mental health issues, patrol special, mental health for officers, there's nightclub -- we moving that one. there's undocumented, victims of community policing. i guess the fundamental question for me is how this list is used in terms of scheduling items because i don't think it's been used at all since we put it together and what i questioned last year was the usefulness of the list if we're not going to use it to refer to it in terms of scheduling, so that seems to be -- no matter what we put on here, if we're not going to use it, i don't get that. i don't get that. even when things have come up, i don't think anybody said listen, this is first tier item, second tier item, third tier item. so i'm still -- for me, it's just easier to say we're going to pick five and go after them and so i question the usefulness of this, i guess, at this point because we haven't really referred to it at all since the

retreat. that's my issue with this thing. we can reform the list. we can put you priorities in. you can put second. you can put third. i'm not sure you need -- this is me. three tiers, seems like you only need a top tier but that's just me. and then the scheduling piece, it seems like if we're going to use it, we should refer to this before we schedule something, that's all. >> well, one suggestion would be one or two commissioners work with the lieutenant and get a broad calendar put together where we schedule these things and schedule them in accordance with the priorities that are determined by the commissioner as a whole, so the scheduling does happen. president mazzucco: or another way would be at the end of the month that we look at the list and say, we covered this, we

covered this, we covered this and why don't we pick this up in the month of whatever. but not to use it at all is what i'm confounded with. we haven't used it at all f we're not going to use it, to me, let's get rid of it. that's my point. so either your suggestion -- which is a good one or my thought is to at least have it on the agenda so we can refer to it. what do you think? >> i would go with the schedule ahead of time, like the brady issue, it takes a lot of time to do it. what we would schedule is when it comes before the commission but 99% of the work happens before it gets to the commission. calendar ahead of time, having one or two people do that, would be helpful. with the caveat that emergencies do come up, unexpected things come up. just because they're not on this list doesn't mean we can't talk about them and potentially calendar them. president mazzucco: what i here is a suggestion for a couple commissions to work with lieutenant on calendaring --

>> yes. president mazzucco: over whatever period of time? >> the next year to half year. because we go from times to meetings at midnight from other time where's we don't need to have a meeting and we can balance it. and maybe if we balance our workload better, we won't be here until 10:00 or 11:00 at night. president mazzucco: knowing we still have to keep the third wednesday for disciplinary matters. i'm fine with that. >> i volunteer to work with -- president mazzucco: you would be volunteered anyway. >> that's why i thought i would say that. >> i'm on too many committees. i would execute some of these priorities. i will hold off for now. >> commissioner, would you like to do that since that would be -- >> certainly, i would be glad to work with you. yes. ok. president mazzucco: we probably have to reorganize this a little bit. they have challenge there and i think they need to move a little bit on this tonight.

ok. there's nothing else. commissioners, we will take a public comment on item number three. >> patricia boyd. i haven't planned to stay but i'm waiting for another committee to my term. i was disturbed by the nightclub violence in the marina, we're having more and more nightclub violence. with one bar that's advertising in east oakland bringing a hip-hop group over. another one who has continual pub crawls and it's becoming, three windows have been broken in the last 12 months. ambulances have been called on other issues, and i think we may -- i would like to keep this as a higher priority for our neighborhood at least. we have another one that was closed for a shooting. and it doesn't look like if what we're getting is a replacement.

i'm trying to be open minded on this one. the police staffing i think is very important. i think we're too short and we need to campaign royally for more police officers. d.n.a. and sexual assaults is very, very important from someone who's worked with it and i worked with people who have been molested quite often. and it's a real problem. the one that -- i had one down here, racial profiling, i would like to discuss some things with each one of you on this. it's some incidents that i know about. and i don't want to turn anybody in yet. i think we need to work on a better system concerning the education of our academy, our kids coming out of the academy on this one. the nightclub one is very important to me.

i have a question to ask because i have a problem, is it legal to have police scanners and not be at the police department? i would love for somebody to call and answer that question to me. and that's about it. i think this is a good idea to at least identify your things and how you bring them to the hearings, i really don't care. but on this nightclub violence, we're getting it. and we've got several issues concerning ft. mason, having these drink fests, all the beer you can drink and we're ending up with the remnants, the remnants, the union street fair was much better this year. but i think we need to start worrying about the america's cup, too, in this neighborhood and the number of people that are going to be there and drinking. thank you. president mazzucco: further public comment on this item? yes, sir.

>> pi want to speak on the preece priorities and specifically in the bayview, in the district 10 community, i feel like a lot of officers are dispatched to the community because of the violent crime, but we have a lot of officers giving out excessive citations every day, and i feel like this doesn't help stop the crime. it doesn't help solve violent crime. i mean, when it's three officers messing with a drunk, that gives a killer an opportunity to get

away. i saw three opportunities ride up on a t train platform and at the same time they were giving somebody a citation. while they were giving somebody a citation, somebody got shot and the shooter got away. so i just feel like your priorities need to be looked into. and we're criminalized every day on third street, third and pellew particularly. police hop and trains and criminalize our youth. they don't do it in any other neighborhood. and that's why kenneth harding jr. was slain and i have been chased down by police for not having the right fare on a muni train. so it's not an isolated incident but i definitely want you guys to think about and address and

-- and address these concerns. i'm not the only one. the neighborhood this they have in our neighborhood. if our neighborhood is so bad, why are you messing with the drunks and jay walkers and not killers and racists and robbers and thieves. >> thank you, sir. further public comment? >> good evening, once again, gentlemen. i would like to speak very briefly, the gentleman that just spoke, i think he's absolutely correct. if you place priorities that are nonviolent in front of priorities that are violent crimes, you tend to have something that you really don't want. if you look at this list -- and maybe i'm reading it wrong -- that language access is more important than nightclub violence or nightclub violence is more important than domestic

violence, shooting at moving vehicles. i mean, it seems like the most important item that a policeman would address themselves to would be actual violence against other people. whether it be domestic violence, shooting at an automobile, shooting at another person should be at the top of the list. unless i'm reading this list wrong. somebody can correct it down the road. but you have a lot of items here that are backwards. in terms of what the priority would be in a given community with a lot of crime. or just a mixed bag of crime. and i bring it up to you because, you know, coincidentally, we had a police chief, who is now a district attorney and he's running

against other people who want to be district attorney, but you had a murder in the marina right next to where he lives. as a matter of fact, the blood was dripping off the same steps where he walked up in the evening. what i saw was a group of police officers out there one night, and then it was over. a couple posters in the area and that was it. it took two days for the post office to wash the blood off the street. so i just bring that up, i think violence of any kind, whether it's shooting, knifing, somebody's getting shot in a nightclub, this goes on nonstop in this city. that you -- these should be top priorities out of any given time or the time 24/7. that's my only addition to this. thank you.

>> further public comment? hearing none. public comment period is closed. i think you want to return to -- mr. chan return to item 2-d, to calendar an item? >> that's right. i would like to calendar the mental health for officers improving the counseling of the health services for officers for september. and i'm looking at september 14th or september 28th, if there's not a committee meeting. and if that doesn't work, i'm ok with october. i think we should revisit what we started last week. >> we have it for the 14th, when you mentioned it last week. >> wonderful. thank you. >> made the list and calendar. president mazzucco: ok. then we will now call item number five, please -- >> four. president mazzucco: four, sorry. >> item number four is public comment on all matters pertaining to item 6 below,

closed session -- disciplinary cases, including public comment on vote whether to hold item 6 in closed session. president mazzucco: public comment? hearing none, item number five police. >> item five is vote on whether to hold item 6 in closed session. >> president mazzucco:? motion. >> i move we hold it in closed session. >> second. president mazzucco: without objection, we will move into closed session. and we must clear the room. >> we're back in open session. going to item seven, vote to whether to elect any or all discussion on six in closed session. >> move not to disclose. >> second. >> without objection, so ordered. item number eight, please. >> item number eight is adjournment. >> move to adjourn. >> second. president mazzucco: the meeting

is adjourned. thank you very much. thank you. >> thank you, mr. president.

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