definition of what a large case is. but i am not quite sure it is as extensive as ms. hester is describing. i am prepared to leave that open and add it with an asterisk of what is the meaning of complicated case and spend a little bit more time thinking about instead of just reacting. i would -- commissioner miguel: it is not defined in the rules. which is all right with me. president olague: we have a conversation about that here. commissioner moore: we might want to discuss that a little bit further.

secretary avery: commissioners, i have a feeling that i am probably the only one who is here with the discussion of the creation of complicated cases standards, etc., and the commission had a discussion on what constituted the complicated case. they did not ever put that in their rules and basically it was on the size of the document that came through and the size of the project that was being proposed. and again, it was never ep caps lated in the -- it was never encapsulated in the rules and regulations and you don't have a definition. and if no one was here, it would be hearsay if i came up with the paper from the hearings and it is hearsay from me on what they believe their definition of complicated cases were. so i think it would be timely for you to have that discussion. president olague: great. perfect. we'll calendar it. >> but we're going to go ahead and adopt these. commissioner miguel: i would

move we adopt with the changes we have discussed, which i think secretary has duly noted. >> second. >> thank you. commissioners, would you like me to restate this? or are we -- go over them all? president olague: no. >> commissioners, the motion on the floor is to adopt the rules and regulations as they have been discussed and changed today. [roll call taken] >> thank you, commissioners. that motion has been approved unanimously. commissioners, you are now at general public comment. at this time, members of the public may address you on items to the public that fall within the jurisdiction of the commission. each member of the public may address you for up to 3 minutes, keeping in mind they may not address you on any item that

appears on this calendar. i have no speaker cards. olague is there any general public comment? seeing none, general -- secretary avery: before you close the public comment, i know i am a commission secretary to you and i just want to thank all of you for your kind cards and expressions during the past month. president olague: we missed you and are glad to see you back. with that being said, our meeting is adjourned. thank you.

after school at 3. . 30 i hop on the bus and go to work with kids. i didn't realize i was going to get up that early for the rest of my life. >> it's hard to get good jobs. you can get well paid working at restaurants i was making good money that's not my 50 year goal working as a waitress. it would be better to have something to fall back on i wanted something where i would in 10 years accumulate properties. >> 3 months is a long time to

be busy all day. i'm putting myself further in debt with the understanding it's worth the sacrifice. eating raman for 3 months. it's not fun but i think it will be worth it. >> we all want to graduate we are all tired of this class. been 11 weeks. one more week to go. >> i need to get these mraps out. >> my purpose is to get the recruits prepared for the construction training. >> what you do is get a 2 by 6 sitting on the saw horses. we will cut 10 feet. everybody going to get one and you measure up 6 inches. you sure you got 8 feet. >> as a carpenter you have to

let them know what's expected and they need to know the stuff to get going on the trades. >> the main thing they need to know is how to carry the stuff on the job and the hussle. >> you can't work with the gloves. >> my part is a small part. my part is the best part. the part that really teaches them how to go out and fish rather than go to the fish market. my job is how to teach them to fish when the fish market is closed. >> this requires i thinking. when you go on the job site they will pay you 20-15, dollars an hour you have to think and figure stuff out and get the jobs done in a record time. >> one of the things we try to teach with the construction trades is your attitude going to

work. how employers look on new workers and it's about profitability and productivity. it's not how much swings it takes to drive, you know, ita about do you have the right attitude? can you show up on time? can you make the company money? >> 12.5 times 15. >> i don't want you to use the calculator. >> the students go through approximately 420 some hours of training. we operate at the campus of the community college a 12 week, full time program, 7-3:30. >> if you were going to figure out how much [inaudible] you need you rounding up. >> average age of individuals in the trades is in the 40's from

what we are told. in the 50's quite frankly those folks are getting ready to retire. we see a void. >> the average is making 60-80 thousand dollar a year more with benefits much it's hard work i will not lie. >> if you like working with your hands and creative and you look at a building and say, i did that finish and that building is there for a hundred years. come to my program you will work for anyone in the country. >> we send people to the dry waller the carpenters and the plummers. >> we are conscious who we give a job referral to. >> we look at the skills part as far as hayou do with a hammer and nail there are other

components to be able to be a team player. be able to take directs and be precise and punctual things like this you need to help you keep your jobs. >> we will looking at the interviews today and doing the critiquing from the papers. >> i was thinking last week we were talking ask that was so much thinking going on about the interview and how i was going to do it. >> i feel like, me, as an african-american woman and older woman with children i feel i have to set an example. a lot of people don't know how

to deal with anger and conflicts. the kids here look up to me. if i do something and don't set an example then they are going to follow. since i've been a positive roll model, coming to school everyday. some of those kids pick up on that and i see the improvement in them. >> one thing that i knew but the class helped reinstate is that you have to check yourself. we are all grown adults. >> i try to be motivated in everything i do in my life. if you don't encourage yourself to do something or do things for yourself you can't expect somebody else will do it for you. some people didn't make it to class because they have a bad attitude and decided it wasn't worth it. >> when you do something you have to understand why you are

doing it and you can't say and come in and say, i will make good money. construction's not like that you have to want to do it because it's not aedz work. you have to want to get up and go to work and do physical labor for 8 hourses. >> i lived next to biotechnology companies and was a recruiter. i was getting tired and felt sluggish. >> i knew from the first day we were outside being outside having fun, climboth ladder and hammer and the physical labor i knew it was something i would enjoy. to say i put 15 years into this and not retire a multimillionaire but retire healthy and feel good about the work i have done.

>> the greatest accomplishment is you drive by a building or bridge and say, i helped build that bridge or helped build the building on market street. the most greatest reward for me is i taught that student to work on the bay bridge. taught the student operating the crane that student was in my class. >> our goal is to have a core group of people, we are hoping it's over 50 percent of your grads complete and become journey people andup standing good roll models and citizens. the largest public works our city has season in many years going on now the private project

that 1 rincon hill. huge project. we had 5 or 6 people work on that project thus far. the rebuilding of the academy of science in golden gate park. the rebuilding of our public hospital laguna honda this is on going work with the same contract ors that move successful apprentices from one project to another and keep them working for several years. the construction workers of the future to be the superintendents the construction owners. that's the perfect thing there. that's success.

>> san francisco is home to a renowned civic art collection that includes a comic works -- iconic works by local and national artists integrated into our public buildings and six basis. the arts commission has struggled to take care of the priceless collection because of limited resources. in an effort to gather more funding for the maintenance of the collection, the art commission has joined forces with the san francisco art dealers association to establish art care, a new initiative that provides a way for the public to get involved. the director of public affairs recently met with the founder and liquor -- local gallery owner to check out the first art care project. ♪

>> many san franciscans are not aware that there is a civic art collection of numbers almost 4000 works of art. preserving the collection and maintaining it is something being addressed by a new program called art care. it is a way for citizens to participate in the preservation of the civic art collection. with me is the creator of the art care program. welcome. the reason we wanted to interview you is that the artist in question is peter volkas. why is he so important to the history of san francisco art? >> he is a very famous ceramic ist.

knowing the limitations of clay, he got involved in bronze in around 1962. he was teaching at the university of california, berkeley. >> your gallery celebrated the 50th anniversary of continuous operation. you are a pioneer in introducing the work and representing him. >> i have represented him since 1966. i was not in business until 1961. he made a big deal out of working in clay. the things he was doing was something never seen before. >> it is a large scale bronze. it has been sitting here of the hall of justice since 1971. talk about what happens to the work of art out of the elements. >> the arts commission commissioned the piece.

they did not set aside money for repair. it has slowly changed color. it was black. it has been restored. >> it has been restored to the original patina. >> there was no damage done to its. i do not think there were any holes made in it. they have been working on it for six or eight weeks. it is practically ready to go. i am very excited to see it done. >> over the course of the arts in richmond program, we have added almost 800 works of art into the public space. maintaining that is not something that th