and we believe that if we could pass muster at a community meeting in the mission as far as no contrarians, that we would be where we wanted to be, at least as commissioner dejesus said that night, as the first step. i know the copy i just passed out says final draft, but that is not true. this is now a general order in the san francisco police department. it fits in the first section of our policies and procedures as a governing, organizational structure and is now they're buying in late into every general order as we will do business going forward if we have not already been doing it. i really want to thank you for being there on it that wednesday in being heard. i think probably my highpoint of the evening was when that young

women, probably in her late teens, early 20's, got up and claimed the line out of this general order as her own. she said i just want everybody to know, and i do not know which one it was, she read it, and she turned it around and said that is mine. i think with that, i know there are members here. i will not mention names, because i do not want to be disrespectful of somebody else. but the people behind me collaborated. i am sure people are watching on television that collaborated. we're very proud of this. and i want to thank everybody from your office that held down held that'shelped -- i want to thank everybody from your office that helped out. supervisor campos: my apologies, i ever got to a knowledge the sponsors. supervisor mirkarimi, supervisor cohen, supervisor mar, and supervisor avalos. it would not have happened

without your willingness to work with us, chief. to your knowledge, how many departments in the country have community policing imbedded in their general orders? >> i believe that every department in the country strives to be a community police department, but i believe this is the first such policy and procedure which actually codify it. i know people in the past have said that it cannot be defined, but that does not appear to be the case. this is how we are defining it. supervisor campos: and i think that is very important to highlight. it is very historic that we are the first to codify it, and to do so in a way -- i think replacement of it as department general order 1.08 makes sure that it is something that really impacts the entirety of the operation. that is one question that i have, and i will turn it over to my colleagues that they have questions for you, chief. how does this affect what

happens on the ground? how does this impact what happens in the 10 different district stations and how each captain approaches the concept of community policing and how they have to fulfill this mandate? >> so, if you will, as with all policies and procedures, now all supervisors, front sargent, a senior officers, however, if an officer is conducting themselves outside of how is prescribed in this general order, as with all general orders, then there would be training, retraining, further training, as far as if you are aware of this. this one that is called an a- bulletin or the officers have to sign up for it to a degree that they have got it and are now responsible for it into it. going forward now, as of last week, this is the way that we will have our officers' conduct

themselves. supervisor campos: great, thank you, chief. that is all on my end. i do not know if you have anything else to add or if my colleagues have questions. supervisor cohen: anybody in the public that is interested in this, i believe it is already online. if not, i am committed to getting it online by the end of the week. it is a public document that anybody is welcome to look at, inspect, and hopefully celebrate the way we do. supervisor mirkarimi: i would like to commend your leadership and the department's leadership in partnering with supervisor campos in making this happen. before supervisor campos was elected but was a police commissioner, we had joint meetings before you were chief, chief suhr. we had a joint meeting between this committee in the police commission to talk about a 2007 study that the city controller

commission on community policing and foot patrols. it was a thorough study, the first of its kind, that the city had never undertaken. there seemed to be a great desire and demand that, at least as the future of community policing, people really do love foot patrols. yet, the conclusion is that, from the police department, at least back then, that is a luxury that the department cannot afford. and that brought up other questions in that conversation and has hands. that is, how do you budget for this level of commitment, when the department's budget is about $480 or so this coming year, how do you then it sort of us in those fiscal resources in staffing resources to make sure that community policing is more than just a paper target? >> as i said, if this is as

intended, it covers everything, the officer to be engaged as prescribed in this order. i appreciate foot patrols, and they are actually in this order. if you look on page 3, the assignment of steady peace in sectors on a daily basis, regular attendance of beat officers at community meetings in their assigned areas and at regular staffing as it is allowed. there are going to be instances where there are other priorities that may take away from a foot beat. but foot beats are a priority for us. we know they are particularly special to those commercial corridors that have them. there something that are specific to commercial and transit corridors. i know that neighborhoods have asked for foot beats that were

too big of a place and that is just not how they are used. but to that end, i know is a deterrent on transit lines. i know that i work closely with supervisor cohen, making sure that our sure streetbeat are a priority and our staff -- to make sure that our third thatbeat are staffed. we may need to borrow from each other from day to day to make sure things work. but they are a priority. it is not take a day or two for a neighborhood that enjoys a foot beat, when they notice it is not around, to make enough to the captain, i want my foot beat back. it is not lost on the captain or myself. supervisor mirkarimi: how do you sort of help enforce that level on continuity? you do have a rotational captain

system. sometimes captains are yanked in the middle of the night from 10 different stations, and then the relationships that had been created by the community in that particular captain, they could have found a real winner. no, where it is just a win-win for the community and district station. the person they are replaced with is not like their predecessors. it is almost as if the switch has been reset. how do you ensure that level of continuity when that leadership chainge occurs with in the district's system? >> i am believe the captain's need to be where they are released 10 years, because it takes at least a year to get to know your community, another year to make the station your own, and then another year if you need to make any

adjustments. to that end, the captains that i have it stations, when they move, it will be for retirement or promotion going forward. that has usually been the case overtime anyway. an order like this though, and continuity, we have got a lot of turnover at the top in the police department over the last four to five years. to that end, some sort of stability over time will get that. plus, i think that this body, and this is why it was important to me, this is the first chance i have had to come to the public safety committee, and i appreciate the opportunity. i think we need to hold our feet to the fire with regard to this general order going forward, and we will be here every time to answer any questions or concerns. supervisor cohen: do not worry, we will hold your feet to the fire. >> i remember that from before

with you. supervisor campos: just to give you some ideas, as i am reading this department general order as a department general order, and that is the reason we wanted to codify it, remember that we're talking about a paramilitary organization, and their specific rules and guidelines. but a general order is exactly that, a general order that has to be followed and complied with by all the offices. i really think that it is important to highlight some of the key things that are required. interaction with youth, their specific expectations in terms of how every member of that department interacts with young people in the city and county of san francisco. if i am is a police officer and want to be in compliance with the spirit and the letter of this general order, i would be thinking about how my actions as a member of the department

essentially followed this tenet of that interaction with young people. communication with the community, one of the things that i have seen as captains have rotated in and out of different stations is that some are better than others at providing crime data to their district station. now, once this goes into affect, if you are a captain in any station, you have to have a plan for compliance. you have to know that, you know, providing crime data or communicating with all members of that community is not something that is desirable, which is how it has been treated in the past, but it is actually required. so you actually have to have a plan, a strategy in place to make that happen. as a district captain, you have to think about how it is that you're going to provide training to your officers to comply with

the tenets you have to understand with the community you're serving. so you are forced to do that, and it is not just seen as a good idea. it is a requirement that you provide that training institute or training plan. on the assignment of beats, it is not just that it requires that beats be created, but there has to be an assignment of offices so that there's a steady presence. some of the officers out of a beat, you have to think twice about how you do that, because you want to give the officers or walking a beat enough time to get to know the community and really understand the community. so you have to think about staffing in that way. it is not just a good idea. now it is required. i think there are many things here that have the potential to really impact how the leadership

of the different stations think about their day-to-day, and i think that if done properly, especially the training park, then i think it's also a trickle down to the entire police department. i think it is very powerful, but again, a general order, but again, the devil is in the detail of the implementation. i think that is where we need to continue to monitor this, to make sure that is implemented not only in compliance with the letter but also with the spirit of the details. >> i agree. i think it would be remiss to say that there are in notion of sentences the police officers, and actually officers all around the state and country, that conduct themselves exactly like this. supervisor campos: yes. >> and for them, this is not a change for how they would do day-to-day business. there are other officers who may be less engaging or less precarious than some other officers, and this is going to

have to make them try and find their chi, if you will, to raise the bar. supervisor campos: thank you, chief. supervisor mirkarimi: let's see if there is any more chi. thank you, chief. supervisor campos: if we can open it up to public comment, i see david, who is ready to speak, and he has been very engaged and involved not only in the drafting of this ordinance and working with chief suhr and the police department, but quite frankly, he has been involved in his neighborhood, his community, for many years. community policing as a two-way street. it is not just about what the police department does, but it is also about what the community does. i think if there is an example of what you want to see members of the community do on these issues, david is that example.

>> wow, thank you. first of all, i want to just say that we should congratulate ourselves. i mean, this was so much easier than we thought it would be, and everything is going great. we should celebrate. at the beginning of the year, we had a chief who was saying we're already doing community policing and there's no reason to define it. and now, you know, we went out and started to talk to people, and we found out that people do have a definition and the collaborative process we undertook with a very diverse group, people are nodding and agreeing, and that is very good in a group. even more important, when the general order was put out in the mission, there was a room with cops in it and a couple hundred people from the community and everybody was smiling and nodding. i mean, that is amazing. that is really amazing. we should give a big whoo-hoo to

that. the thing i want to say is a definition is great, and this general order is really amazing. i do not really know how police work, but i assume that is going to be very effective. i think, going forward, the public is going to need to know what this means. and to the people who, in your force, who exemplify this, like community policing is, i would like to see them acknowledged and to be publicly and within the department shown as examples. people who do not know what it means, i think they really actually need to say, this is how you do it, and i know you are going to have the best practices manual. but the public especially needs to see this happen, and it is not just the police force, obviously. it is great that they are on board with this idea, but i run

into it much more frequently that the community feels apathy, like it is the job of the police to do community policing. but community is at the front of that, and it really is up to your leadership up here to start telling the community what they're telling you but tell them back what it means to be involved in community policing. i am eager to take this next steps and see what that looks like. thank you again. i am glad you're doing this. it is great. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you for your leadership. supervisor campos: next speaker? if anybody from the public would like to speak, please come forward. >> good morning, supervisors. first of all, i would like to thank you for sponsoring this administrative code and to give some strength to our police department. i do not know, you know, what was the process in terms of getting input from the

community. i would have liked to actually sit down and give some input, because this is like our baby in the western addition the fillmore, and for years we have been saying that community policing, the goal of community policing is not the community policing itself. at this point, it is true. a lot of things have been said in the community, and a lot of people have given up when it comes to working with the police department and city governments. but this is a good sign. going forward, i think if you look at crn, that is a clear example of what the problem is. crn was never intended to be just like security guards the to come on at the scene and stand by and sometimes do the police work. crn, from the vision of community policing, which we presented to the mayor in 2006, was to create a 18 of community

people that actually knew the law -- create a team of community people that actually knew the law. so when we come to the table, one side will not be speaking over another. if i come to the table with the chief or anybody with the police department, i have to know something about the dgo. if i am trying to represent the community and the occ office does not respond in a timely manner, i have to know what the next process is. i think that is something that is missing with the crn. some of them are doing a good job, but we need to add more meat to the bones when it comes to crn and community policing. thank you. supervisor campos: thank you, sir. next speaker. >> good morning, supervisors. my name is ilet. i am from the bernal heights center. i wanted to say thank you so

much for giving us the opportunity to come together and have this open to us. out of the youths i have worked with, they have come to the monthly meeting to speak on the ordinance in the general order, and they're very, very happy that they have been heard. she's not here today, but she was at the community meeting at caesars of best elementary school. that was her when she said that was her voice. i think that exemplifies the type of community policing that we need. we all know that in order -- i have said this many times, in order to have a truly safe neighborhood, truly safe san francisco, of course we need the police. but the police also need us and our voices. i hope this is going to be the start of an amazing relationship for the future. we have started youth summit

that colonel hite, one in two, where we had police officers come to the community, and they were able to talk with the youth and close that gap that is missing. i hope that everybody will be there to express this amazing occasion that we have been having. thank you so much. supervisor campos: thank you. next speaker. >> hello, supervisors. my name is zachary. i wanted to bring up real quickly, i used to live in boulder, colorado, and they had a program called older citizens on control, beat cop. it is no longer in existence because there were overzealous community members trespassing. that is something to keep in mind. supervisor campos: thank you. next speaker. >> that morning. my name is douglas, and i have lived in san francisco for 59 years. i would like to make one

suggestion in regards to my own interpretation of community policing. i know it might sound dangerous, but i always thought that this was part of the job of being a policeman. i would like to suggest that the police department have a program where they vigorously use the police cars to stay at hot spots throughout the city, and while they are there, to pass out literature or fliers informing whoever is there that this is what they're doing and that they are going to be cutting out crime. i know that being a policeman is a dangerous job, but i am confident every single officer can protect themselves, so i do not think my idea is that dangerous. i think it is just part of being a policeman. and if we're going to stamp out these hot spots throughout the city, i think it is imperative that potential criminals realize

that the police are there, will be there, and will take care of business as they see fit. another way of putting it is to say we give them a gun, and i am sure everyone can use it properly and wisely. secondly, i would like to propose a controversial idea in regards to community policing. let's end the controversy and non-transparency about videogate. i propose that the city hire back andrew cohen, give him a chance to clear his name and use his experience to show that he's going to help the community rather than damage the community's reputation. i feel that the whole story is unknown about andrew cohen. i think the city should give him a chance to clear his name. thank you. supervisor campos: thank you very much. is there any other member of the

public who would like to speak on this item? cnn, that includes the public comment portion of this item. thank you again, colleagues, for your support. supervisor mirkarimi: ok, public comment is closed. thank you again, supervisor campos. i also want to thank so many people were not here today, who over the years, not just recently but over the last five years in particular, who have worked diligently and the three police chiefs to really advance what would be measured, rational, and accountable policies. we think that the culmination of those efforts have now arrived at a place where we can place the general orders and also then reflect its in ordinance and total law. i think that is an important milestone. thank you to all of those who cannot be here for this particular hearing. shall we take this and move this

forward with recommendations? very good. so moved. thank you again. thank you, chief and staff. supervisor campos: thank you, everyone. supervisor mirkarimi: madam clerk, next item. >> all items acted upon today will appear on the october 18 board agenda. item number two, resolution authorizing the public defender's office to accept and expend a grant in the amount of $149,896. supervisor mirkarimi: very good. would you like to speak to this, supervisor campos? supervisor campos: just briefly. thank you very much. this is an item i introduced, an item to accept and expend a grant for the purpose of implementing local juvenile justice accountability measures. this is through the juvenile accountability block grant, and these are resources that would certainly be very useful.

and i hope to have your support. supervisor mirkarimi: ok. any public comment on this item? >> [sings] i can see justice now the rain has gone i can see all measures and obstacles in my way gone are the dark city clubs that had miniblind it is going to be a bride, a bright justice day. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. any other public comments? seen none, the public comment is closed. madam clerk, next item. >> item 3, ordinance amending the health code in the article

35 to grade requirements for biological agent detectors. supervisor mirkarimi: supervisor david shute's office. >> good morning. i am from david chiu's office. president chiu did this earlier this year, as one of the board's representative on the disaster council, like supervisor mirkarimi, and also because he represents many of the large office buildings in district 3 or this legislation might be relevant. i do have with me erica, the deputy health officer, but i just want to make a few brief remarks. she has a presentation, and we would be happy to answer any question that you have. in recent years, commercial vendors responded to concerns about by a terrorism among the broader target -- public, marketing to companies, building owners, a public institutions.

unfortunately, many of these devices have not been tested in can create false alarms. there are hundreds of these products on the market right now. a false alarm about a buy note -- about to buy a terrorism agent could cost us up to $700,000 per incident. there have been false alarms and other parts of the country. there was proposed legislation in your to regulate this industry. the legislation specifically requires anyone who possesses a biological agent detector to register that product with the city and abide by requirements and paid a fee to license the product. it requires that that person has a facility response plan if they have an incident. and there are penalties that their false alarms. finally, and the post-9/11 world, 10 years since 9/11, we need to be safe, but we need to make sure we do not create unnecessary public alarm when there is no need. there are no scientifically valid devices available for

commercial uses. that is the impetus for this legislation. again, the doctor has a presentation or is happy to answer questions that you have. supervisor mirkarimi: welcome. >> do you have a preference? i am happy to quickly walk through the presentation or do you want to move to questions? supervisor mirkarimi: if you like to give us a synopsis, by all means. >> ok. maybe not. essentially, you have it in front of you, as well. you already have a lot of the background about the commercial vendors to the there is a handbook on the market that has handbook on the market that has 300 pages of ares detectors that