supervisor elsbernd: supervisor mirkarimi was not here. there were only three people who voted no. perhaps supervisor mirkarimi will vote yes. if he votes yes, we will not have to have this, so i vote to continue it for one week. president chiu: i have one question for our attorney. could be a menace to include other aspects of the public financing? or does anything have to go back to the ethics commission? maybe we could ask our outside counsel. i think i know the answer to that, i think it is no.

>> if there is a substantial change, it has to go back to -- president chiu: supervisor farrell has introduced this in response to the supreme court case. we have legislation to deal with that. if we are making a change under the same subject matter, to make our system as constitutionally tight as possible, would that fall under a change we can make your at the board without going back to ethics? >> i do not have the exact text, but i understand it has to start at the ethics commission. perhaps you could make a suggestion to the ethics commission and then it comes back to you. >> if you're going to make changes, it has got to be adopted by a super majorities of

both committees. it does have to go back to ethics. the way the wording is, ethics is suppose to acts -- act first, but there is nothing to keep both bodies from acting simultaneously. the only thing that would have to happen in ethics, is a final vote by ethics before it goes to the board. president chiu: when is the next meeting of your commission? >> october 19, which is a special day because our normal day is -- supervisor avalos: any way to have a special meeting? >> i would work to pull a special meeting together if it were necessary. i am sure the ethics commissioners would be as cooperative as possible. just a caveat, they are 5 busy people scheduling meetings. supervisor wiener: i am not

going to fight this, but i have not heard what the proposal is. this has been percolating around since june with a huge process. i would think that if someone had the great idea for how we change the system, that would have come of already and probably would have been packaged with this already. i do not think anyone wanted to amend this without a replacement, if a replacement existed. has the ethics commission come up with a day -- i have not heard any of my colleagues or anyone say that there is some sort of great idea. >> of all of the solutions we analyzed, this was the one that maintained the integrity of the

three purposes of public financing and also addressed the issue of the trigger. supervisor wiener: supervisor farrell's proposal? >> right. the other solutions did not work. there were rumblings that something else would come up. i have not seen anything yet. it is still possible. supervisor campos said maine is working on something that will fit within the framework. they are not done yet. supervisor wiener: i do not know. this is a little perplexing to me. there is literally nothing on the table in terms of this is something you can substitute it with. if that might happen in three months or six months, who knows? i guess we are not making a plea to the three of my

colleagues who voted against this. i just do not understand why we would reject this, given what we know of the state of the law, the lack of a current alternative. there are a lot of smart people involved in this process who will think of one if one exists. we know what is before us right now and what is facing us right now and the severe risks that are facing us. i just do not understand. supervisor farrell: to add to that point, no other jurisdictions, and there are a lot of other jurisdictions, have come up with a solution. this has been around since the summer. no other jurisdictions have come up with a solution. to think we are going to implement something in one week that will stymie a lawsuit and save our taxpayer dollars is a

dream. i am all for finding a long-term solution to this, but right now it is fixing the problem at hand. president chiu: supervisor cohen. supervisor cohen: nothing. president chiu: there is no motion in front of us to rescind this vote. supervisor elsbernd: i will make the motion to rescind or one week and hear from supervisor mirkarimi. president chiu: seconded by supervisor campos. any objection to the motion to rescind? without objection, this motion passes. we will continue this meeting to october 4. supervisor elsbernd: would it be

advisable from the city attorney to continue the closed session item to next week so he can get whatever briefing he might need? president chiu: we ended the closed session. he was with us during a good portion of it. he had chapter duties and had to leave. supervisor wiener: there was a fire with about 25 units or something like that. president chiu: the motion to continue has been passed for one week. thank you to our outside counsel and the head of our ethics commission. why don't we move back to the four-o'clocks special order with regards to west portal's community benefits meeting. clerk calvillo: the return for the voting was 48.92% and the

balance voting against it was 51.08%. there is a majority protest. president chiu: the opponents have prevailed and it would be in order for us to entertain a motion to table. supervisor elsbernd: i will make that motion, but before i do i want to say a few things. unfortunately, matt rodgers had to leave. i would like to publicly congratulate him for showing real leadership in the corridor. leadership that had not been seen in decades. a really great job in public service. i am very disappointed for him and all the merchants who supported this because this did not happen. i would say to the naysayers, a lot of misinformation was put out there and i really hope those who said they opposed it but actually support the

concept do not sit back and run away from the issue. i hope they step forward and try to make this happen. this is absolutely critical to the future of that corridor. it needs to happen. with that, i make the motion to table. president chiu: is there a second to that? seconded by supervisor campos. if we could take that motion without objection, the item is tabled. onto our reference counter. items 37-47. clerk calvillo: these are being considered for immediate and unanimous adoption. they will be enacted by a single roll call vote. unless a commissioner -- unless a supervisor request discussion. president chiu: would anyone like to supervise -- separate any items? rollcall vote. supervisor campos: aye.

president chiu: aye. supervisor chu: aye. supervisor elsbernd: aye. supervisor kim: aye. supervisor farrell: aye. supervisor mar: aye. supervisor wiener: aye. supervisor avalos: aye. clerk calvillo: there are ten ayes. there is an imperative item declaring september 27, 2011 to be karen bishop day in san francisco. president chiu: supervisor mar has made a motion to adopt. seconded by supervisor avalos. any public comment on this item? with regard to motions of the commendatory of finding, could we do that without objection? those motions are made.

could we take the underlined item and to do that same house, same call? without objection, this is passed. clerk calvillo: today's meeting will be adjourned in memory of mr. jerry palsman. president chiu: is there any other business in front of this body? clerk calvillo: that concludes the business for today. president chiu: ladies and gentlemen, we are adjourned. gentlemen, we are adjourned.

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lining up here at the entrance of st. mary's cathedral here on gough and geary in san francisco. thousands of people, firefighters from all over the area, citizens, people from other sectors of public safety, you can see the big american flag being held up by two ladder trucks waiting for for the procession as two fire trucks bring the bodies of vincent perez and firefighter- paramedic anthony valerio to st. mary's. they took off from daly city dugan's mortuary at about 11:15 and they are on the way here set to arrive just at 12:30 to begin the mass, expected to be about 2.5 to three hours. some of the speakers include san francisco mayor ed lee as well as the fire chief and the brother of anthony valerio. so it's certainly going to be an emotional tribute. the fact that so many people came out is warming hearts and

offering a little consolation. >> the church holds 2400 a lot of people watching it on video? they have an overflow room as well at the church? they have a couple of overflow rooms. a lot of people want to be here and show support for the community and the department. >> just being there absolutely amazing. we'll be obviously keeping a prized of the situation. you can stay right where you are if you are at home and you want to see the services we'll have all that as our special live coverage continues. >> go right to cbssf.com, too, if you would like to follow us on the web. we'll be right back. stay right there. ,,,,,,,,,,,,

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killed in the line of duty. these are they are on the way to the st. mary's cathedral in san francisco. >> it's the largest funeral in years. more than 6,000 firefighters turning out at st. mary's cathedral this afternoon. one of the firefighters that's joining us is lieutenant vincent -- actually, lieutenant vincent perez and, uhm, the firefighter the other firefighter killed, uhm, anthony valerio will be laid to rest amid many friends coming from around the world around the bay area and around the state. one of those firefighters with us is bill we had toy a veteran. thank you for take time. it's an emotional day for

firefighters all over. >> the nice thing is that i'm hopefully going to be able to bring some information to the people who are part of these somber events. >> over the years we have had to create protocols for this type of incident so things can -- they basically have probably a book or i know in vallejo we have a what to do book for -- in a case of a funle. >> so we saw the cross ladders with the american flag. >> that's part of this whole protective custody col. that's standard. the aerial ladders with the american flag, the fire trucks carrying usually the engine companies that they were assigned to or maybe they are assigned to a certain engine for most of their career and that's, you know, what they would have wanted. they strip the hose off the engine and place the casket in

the back of the engine. it's a lot of emotion. they want to make sure they penalty the person and that's the way at they take them to the church and the funeral. we want to go live to mac mag at st. mary's cathedral in the city where the services are just about to start. >> yeah. you mentioned the dignitaries, kent. we are expecting the governor to be here as well as gavin newson. and the thousands of people here standing behind me all lined up at thens transnow to st. mary's cathedral just an amazing outpouring of people from all over the country, fellow firefighters, police officers, nurses. just a real testament to the brother and sisterhood of public servants. we want to show you the procession that began earlier at about 11:15 this morning. it began in daly city at

dugan's moreture rarery. the two caskets draped with flags being carried out into the fire truck from the moreture -- vincent perez and anthony valerio. some of the firefighters were calling them tony and vinnie beloved in the department. and the mass of course is set to start at 12:30. some of the speakers that will be talking about these guys, san francisco mayor ed lee, anthony valerio's brother mark and fire chief joanne hayes- white as well as some of their partners, some of the people that really knew them very well. and i got a real good indication of what these guys were like earlier from the president of the firefighters union. here's what he had to say. >> reporter: they were the odd couple. tosh any was aen to -- ponytailed hippie free spirit traveler and they came together as a two, two of the most

different guys in the world went in together and left this world together. they did it side by side. they were right next to each other when they were found. so they stood together as a team. it was very moving to hear that. >> both firefighters of course from engine company 26 in the diamond heights neighborhood. that engine company very well represented here today as well as i mentioned firefighters from all over the western united states. and other firefighters from other departments now taking care of the duties of a lot of the local firefighters who wanted to be here today. so just another kind of show of people being willing to step in and make sure that this final tribute is paid with the utmost respect. >> so a lot of people stepping in to pick up the slack as you mentioned. a lot of firefighters there and i think we'll pull back at some point and show you how many firefighters are lined up at st. mary's.

it's an amazing outpouring. thank you very much, anne. >> ken, interesting, when we were having a little meeting prior to this you said anthony valerio, you went to high school with this guy. >> did i. >> and you knew him as tony so when they said anthony, do i know this guy? they just said it's tony and vinnie. >> en to and a valerio was a classmate of mine. we graduated together in high school. sweet guy, just the nicest guy you would ever want to meet and your going to be hearing that and his family is an amazing family, lots of brothers and sisters. and they have been in the bay area for long, long time. th' crushed as we all are. when i heard his name, it's a double-take. you don't keep contact with that many people after high school. i did bump into him at a couple of fires over the years and we kind of waved at each other and

laugh and that kind of thing. just a tragedy and for the lieutenant perez, also. these were such great guys and the loss is going to be felt by so much. >> lieutenant perez, talk about giving of oneself. his brother is a san francisco police officer, his other brother is an oakland police officer. he was a sheriff in the alameda county sheriff's department before coming over here for the last 21 years. >> talk about dedication. >> i should say. a man that grew up in san francisco and, you know, is saying good-bye as well right here in the city. >> yeah. joining us today for our coverage is firefighter bill tweedy. we were talk earlier. you have 27 years of doing this. and before that, you were a police officer, as well. you were law enforcement. >> started off as a police officer in vallejo and then went to the fire department and was there for 27 years. >> and your family has that tradition. what is it about all these families that get involved in this? >> i think it's just one part of a mold that people are in that it's what you're made of.

and that's what you're destined to do. we're here to protect and serve the public however we can. sometimes it ends up in one of us losing our lives. >> that's a shame. you mentioned though when we were talk earlier, public service and that whole idea. you said to me, when you're in public service and your family's in public service, it's a way of life. >> yeah. i had -- in my household, my family had a daughter and my wife, and they had a routine that they would do when i was at work, they would have a routine that they would do when i was at home. we would be at work for two days straight or sometimes four days straight depending on the situations. and they would have, you know, their own little things that they would do. it happens in public safety all the time. the families have to do things without the -- whoever is in the public safety, the man or the woman. >> that's an excellent point because often think of just the

law enforcement personnel or the firefighting personnel but it's the whole family. the whole family gets caught up in that because their lifestyle changes so drastically. >> they realize that there are going to be times when you're not there for christmas, you're not there for thanksgiving, you're not there for birthdays or special occasions, anniversaries. >> but you actually probably spend more time with the firemen than you really do with your own family sometimes, right? >> sometimes it would work out to where i'd be at the station for four days straight and then i'd be home for two days. >> well, on that same vein, i know a lot of the san francisco firefighters if not all of them obviously want to attend today so a lot of firefighters from surrounding bay area communities have come in with their engines and manpower and they are now stationed in a lot of the stations around the city and that's where kiet do is now at station 7, where i guess some firefighters from hayward and other communities are helping out. i understand they have already gone to work, is that right? >> reporter: yes. some have come back but yes, we're here at station 7 in san

francisco but check this out. this purple colored engine here says that they are from hayward. we have seen units from el cerrito and from cds, as well. so these guys are coming from as far north as napa, as far east as fremont, as far south as san jose and they were on a fire just a little while ago but they are back. we have footage from station 26 where the two fallen firefighters are from. they were wearing dress blues and riding their own fire engine to the funeral service today, very somber. they locked that station down. you can see a lot of teddy bears and mementos of people sending their warm wishes, as well. many of the men and women here in san francisco are from other agencies. they are here a lot of them on their own time as va tears. we talked to one is your firefighter who told me that getting paid to run into a burning building is one thing but very thankful that a lot of these guys are here doing it for free. so the fire department is confident that they will respond to all the calls in a

timely manner. as far as these guys not being familiar with the twists and turns and the hilly streets of san francisco, they have been told to drive slowly and drive together. the best guesstimate as to how many of these out of town firefighters, somewhere in the neighborhood of several hundred. back to you. >> amazing. kiet do live in san francisco, and he is going to stay out there as well for us this afternoon. bill, you were referring to earlier some of the traditions, some of the protocol and we're seeing that right now. thousands attending today's funeral. you have the two engines there. the cast sets are loaded aboard and they are preparing i guess the honor guard to take into st. mary's cathedral. >> the paul bearers will come up to the engine and they will gracefully pull the two caskets off the engines and go through all the firefighters are going to