amendment written by the consultant. >> why don't we put a motion on the table and then we will take public comment? is there a motion to approve item number 12? >> so moved. >> is there a second? >> second. >> why don't we take public comment before we take a vote? >> good afternoon. we represent the green party and the local grassroots organization. i would like to clarify what the advocates are asking for. what we're asking for is not a change of any of the current terms of the contract. that is not what this is about. the scope of work document that you have looked at which is about 19 pages, that is a

product of ourselves, the advocates for local power, and the staff of the puc working together to come up with the tasks under the current contract that would be played out under this contract extension. this does not change any terms at all, all it does it specify that the puc staff is planning for this contract to do under the current contract. this is just a description of the work tasks. maybe there are some things with the legal thing, if that is a problem, we would just call this a set of tasks words. at any rate, to get to the substance of what was brought up in the previous item, so what

this two page is from advocates asking you to attach that scope of work to your resolution, not as an amendment but just as indicating the expected work that local power will do under its current contract and we have advocates. the stuff of talking about, we have come up over many months, worked diligently with the staff to come up with all of these work tasks. we have gone to a bit of an impasse in that we want them in the scope of work that you have all seen. the puc said they would prefer a different approach and not only between ourselves as the groups that showed up today but in consultation with a lot of stakeholders, environmental justice groups, labor groups, community justice, jobs justice,

have received what the pcr result proposed saying that those are not adequate to get all of those things that i was talking about in the last item and how this would affect the overall program. it is crucial you not only approve this contract but had this set of amendment to your resolution and attach the work we want done so it is clear that you are saying to staff that those are the tasks we want to see so that when we too powerful program, this actually has good economics, etc. >> of course, if we had agreed, we would not have this conversation and the staff would oppose this because the point is that we don't believe that this is the appropriate work. this is not something we would want to pay for.

>> mr. brooks is giving a scope of work and he just to find it as the language which is not in scope of work but rather an indication of what would be done anyway. >> i don't want to get hung up on the terminology. we believe that we can amend the contract. we can work with whoever to figure out what those tasks are. mr. brooks would like you to accept the list that has been prepared that we have objected to. we do not believe these of the tasks that are appropriate. we would like it to be included so that you can force the staff to agree with them rather than the regular negotiation process. >> we should not because --

i would be happy to go over this. this continue refers back to the 2007 ordinances which talk about a 360 megawatt program. we offered you a 30 megawatt program and one was to reduce debt and some because of the risk involved. trying to implement a program that we are not trying to implement is a strange thing to try to get someone to do. we're looking at a rollout and having someone to work for the 60 megawatt program which would make no sense to me. that is the general concept. >> can i ask for clarification? the 30 megawatt was for the shell portion. that peace is on a local builder out portion, right? >> let's talk about the

financing. what we want to do is to financial assistance. the way that you build something is that you have investors or customers. what they would like us to do is to build something with need their. the only investors would be the puc. if we don't have any program, we have no customers. thinking that there is a program that you could build out local generations without a source of funding does not really work. i think that some of the stakeholders have understood which took us several years to explain that they're not free. if you issue bonds, someone must pay them back. if you're going to issue bonds, you have to of customers to pay

them back or have some revenue stream to pay them back. that is not a clear concept that is in this scope. this scope says that you should be building. that is not something that works for me. there is a lot problems to try to go out and see how you might do a pro forma so that you could build something, be happy to work on that. if you would do solar, how you would afford to pay for it, all the regulations that you deal with, that would be a great scope of work. you have to go out and change the permits or two different things to be able to do these build ounce, happy to work on that. if you want to pick out the sites and figure out where you will build something and you have no financing plan to build it and to avoid the discussion,

that is not make any sense which is why now we have had any. >> they have not said there was an interest in doing that. >> i would like to talk about the general manager to work more closely with the stakeholders and see if we can come to some sort of agreement on a scope of work that feels like value added to this program because this would build the pieces. there's a lot of value to be added from this group and we need to figure out the best way

to come to terms with what would work. >> that is why i think the general manager's position is reasonable. >> i have been at the table for a lot of meetings with the puc and they did put forward their version of the plan which is to do it at an early meeting. it was not going to produce the sort of comprehensive information we need to veto a local builder out plan. if you can't do that and look at this work and see which one you think would actually get you a comprehensive information you would need, the kind of scope of work they have been offering is the issue that has been at the project here and there without a full understanding of the analysis of what is needed and different financing offices -- options.

i must say that i did not like the misrepresentation that advocates use of the bonds. i don't know if that was directed at me or someone else but i wondered who was it. are really think that is in his characterization of what we're doing and what our understanding of these issues is. i wanted to say the commission that the language in the e-mail, the town of it or whatever, i did not draft it and i would not have chosen that tone or whenever. what we were trying to do is express that we feel that we need to get this information to deal with the questions and concerns that were raised about the other aspects of the program and to not lead us forward into the real strategy. if we had had that information earlier, i feel like the

questions are coming now that came up for us in february. we are just getting stalled without having staff really get this information and maybe they don't think they need it. looking at the sticker shock of what that is costing, i look at the sticker shock of those rates as making the program very hard to be accessible. what we were trying to do is try to inform that if we're not able to get the puc to get this information and to form the program, then we will be looking for a place where we can get the information for you we would rather that the commission to

reps -- rather the commission directed staff to do this. we would like to get this information so that we can move forward. >> thank you. >> i would like to follow-up on that and say that as a further correction perhaps at our meeting, we could have a report back on what has happened with this conversation and if this is not work, it will be really specific to local builder out. it sounds like there is information they need in order to put together a comprehensive plan and whether it should be information -- it seems to me that mike is the director of the program and is the navigator of

the ship. if we can get some of that information and depends on what the resolution will be in the next meeting, as part of the terms of discussion, that would be quite helpful. >> in terms of giving staffed direction, we are at a point that is considerably down the road. i think that has been significant progress. i am interested in getting the information we need to deliver our program. we're the people who will be responsible for it working or not. whatever scope of work is given

to whatever contractor is part of our effort to get the interest in need to deliver our program and not part of an effort to create some the else's program. i think that is part of the direction. >> thank you. question afternoon. to grab an analogy used earlier to look at the situation with you blind men are in a room with the elephant and they are unable to see it for what it is, one man will grab the trunk, say it is a snake. perhaps, another will grab a leg.

the jobs are absolutely critical. sometimes, you get caught in to analogies and they can be twisted and for those that have offended, i apologize. >> thank you. >> thank you. are there felt further public comments on item 12? >> i would like to bring up --

for a moment >> can you talk about a local builder out? >> this is to do generation and the efficiency contact. earlier, there is a discussion of jobs.

this is an essential portion to the program. >> we had an issue related to studding something and this seems to me like you can put that on the blocks but sometimes that is not always that easy. with respect to the job opportunities in the southeast sector, what does that look like? >> this can range. this can range from electrician jobs and solar panels and from labor, this entails a variety of different aspects that people have and that people will be able to build a towards. >> thank you.

>> i want to reiterate my support for any bill that because i feel that that is one of the great promises. this is because of the jobs component and transport and energy long distances, we're not contract in. that will get us through this first phase. i encourage the staff to work with stakeholders and work with the staff to come up with a viable financial plan to make it happen. >> and generate as many jobs as possible. any other questions or comments on item number 12? is there a motion to adopt? >> there was a motion. >> thank you, the item carries.

>> the next item is a closed session. is it any item on the closed session? >> 15, a threat to public services. 16, conference with real property negotiator. 70, conference with legal counsel. >> is there a motion to move to closed session? >> so moved. >> closed

>> there was action taken on item 16. and no other items. is there a motion to not disclose any further items? second? all in favor? opposed? any new business? hearing none, the meeting is adjourned.

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continuing to invest in the city and create jobs. we have talked a little bit about at&t's dedication to san francisco. we have a few public servants here. also years and years of dedicated service for the city as well. i am proud to have mayor ed lee with us today as well as the president of the board of supervisors david chiu. >> good morning, everyone. i am here to make sure the new and additional customers of at&t to what i think is really important -- they all call the giants'. at our at&t park. i want to thank ken and kerry for inviting me your.

i am excited about this flagship store. they are doing it the right way. we have so many companies looking at how they can meet their corporate philanthropy and responsibilities. at&t has done that correctly. they all worked very closely with our board. i congratulate david chiu and the board for their decisions. they recently allowed at&t to launch their uverse. many customers have said, i want an alternative to what is happening, and so they have cut that alternative. they will be helping the best they can and balancing that with neighborhood policies as well. i know at&t will do that. they have promised to do it. it will be a good product. i also want to thank at&t because being such a good company to work with, they have done other things for our city.

in addition to increasing employment here, offering service, making sure they were a global company, and global visitors here that's terry and ken mentioned. they are looking for things to partner up with us. one of the leading things it is a hand-held mobile phones for them in emergency services. all of those have been donated by at&t, because of their recognition of increasing community policing, working with these ambassadors to speak eight different languages in our neighborhoods, and helping them prevent crime, making sure the community is safe. they have invested in that as well. that just reflects another good,