association, asian, lgbt, etc.? how do you communicate with those different groups, especially when it comes to ideas like promotion? >> i have been meeting with all the groups regularly on the career development plan. anybody that calls for a meeting gets a meeting. the only thing that is a little bit -- not a concern, but the way the rule is -- with regard to the sergeant test and the lieutenant test, it is a rule of five. years ago they might have had 50 officers. most lists, unless there is a demonstrable reason why, or rank order lists. >> did you have regular meetings with these poa's?

>> i do not have regularly scheduled meetings with them. as peg groups by me with them regularly. >> thank you. thanks for your hard work. >> dr. marshall? >> if this question has been asked, i apologize. in your 100 days, do you plan to take a look at the recommendations of the report and make a decision on which ones you want to keep and which ones you want to jettison? what are your thoughts? >> a couple of the things, a lot of the perf report spoke about another layer of bureaucracy. staffing levels, that is not

where i think would be the best place to expand our resources. i would rather as we have done shranink control so the officers we do have have a control that is more manageable and tell them, do their job. i do like investigators. i have been a proponent of that. that was mentioned in the efficiency plan. i do like the special victims unit, putting the special victim operations, that was also in the report. and then as we go through it, i know they spoke to technology and the like. it is our reference the naidoo looked at. but i do have my own ideas and participated in the plan. it almost looks like the same document absent a few recommendations. >> when you are ready we can

bring that whole thing back and say this is what we're going to keep. this is what we're going to let go. the city spends much money on these we do not want them hanging over the department. we can make a decision over which of those things we would like to see incorporated. >> some of them are outstanding and some of them are already in place. >> i would like your opinion on all the things in their you would like -- all the things in there you would like to see. whenever you are ready to do that. >> thank you. we will turn it over to public comment. i want to thank you. >> you have talked about this fountain. my assistant, i would love to tell you but if i do i would be a liar. christine worked on this and had so much patience with the herd

cats behind me as we all contributed to this and it did come out well. i appreciate christine being there. >> thanks terry you enter command staff for their leadership. none of this would not have happened if you did not have buy in. thank you. >> we sat outside -- said that the poa has been on board. 3b, please. >> the director's report and review of recent activities. >> good evening commissioners and members of the public. i cannot follow the chief so i will make mine brief. we have no recent developments to report. thank you. >> any questions for the chief

investigator? let's move onto line item 3c. >> the commission report. commission president's report followed by commissioners reports. >> i of nothing to report. commissioner kingsley? >> commissioner kingsley: we did go to the san francisco organizing project meeting. and wanted to add a few more comments on that in addition to -- who was one of the invited guests to speak. this was the organization's meeting. there was also invited guests, the captain of the station and the tenet of sullivan -- lt.o'sullivan was substituting for the captain on vacation. there were -- in terms of the

san francisco police department in addition to the invited guests, there were -- there was a significant presence not only what of other command staff, members of the command staff there, but also a number of officers within the departments. there was a good representation and cross-section of the police department. commissioners to my command staff, officers there in support of this coalition of religious groups and school groups and it was kind of a hopeful turn in terms of some of the other organizations since the unfortunate incident that happened about a month ago. in terms of the organization coming together and a couple of the young speakers there. i believe they were -- indicated

that the police is our ally. working with us. everybody being committed with a plan to go forward. as the chief indicated with billions -- buy ins to help the committee reduce the violence in the community and make the debut of a safer place to live. i found it very encouraging. in terms of what the community put together. i think the department's presence and support of it was important. >> thank you. commissioners germ terman: overe last month or so, i experienced serious health issues and i

would like to thank the members of this commission, especially president mazzucco. for your daily tech fans -- check ins and care and concern. i learned it is true that if you do not have your health, you do not have anything. is your care and concern that has made me want to redouble my efforts to make sure i do a good job here. thank you for your -- i am 110% now. >>commissioner chan: i wanted to announce and will do it prematurely. i want this to happen. this b.i.t. applications will hopefully be out next week. -- dacey i.t -- the cit

applications will be out next week. the city could use your service. especially with dealing with mental health crisis -- crises. and to help the stakeholders who put together the training that will be launched in the next couple of months. i think it will be at to week or so turnaround to apply for the position. i do want to get the word out there. >> thank you. line-item 3d. announcements and scheduling . is there anything we need to discuss tonight? >> the chief gave such an impressive report i am most

reluctant to bring this up. at one point when we were talking, you indicated the academy and it looks like we will get an academy this year and you have indicated at an earlier meeting that there would be testing for qualified applicants. i wanted to put out there that as soon as you have had the thoughts and everything together in terms of what you are looking for in canada its, it would be of interest as it would be two other commissioners to see what those " the taste -- qualification criteria would consist of and not only let us know but also an opportunity for the public to be -- hear it at the commission meeting. if you could let us know what day that would be.

and reasonable to do it. keeping in mind the actual date of the testing. >> is that something fellow commissioners think is something that -- if we want to spend commission time? >> i will talk with hr. commissioner chan: i wanted to let the other commissioners know that we did a calendar for september 14. an action item/discussion to improve our services to officers. that we will work on with the annett to look at what are some of the best practices out there and also wet they would like to see to improve the unit and come back to this group to figure out what we need to do to take

action that evening. i also wanted to put on our screen language access. we did -- language access remained in the top tier. i want to calendar this for october. for us to come back and get an update from the folks in the department who language -- handle language access to see where we were with the general order -- order that was passed in 2007. also with the equal access report that we've received a copy of a few weeks ago, the department along with many other departments work audited to see where they were and we were good in some places and other places we were not. the presentation should include not only where we were with implementing parts of the dgo, how often these services are used but also where we are with meeting their requirements in the equal access ordinance which is a requirement in all report

-- departments. i am wondering what day would be good. >> i am available all month. commissioner chan: october 5? >> do we agree, october 5? >> commissioner chan: language access. also wanted to ask for -- to do a deeper presentation about the status of any pending general orders and policy proposals. we received that packet but we need time to ask questions and for us to highlight what our priorities are in terms of d go's. twe need to give the department time to put that together?

i wondered if we want to schedule that for october or september. >> we do not have much scheduled for october. we have a few items for september. it might be a good thing to do the week after the lep presentation or a week after. maybe the 12th? commissioner chan: thank you. president mazzucco: commissioner dejesus. commissioner dejesus: i assume we're going to look into this and you will report back. supervisors may be looking at legislation and we need to be in the forefront in terms of leadership. i wonder if you are reporting back next week or the following week on the resolutions that were in portland and how do we go forward? >> we contacted poor land in an

effort to find out the status of the resolution and we are told according -- we were told the resolution was in force and they had a less formal agreement. copies were provided of the resolution. in an effort to find out how why was misinformed or if i was misinformed, or what the confusion is, capt. murphy was the one who spoke to portland and i will ask him to be here next wednesday so we can clear it up. >> city hall will not be available. >> maybe we can take him. or have him here the following week. >> this is something we will explore and have on calendar and have some leadership.

>> i met with former presidents sparks and we talked about the bureau order and took recommendations from the human rights commission and we are redrafting that order. even mr. crew was satisfied. it appeared to close the gap, although the concern was it is not permanent. a new chief could undo what the order says. we are working on making its current to all the recommendations from commissioner sparks' group. making sure it is the policy and procedures of the san francisco police department and the statutes and ordinances of the city that are trumped and any other rules that may be in play. >> i look forward to hearing the report. commissioner terman: i want to say that as of last week,

although i appreciate us discussing our priorities and scheduling, language access was one of the things that i wanted to make a priority. i would like us to remember that we did go last week that commissioner kingsley and myself, we would sketch out a plan to schedule those things. so we arinder -- we can get buy in and remember that all issues are covered. i do not have an issue of was pulling out individually but if we are doing this in an organized fashion, we have to do it in an organized fashion. president mazzucco: we have announcements. >> we will be going dark next week and the following week, we will be meeting at to roosevelt middle school in the richmond district and that is at 6:00

p.m. the next meeting will be here at city hall september 7. >> can you repeat that? >> we will be receiving e-mail communications from you. it is posted online. president mazzucco: is there any public comment? >> good evening once again. i have one brief comment, more like a question. recently, we had an addition to this commission, mr. turman. brought in by the board of supervisors based on his background and talent.

is there some sort of secret list on how many a policeman there are and which ones and which ranks and if you have some sort of privileged information to that degree, could you share with the public at large? i am aware of four days supervisors -- four gay supervisors and i did not know there was a secret list about gay policeman. if you have one, i suggest you share it with the public at large. i think there is no criteria in the city that i know of that determines that you should be a sergeant or lieutenant commander based on your sexual background. it should be based on your ability. based on your ability as a policeman. not your sexual orientation.

i know of no city in the united states that has the law like that on its books today that we now have to keep a list of police officers and firemen as to what their sexual orientation is and see if they're moving up the ladder to fire chief for chief of police. based on their sexual background. i leave this to the commission. if mr. terman has a list of such, where does he get it and why is it not public information? that is all i have, i think you for time. >> we do not respond or nearly. this is the most diverse police department in the country. i saw that in my career as a federal prosecutor. one thing people seem to forget is when you are a member of the san francisco police department, it is irrelevant as to who you

are, your race, sexual orientation, religion, when an officer calls for back up, no one asks, they respond. when citizens call, the response. this police department is a family. one of the highest ranking members of the pride lands is wearing my father's badget and i talked to him frequently, as frequently as last week. there is no secret list. they are members of the family. a family that is sworn to protect and serve the city and someone's sexual orientation is irrelevant. this is an incredible department and i am proud. commissioner terman: i made myself clear that diversity helps us connect to our communities in ways that are beneficial to the greater

community at large. so, i do not know of any secret list. as for reference brought in by supervisors and there being four supervisors, i do not know what that is a reference to. i was elected by 11 of 11 supervisors to sit where i am today. thank you. >> i stand before this commission. it represents the community. i have nothing further to say. anything further? thanks for the public comment. public comment is closed. >> item 4. public comment on -- and a vote whether . >> whether to hold item 6 in

closed session. dr. marshawe are holding closed.