proof to pursue any arrest or conviction. that showed me very blatantly where we stand as a priority for the city and for the district attorney's office. in that particular shot, i have had people and staff hit, from things at, you name it. they say, can we call the police? i say it is pointless. >> we are concerned about the safety of our employees. we are concerned about the safety of our patrons and the viability of our businesses. at some point, yes, we have to talk to them. if it would be something that we

can discuss -- >> i assume it is happening all over the place. >> it is. business people in chinatown has just given up. it is part of the cost of doing business. there is no consequence. that is number one. the second thing that has come to my attention is this to work charges being three times the cost of water for businesses. i think we need to discuss further or go into some depth about adjustments for that type of rest fronts, bakeries, salons, the type of business. if we get more sophisticated water cleaning technology, the sioux were tax is predicated on the usage. grease is being captured and resold. we're putting water saving technologies into our

businesses. the water revenue goes down, the sewer tax goes down because they raise the rate. we have a catch-22, consumption declines, revenue declines, so what does the water department do? it raises rates. we are being penalized year. what i would like to investigate further is, our small businesses paying too much? are we subsidizing mcdonald's, those larger users? are we subsidizing them? are we paying too much? how do you slow down the rate of increase in the still make the investment in the infrastructure that we need? we just had a large rate increase in stores, we have businesses looking to move. that is how this came to my attention and why i would like to put it on the agenda.

we have a bakery that wants to expand in our district, but when they find out what these two were the and the charges are, the ongoing charges, this might make san francisco not attractive to them. and again, another reason to move out. i would like to look at this issue from a small business perspective. street cleaning and public own property, the city has been very aggressive at looking at the conditions of the sidewalks. replacement of the sidewalks, squares, cleaning them, they're quite aggressive about it. i did a walk and surveyed city property. i would like to know if the mta and the housing authority as well as other city agencies are applying the same standards to their property.

when i look at the condition of the sidewalks in front of public housing, i am not seeing that. i would like to know from the city that they are making the same investment that they are asking the small business property owners to make as well. my final new business is looking into a locally owned bank. there is momentum at the state level to create a state-owned bank on the model of the bank of north dakota. this is a bank that works for depositors and would invest in california. or if it would be possible to do for san francisco to follow the same model. a bank that earns money on its investments made in san francisco or by san francisco might be worth creating. they perform is practically impossible, it is controlled by lobbyists retained by the industry. landing at the local level is

very challenging. local bankers have lost almost all discretion. decisions are made thousands of miles away that our defensive in nature while solid investment decisions evaluated on their own merits are passed by, ignored, or basically stalled out of existence. this is a city that is so wealthy. it controls billions of dollars. pension fund, bond fund, why not look at creating our own bank and keep the competitive funds for our own needs. that concludes my new business. commissioner o'connor: wasn't the bank of america originally called the bank of san francisco? the bank of italy, right. >> they are laying off 30,000 people. president o'brien: that closes that item.

>> item 21, adjournment. >> i move. >> i second. president o'brien: the motion is passed without objection.

>> i would like to call the meeting of the san francisco public utilities commission to order. [roll call] >> commissioner courtney is excused attendance today, he is out of the states. >> if there is no objection from my fellow commissioners, i would like to take item number 7a out of order and next on the agenda.

and supervisor campos will have a chance to make some remarks before he goes on to his next meeting. supervisor campos: thank you, commissioner and general manager. i want to thank his commission for its service to the city and county of san francisco. i am here today in my capacity as chair of the local agency formation commission and to talk about where we are in a very important project that we have been working on for quite some time. a lot of work has been done by staff and it is something we

have been working on for quite some time. i think we have now reached a crossroads, a critical point in the history of this project. i of the project has been before the commission at different times and at some point will be before the commission as an action item. i am here to talk about the need for us to jointly have a public and open discussion about where this project is, and to talk about the scope of community choice aggregation. there was a term sheet that was being worked on and at some point will come before this commission. and rightly, members of this commission have raised concerns and questions about the sheik, which is a typical part of any discussion of this magnitude.

i believe it is important for us to have a joint discussion in public so that we, as agencies, are charged with the responsibility of seeing the implementation of this program can be on the same page and that we can also provide the entire public an opportunity to hear our thoughts and an opportunity to provide their input. lived in trying to put a joint meeting together for quite some time, and i wanted to take the opportunity before our board of supervisors' meeting to say that we will make this joint meeting a priority. a top priority. we will try to make ourselves available so we can provide the public the benefits of that joint discussion with the understanding that the conversation is ongoing. i know different dates have been

provided to the commission and to summarize some of the possible dates, i know that we have talked about september 23, that is when our meeting is scheduled. there is a meeting on october 4 and october 11, that is a tuesday. the thinking is that we could do a joint meeting prior to the board of supervisors meeting and prior to your meeting since tuesday we happen to be here anyway. if there are other dates that are more convenient for members of the commission, i know we're talking about a number of the jewels -- individuals that have very busy schedules. it is important to have that discussion and have that opportunity available to the city and county of san

francisco. we believe is a time line that we should try a as much to stick to. i think that really calls for the need to have this joint meeting sooner rather than later. i want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak to you. my apologies to members of the public, but we have a board of supervisors meeting in a few minutes and i wanted to take the opportunity to be here and ask for that. >> i want to thank you for your service to the city and county of san francisco and ultimately, the state of california. it was an honor to represent your parents in the state senate. i think it is an important issue and i think you and i both cared deeply about how we treat their money and how to do it wisely.

>> that jurisdiction misses you in southern california. >> i want to thank you as well for your leadership on this issue. and we are working diligently to come forward with a term sheet and with a scope of work that is flexible so we can have a productive conversation. we are going to let you go unless other commissioners have comments and we will spend time trying to find a date as soon as possible. >> staff will be available here that if there is any need for discussion on our end, we are here. thank you for your work. thank you to the general manager for making it possible for me to make that comment. >> do we want to spend a moment trying, since we're all here, to

see if we can schedule a joint meeting with ahead lafco and -- meeting with lafco? did he say the 23rd? that was an option, october 4, 11, 7, 14. >> are friday's bad for you? >> october 11, since we're having a puc meeting, maybe we could do that. >> we have the room but in case we need to meet earlier, so we have the option of using the room that morning in the gives sufficient time between then and now to get all of the paper work together. if october 11 works at 11:00, that might work.

>> i will cancel an event that i have to the act, but i can do that. >> we will need a two-hour meeting, probably. >> it will leave a half hour break between. >> well, that worked. >> check with commissioner courtney. >> i will track him down and that interestingly thwould be 11.11.11 at 11:00. >> better at craps than at meetings. >> would you like to move back to the regular agenda and returned to this item? >> we can continue this discussion unless there are

members of the public anticipating coming later. why don't we return to the regular calendar, just in case there is somebody watching that isn't here at this moment and we'll take it only give back to the general managers' report. >> the next item one b approval of the mets of the regular meeting of july 26 and a special meeting of august 9. if there were any additions, corrections, changes. >> i have a question on the mets of august 9. the discussion was informal, we did not do -- and there was no formal action taken. there were a couple things that seemed to reach consensus, and that may be too strong a word, but it was pretty close.

i have been trying to figure out what the best way of capturing that is. it seemed to be our inclination to continue to make the water supply requirements of our customers. that was summarized in the water supply memo. >> it is coming out today, i believe. >> and there was a summary there. and the other was, we seemed to come to agreement that it would be irresponsible to make major commitments of funds without having to figure out how to make its sustainable over time. for the third item, the clean

water area, we didn't really come to any conclusion. but i like to have them that somehow reflect that. i know what to do violence to the records that exist, which i think those are important statements and i like to see them reflected in the air. >> you can approve the minutes and i can do an amendment submitted to you that reflects this, acknowledged that these were corrections that you made advest -- at this meeting. >> can we approve the july 26 minutes? >> we can even come back to edit the next meeting, there is no rush. >> i did a lot of editing of those minutes because you were not recording every decision.

i cut a lot of that stuff out. >> if we could get another version of those key items highlighted, that would be great. is there a second of the july 26 minutes? all in favor? next item. >> general public comment, we have one speaker card. >> commissioners, i attended a few fans. we had a pretty long meeting at the south facility where we discussed the number of issues. and i took some time to attend the retreat that was just

mentioned in a very general manner. it would be nice to see that the main points from these two meetings are reflected on the web site so that the constituents know exactly what is happening. we're talking about billions of dollars, some have been spent on the tail end of the water system improvement project. we participated in many of those workshops. some of those that did north a have a lot of knowledge. they don't want to come here because of what ever reason. they still do report pretty much in detail in some of the local

newsletters. and what i will do is forward to those articles. what is happening here is that things are liberated, but an important component of employed from people that are advocating the issues, have experience, study the empirical data, i don't feel like coming. and sometimes when i do come and get a little bit riled up, i don't feel good. but we went to the process of the water system improvement project, and now we are dawning upon the source system improvement project, and we know what is happening. and all i am saying is when we have our retreats and to some of the joint meetings, one was

just suggested a little while ago. way back in the year 2000 before some of these people or even commenting, the main point of the projects that benefit the constituents should be put on the internet. because we have eschewed constituents in san francisco that are aware of these issues, aware that water in the future will be like gold. and in my travels, that is what i see. i try to address them. some of us are addressing it in the right manner and to some of us have not gotten there. here in city hall we waste water. i have said that many times. i am not going to go to the board of supervisors, i will

stay. thank you. >> thank you. >> i rose to inform you, the commission's and the people that watch as this program that miss eloise west park passed this morning. her body will be at third street, and you can contact the funeral home to find out the particulars. i would like to say that it is miss west broke that started me on my way when i was a very young woman. and she always stated to me, never back down on anything that you believe in. always speak and speak truth.

and as you know that, i have been speaking on behalf of the community for many years. i am really hurting today. not just because of her death, but just to the that over the last 50 years, we in hunters point have had to fight for everything that we got. it was believed that made sure that the economic opportunity council came to san francisco. she was the one responsible for other cities coming in to san francisco. and everything that we received gradually was removed from my community. and i am one person that is

tired of going to meetings and giving you truth about my community and what is there, and not being listened to. people tell the allies because they are lawyers and you believe what they say. but from this day forward, i want you to start listening to your heart's in your minds to when people come from the community and to speak on behalf of the community and what is happening with them, jobs, and a thing. live been fighting for jobs, health, education. we haven't received none. none. it is sad that just a few of us are left. i was told this morning that there are only four of us left that have been fighting over the years. i am 78 and in five months i

will be 79. but i am going to be here for another 50 years fighting if i have to be on a walking cane because i am not going any place. i want you at the end of your meeting to remember eloise west brought and remembering a. thank you. >> thank you, miss jackson. now would be inappropriate time to take a moment and offer our condolences to you and your community and to the rest of the world for her lost and all of the good work she has done. if we can take a moment right now to appreciate her. thank you, miss jackson.

>> afternoon, commissioners. i again would like to echo the idea that if it is possible for the commission and general manager to attend the service of miss westbrook this thursday, it will be a very important moment because of all the work that mother jackson had expressed. when i first got involved in working with the community, she would tell me a lot of stories about the work together with the model cities agency which they all know has its roots from that wa poverty to community development block grant funding. the citizen's committee on community development that i am honored to serve on the committee that she helped set up. i heard a lot of the stories about the idea of putting the

community to work. what i have learned is that feeling is really of this moment, relying on good faith efforts to get communities to work on these jobs have failed and led the city to move forward on a series of reforms that the general manager was an important supporter of. i think that we are part of a continuum, all of us going back to miss west brother, another jackson, and a lot of us follow on the trail that has been blazed. i think as we seek to address the unemployment in our disadvantaged communities, a lot of the work comes from the work she has done in all of her life. >> we have no other speaker cards. >> communications.

commissioners have copies of all of the materials. i also made extra sets of the letter summary items. >> questions or comments on communications on the calendar? the letters, or the staff reports? >> i have a question. i'm looking at the ongoing calendar. the real estate of dates. at what time can we expect that? >> do want to talk about that? >> a real estate of date in general about the real estate properties and such, we can probably schedule something