everyone says i am a high end bar. most of you guys are in -- san francisco residents. this will be a cross between the big four restaurant and the hotel. and i really nice place. nobody in this room could potentially call it anything but a high end cocteau. if you do, i will surrender my license tomorrow. that is how positive i am. >> commisioner joseph: i wish you the best. >> i have investors who want to see a high end. >> commisioner joseph: i want you to know where i am coming from. just so that you stick to what you say. >> i can assure you when you walk through the door, you will see where i'm going with this.

you'll be let in, i promise. >> did you already hire shaw security? >> we walked through it. the security, this is not going to be the focus of this place. we aren o not planning on seven nights a week having a different bj or banned. on thursday, do this or saturday, do that. we are not a band or dj peña. i do not want to walk out -- i am applying for it now and i would love your support. >> commissioner roja: do you

have a copy of the security plan? >> i think we do. >> i would like to remind commissioner joseph off that we granted [inaudible] >> commisioner joseph: because gravity was such an issue in this area. >> i do not have one. >> you said this is jazz and dj's. are they running through your

house system? >> ok. have a seat. members of the public wish to address this item, they are allowed three minutes. >> no meetings were called with the neighborhood. we were told it was going to be a piano only at the time. we knothe notice of this meetinn saturday. no one saw the sign. before the applicant and -- bars caused problems. drugs, federal and state rates, midget parties, noseise, vomit n sidewalks. we want mr. owens to be successful but we would request

the fire -- following conditions. amplified music and singing to stop at 10:00 p.m. on sunday through thursday. friday and saturday, amplified music until midnight. all is must be closed at the time of the amplified music -- doors must be closed at the time of the amplified music. must have licensed security guards at all times and they must have patrons where they are not just hanging out to outside. must have a dedicated telephone line picked up at all times for complaints. no upstairs room shall be used for office only. no customers and friends allowed in the office on those steps. because there is no necessity for the customers and friends to

be upstairs, that was a big problem with gravity. i have no seen a plan of how the emergency exit in the alley is. cleanup crew must clean and hose down the front yard after the building closes. not at 7:00 a.m. because patrons have come out repeatedly and stepped on bonnett. this has been a problem with this building. nothing against mr. owens. we want to have a working situation with him. when the neighbors found out recently that this hearing was happening, they called me and we came up with these conditions. i think they are fair and i would like to work with mr. allen's more. thank you.

>> good evening. i may legislative aide to the district to supervisor. we like to ask that you continue this because we have not heard from the owner, we have not heard anything about this until recently. there has been little neighborhood outreach in our opinion. the neighborhood associations have not had a chance to meet with mr. aowen. mr. feldman has not sat down and met with him. when patrisha was meeting with him, they met casually but did not have a meeting. also, our office has never been contacted and as commissioner joseph stated, the past owner created a serious situation for

the neighborhood. and past owners created serious situations for the neighborhood. it is a bone of contention and neighborhood outreach, a good neighborhood outreach is what is required when moving forward. i would note that given the fact that we are discussing the board of supervisors limited life permit, may be an accessory use is more appropriate for this location. that needs to be discussed also. my boss would love to discuss what mr. owens sees for this location. it is important to the neighborhood. i was in mr. caen's office, concerned about what happened there. i have not heard anything since.

eight months later and all of a sudden this comes up. we want an opportunity to work with mr. owens and make sure those type of activities do not occur and the neighbors are heard. patricia is one of the people who informed me. if we could have time to discuss this or pursue something like the limited live informant -- performance permit, we would appreciate that. >> thank you. any other members of the public? this would not fall under the umbrella of the limited live entertainment, right? >> as he has applied and to go past ten, it would not be limited live performance, as he revised the application.

>> ok. >> commisioner joseph: i make a motion at this point. before i do, i wanted to make my feelings really clear. i do believe that some things are going to open in that space, whatever it is. having something without a dance for is a far better cry then having another gravitate type club opened in that space but -- gravity type club opened in that space. opinions of what his sound is going to be like is unrealistic. he cannot have in-house system and put a dj through it and bands. it would make our sound enforcement impossible. that is not realistic to me. i also think that his neighborhood outreach was somewhat lacking.

although i am reticent to continue it because we continue it, we can only continue it for how long? the next meeting would be when we could continue it to, is that right? if the applicant asks for a continuation. >> we do have an issue that the commissioners are aware of. if there is a continuance. it might be 45 days. we do have to be careful. there is a clause in 1060 but

that does not trigger if it is a request from the applicant. >> commisioner joseph: i am not sure if the applicant would request the continuance. mr. owens. would you consider requesting a continuance until our meeting in august? there is no second meeting. august 9 is not enough time? >> we can push it back for a month or so. is that fine? >> commisioner joseph: when is the next meeting in september? >> that is fine for me. is it ok if i have the pool tables in their bacere? >> i think you can.

>> just the pool tables. >> a motion for staff ith respect -- with respect for a request for continuance. but not the pool tables. >> you can coordinate -- she has a list of community groups in the neighborhood. i certainly suggest that you speak to the supervisor's office as well. and make sure the community groups they are concerned with as well that you reach out to. >> that is fine. >> make sure you get the security plan to us. >> it is ok with the president, i would like to make a motion we continue for discussion.

if i can request to make it clear, a motion for the staff to direct us with respect to the request for a continuance on the place of entertainment. >> that is fine. >> you can coordinate with joycelyn. >> make sure you get the security plan. >> if it is a depressant, i

would like to make a motion and we can move it forward. >> does want to say that i talk to -- and i know that he is concerned about entertainment in his neighborhood. one of the things that i would like to do is volunteer some time. i would really like to have you help contact the neighbors. >> i live two blocks from this place. i know that has the potential to be a positive feature.

i know this is our standard procedure. we treat everyone the same. i don't want to come back to this commission under any circumstances, so we are trying to make sure that you succeed. i want to give you that precursor. >> thank you. >> ok, i will entertain a motion. >> my motion is this, i move to bifurcate the permit application and approve the billiard tables. at the applicant's request, continue a place of entertainment permit to the first meeting that we are going to have in september from whatever that date is.

that's it. i think that is everything. >> second. >> may ask one more question? >> sure. "we sent the picture in and week posted it loudly and clearly. >> you will have to repost. >> i think we should have made a deal. >> ok. >> all right. moving on. the next item, steve johnson,

doing business as underground sf. >> this has been in operation for some time. this is a bar in the lower 8 neighborhood. -- lower haight neighborhood. >> don't touch it. >> i have a really good relationship with the seller who has been facilitating the transfer of the business. he is here with me today. i am happy to answer any questions you have regarding my application for my neighborhood outreach. we are keeping the name the same come this jury staff the same,

the bartender's the same. i really stepping in to replace sean's role. i have been a fan of this neighborhood anbar from the second that i opened this restaurant. i loved it when i went to college here. it has always been a dream of mine to start a small business. when this opportunity came before me, it was a perfect fit. i have a ton of respect for it. i have listened to the group for suggestions that they have to help keep the character. >> commissioners, questions. >> seeing none, >> i had a question. one thing that came to me is that you live right above the establishment. >> yes.

in one part of the application, it shows in your address is 173 summer. >> that is my current address. i purchase the building as well as the business so was the final closing, i will become a tenant in the back. courts would you call the police if there are problems downstairs -- >> will you call the police if there are problems downstairs? >> [laughter] i have made myself available to the leaders of the neighborhood. we have been in contact and i have participated in their meetings. i have made myself available should they want to answer questions. a few of them have contacted me and we have worked a little bit to try to participate in the lower haight art walk. >> i just want to say that san

francisco will suffer a gray loss with mr. soprano of in back to the east coast the. i am sorry to see you go. as a former new yorker, you had better keep in touch. >> any other commissioners? ok, we'll see if there's any public comment. is there anyone from the public that would like to address this application? seeing none, it is in the hands of the commission. >> can i have a motion? >> i move that the application be approved and including i suppose all the conditions set forth by the captain. >> a second. >> second. >> please call the roll.

>> ok. good luck. i'm sure that it will help improvement to the neighborhood. >> thank you very much for your time. >> moving on, item six. commissioners comments and questions. >> i just wanted to take a minute to think a few people for being able to be here on this side of the partition tonight. i look forward to working with all of you. thank you for doing the of reach the day after i got passed through because that meant a lot. i appreciate it. it made me feel more secure. i wanted to think -- and everyone who works with him for all the help that they did. also the supervisors, i was

passed in an 11-0 vote. i hope to do him proud and i would like to thank him for all of his art work and i hope to continue. i look forward to working with all of you. >> ok. item number seven, new business request. seeing none -- >> joslyn, have we completely abandoned the annual party? that is the big question. >> the annual party for the end of the year or the birthday party?

>> the birthday party. >> the birthday party. >> no, i don't think that we have abandoned it. >> what about the elections? >> the commission decided to take it that we will calendar.