the things we cannot cover in case of an emergency. these glasses go on every month. this saturday there is a full training program right here. -- these classes go on every month. i would love to invite you all to come check it out and see if it is a good idea. i agree with the work that is being done. every year we go out there and work. the response we get is basically astonishing. people cannot believe the pictures and work that is done there. we heard tonight about 700 people coming back to the system, to local systems. that is an example of something they could be involved with. finally, in terms of these officers, many people in our union live in el paso in san

diego. conditions right now are extraordinarily dangerous for uniformed and all kinds of officers, because very dangerous people have weapons that are beyond description. i hope we can all promise to protect our officers. thing here. -- thank you. [applause] >> any other public comment? there we go. >> good evening. i have been working for many years with young people's programs here in the mission district and after-school programs and youth, and i am currently working right here in the school.

i was very struck by the program that you have started, and i was wondering if the commission would consider talking to the mayor's office and board of supervisors to try to extend the program and fund it and look towards having the initial graduate come into to worand dor the younger children, because even the denver children are being exposed to acts of violence and other influences that also make them afraid, and i think we have a lot more good kids in the mission that not. there is a tremendous amount of talent and intelligence and hard-working families here that really emphasize education for their children, and as someone who has worked in in formal education, i think the youth are terrific. i would be really happy to help

volunteer in any way it perhaps the program is successful to give the graduate some sense of pride by having them pass it on to the youngsters. looking at some sort of the internship program that would give them an opportunity to share what they are learning -- what they learned. if you could consider doing that, i think preventative services that are affirming use will go a lot longer way been crime suppression type activities, which i realize are unnecessary reality, but looking at ways to engage youth before they get into trouble. thank you very much. [applause] 4 >> hello again. i am a member of the police committee advisory board in district 10 and mission station

as well. i wanted to publicly recognize this fact that i have. the staff recognize me for the violence we were able to help with, but i have to mention my staff. we had canto sleighton. this shows their dedication. it was physically removing you from the hot spot areas. it was being on the other side were the homicide and happened, having a presence there. it was also talking to the police captain daly and letting him know for his officers to know we have people out there with street out reach waters that flow in the dark so at night time they can see it. these are the kinds of things that help, and i would like to pass on that really helped four

other communities that i'd be watching who will check this out of the internet later on, -- for other communities that might be watching on the internet and check back later on. that helped a lot. it worked a lot. i did not want to except credit without touching my staff, because we are no one without our teams we operate with, and i think they deserve proper recognition. we have all moved on to different things because of budget cuts and other factors, but i wanted to give praise to those are reach workers were underpaid, and sometimes out there at night and trying to figure out -- and committee members contributed by making donations for pizza and stuff like that. that is a picture of how community policing does work and how we're making progress. chief suhr, do not take our captain away. we have our capt. for almost two

years, i think, and his has been an incredible help to be able to work with him in this capacity from and not just me, but other non-profits that were mentioned here, and so i just want to encourage that. thank you. [applause] >> and the other public comment? hearing none, public comment is closed. i forgot, commissioners. fo." >> are we going back to the section were commissioners can respond and ask questions? the kosher. -- sure. i know we gave you very short notice to come to the mission and this meeting, and you do very important work, so thank you for hosting us in setting this up and thank you for the

outreach to community members. i think the most well attended community meeting we have had this year, so that shows your connection to the community. think you. i wanted to ask you if your mind walking us through what happens when there is a violent incident in the mission, such as a homicide we of scene and he laid out for us. what are the steps you take to debrief the community and prevent this from happening? you mentioned the saturation and additional help that the cheap did hear from other areas, but what you do in terms of working with the community and what and other district stations learn from us, what you think can be improved upon to prevent more violence in the mission. he got my first question is was a gang-related, because if we confirm right away with gang- related, then we know there will

probably be retaliation. which ever getting was the victim, then we need to flood the resources over the turf of the suspect again in anticipation of retaliation. that is what happened back in february. they were confirmed gang shootings, one gang against the other. it was a vicious cycle back and forth. at that time, we immediately had meetings with the chief of police and myself. we met at mission station with four or five people from various community organizations, and we had a discussion as to what can we do here? we have to put a stop to this. the people from the community organizations, they were out in

the street. they were at spots for the shrines were, because the gang members of the victim gang were there. they were talking to people, trying to deal escalates, and at the same time we have to bolster our forces. i mentioned earlier the importance of our beats. when something like this happens, the first place it goes is to beats. we put them in the area where we know the gangbangers hang out. it only takes three or 4 week for the word to get out, because we have informant telling us this that there still mad at the other day but the heat is on so they're not coming to the mission for any sort of violence. as time goes by, the acrimony

seems to lessen, and unfortunately we have sinned in retaliation, but it was not in the mission district, because the heat was on and the mission. the have shootings in the bayview and then not tapered off. last month we had an increase in violence for about a week, but it was not then vs gain violence. certainly we do not want any violence in the district, but then verses been silenced produces a long string of violence, whereas when it is our personal grievance, someone shoot somebody because they're mad at them,, it will not start again more. so basically it is important to

have those relationships with the community organizations so that they know that the captain is not trying to make them as muc snith,ch, because we realize people working with these guys have to maintain credibility, and if they are seen as too cozy with the police, then they will not be able to do their jobs, so it is fine line we have to walk, but it is doable. i think the proof of the pudding was march 2 was the last confirmed violent act that we have in the district of one again versus the other. -- one gang vs the other. >> the second half of my question was, what do you think

needs to be improved? what are the things that can be done to interrupt the cycle of violence further? it does seem like there are a burst of violence, often times gang-related come and then it is quieter and then comes back again. i am sure you have learned so much and how to reduce that. take ou \>> the only thing i would suggest, and it is tough with the fiscal situation the way it is, but i like to see better funding of some of these community organizations that are very helpful for us. as far as the police department goes, as i said, the chief provides us with everything we need in the mission district to get the job done. i do not think there is anything else i could ask from the apartment, -- from the

department, but some really good people i work with earlier in the year, they're no longer in the position because of budget issues, and i think that is harmful. to go think you. i certainly agree with you. -- >> thank you. supervisor kim professor kingsley: i want to thank the community members that came forward tonight with very all comments and very terrific suggestions, and i think i voice all of the commissioners' office in terms of repair shooting that kind of input, so thank you. capt., your presentation was

also very thoughtful and detailed, and i appreciate that. a statistical question. if there is a theft crime but also involves violence and assault, is that counted as two separate crimes or does one regio -- >> if the more serious crime takes precedence. >> we have to do that because they will not let me count a drug arrest and a felony arrest. >> thanks. but it is great to have that clarification. -- that is great to have that clarification. the other thing is since we do have a televised audience, this might be a terrific opportunity to address prevention. if there are three or five

thoughts you have or ideas in terms of property crime prevention, since that seems to be on the uptick. maybe cell phones, walking and talking on the street or keeping doors locked. are there some sound bite suggestions that you were put out for prevention? >> absolutely. one that you mentioned is a crime of violence is the cell phones. just about 50 percent of our robberies' every month are someone not paying attention to their surroundings, talking on the phone, and somebody who is pretty certain make an hour on the victim just matches the phone and runs off with it. people really need to be aware of their surroundings when they are using their cell phones. and two things on property

crimes. one is the auto burglaries. years ago people used to break into a car to steal their radio, but with technology and all that, that is no longer feasible. the cars the break into now are the cars that have visible -- visible property in the car. if people would not leave laptops, briefcases, cell phones visible in the seat of a car, then that car were not get broken into almost always. the third thing, and i am amazed every day when i read police reports from the night before, these people that go into nightclubs or bars and they put their purse down somewhere and put their code over the packers, and they come back five hours later and they are surprised the purse is gone. this is happening three or four

times a night just in the mission district, and i am sure it happens everywhere. people said things down and walk away from them, and are surprised when it is gone. it should not even be classified as a theft. it should be classified as of rain at something or other. those things as the all the time. and that would greatly reduce those statistics. one thing we do in the mission better read in your report, any business that has a crime take place in that business, someone from my staff will go to that business. for example, we had a gym that the lockers were continually getting broken into. you cannot have surveillance camera and a locker room, but we made it clear, we will have to do something about this.

" up, put a security officer in there, do something, but we cannot have every second or third day are report were someone came to the locker and their wall it was gone or purse was gone. every bar were there is a fight or something get stolen, we give them a visit. we tell them put security cameras in here or security guards, signs up and show some good faith to discourage criminal activity in your business. so we're taking an active role in doubt. also, if we are getting -- and we do get, robbery victims who are intoxicated. we go back to -- if we get information were they have been drinking, we go back to be a double schmidt and emphasize to them the legality of serving

them inebriated, and the fact that we will look closely at that thing if we continue to give victims -- it victims of have been drinking in their place and have gone so intoxicated. >> i just want to thank you for posting this on short notice. i want to thank you for your presentation and all of the work you have done. how long have you served in the san francisco police department? >> i am on my 43rd year. to go that is really impressive. the 244 service. -- >> that is really impressive. thank you for your service. you have seen trends change in the 43 years to have been a police officer. techniques to stop crimes have changed significantly, in your change along with it. i want to thank you very much for your service. >> thank you.

i do have to setup this cheap i ever seen, this guy here. a-- toughest chief i have ever seen, this guy here. >> i want to say thank you, too. commissioners, anything else? that is it. thank you. and [applause] [applause] i>> item 5, items or comments pertaining to a closed session. >> we do have an item that we have to do in closed session, so if there is any public comment on that, now is the time. hearing none, a motion to go to closed section. >> item number six, both on the motion to hold a closed session. -- vote on the motion to hold a closed session.

>> we are going to leave the room. thank you for coming. we appreciate it. we appreciate it. thank you.