about where you are and let us know if it is going on the calendar and if so, when? >> i can say that we have been meeting with the aclu and meeting with the asian law caucus. we have had several meetings. we are continuing to meet with them but at this point and has gone from -- we are going through a lot of what of scenarios and we're trying to work with the aclu. we will continue the dialogue with him. we have had this on our agenda more than once, including the human rights joint meeting. it is not something that will happen overnight. i think that we have answered almost every question they have had and we're moving to new scenarios. we have a bureau order which is more comprehensive than anything we have seen. it is a work in progress. can we put the date on it? that is up to commissioner slaughter. commissioner slaughter: we have

been in contact and we will be getting together. we will make a plan about what, if any unanswered questions remain to be looked into. and have committed to one another to bring it back before the commission for discussion. we had a lengthy meeting about this last week. there deserves to be a discussion about it and we will. we need to do our work first. we will and we have committed to get it back to the commission and we will do that, too. when that is going to happen, i cannot say. it could be next week or the week after, early november. i do not know. we will get it back as expeditiously as we can. i would reiterate what commissioner mazzucco said.

we require our officers to comply with 810. we have a commitment in writing from the fbi that says any member of the police department that is assigned to jttf can while abiding by policies and orders. there has been suggestion to the contrary. i do not think that is a fair suggestion. it does not mean it is not an important issue for us to discuss. we will as a commission. there is no commitment from the fbi that our officers are and continue to be governed by the department of general orders is not accurate. we will do the work as many subcommittees do and we will bring it back to the commission

for discussion when we are ready. thank you. commissioner kingsley: when do we have our next khomeni meeting schedule? when and where? >> we have not picked a date. we're looking toward the end of november. it might be november 30. we have to coordinate that. commissioner kingsley: what are the thoughts on where that would be? >> either the central or southern station. commissioner kingsley: thank you. one item that i would like to put on the agenda. commissioner terman and i would like to put on the november 2 agenda. we are targeting to distribute the draft resolution that we have been working on with the city attorney and various other folks regarding our priorities but more specifically, it is going to be someone as ms.

porter has described it aptly, a kind of road map which this resolution will bring together. the duties of the commission that arise out of the charter, the administrative code, the police commission rules and regulations, as well as the other resolutions that the commission has passed in former years, bringing it all together in one document and mapping that out so when we are deciding on priorities and when to schedule them, they are a backdrop to all these other duties and responsibilities we have. we would like to get the input of the full commission before moving ahead with more detail. the draft of that we propose to have to you before november 2 to discuss at the november 2

meeting. president mazzucco: we're back to what to entitled this document. you are working on our list of priorities. this backdrop of the rules and procedures and charter and all that, i think those are divens that we understand and we know what our role is and we know we need to do. the ultimate issue is, what are our priorities? it is a moving target because it changes frequently. i am not sure about the second half of what you're asking for. commissioner dejesus: i have not been here but i am not sure what you're asking for. i am not sure when we will get it. commissioner kingsley: can we put this on the agenda for november 2? we can entitle it what we want to and do with it what we want. >> we will look at the draft. thank you. commissioner chan: i wanted to

put back on our calendar language access. we have it scheduled and it got moved. if we can have it on november 9, i want to see if that is ok with a calendar. a one to be specific about what i mean by this. prior to me being on the commission, the commission received annual report backs on language access. how often language access has been used. i remember going to the chinatown community meeting and there was a report. with our language access, department general order, where are we in terms of implementation? what is yet in progress and how often are the services used? what are the additional needs the department might have to keep in mind, those of the kinds of questions i have. does that make sense?

president mazzucco: is that it for our agenda? >commissioner dejesus: i talked to commissioner mazzucco. he is also on the committee. we will discuss whether or not i would like him to get on the commission. -- khomeni. president mazzucco: we had a closed session item regarding potential litigation. i would like to calendar in the near future our review as to whether or not the police commission should supervise and- or authorize assistance and that was discussed. i would put that on the next three or four weeks. how does that look for the second week of november? we just put something on. let's do it the 16th?

november 16. >> is open right now. -- it is open right now. president mazzucco: anything further? public comment regarding these items? seeing none, public comment is closed. item three. >> public comment on all matters pertaining to item 5. closed session for disciplinary cases. president mazzucco: any public comment regarding matters of close session. a motion?

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>> the san francisco cons tri of flowers in golden gate park is now showing a new exhibit that changes the way we see the plants around us. amy stewart's best-selling book, "wicked plants" is the

inspiration behind the new exhibit that takes us to the dark side of the plant world. >> i am amy stewart. i am the arthur of "wicked plants," the weeds that killed lincoln's mother and other botanical atrocities. with the screens fly trap, that is kind of where everybody went initially, you mean like that? i kind of thought, well, all it does is eat up bugs. that is not very wicked. so what? by wicked, what i mean is that they are poisonous, dangerous, deadly or immoral or maybe illegal or offensive or awful in some way. i am in the profession of going around and interviewing botanists, horticulturalists and plant scientists. they all seem to have some little plant tucked away in the corner of a greenhouse that maybe they weren't supposed to have. i got interested in this idea

that maybe there was a dark side to plants. >> the white snake root. people who consumed milk or meat from a cow that fed on white snake root faced severe pain. milk sickness, as it was culled, resulted in vomiting, tremors, delirium and death. one of the most famous victims of milk sickness was nancy hangs lincoln. she died at the age of 34, leaving behind 9-year-old abraham lincoln. he helped build his mother's casket by carving the woodallen petition douche the wooden petition himself. >> we transformed the gallery

to and eerie victorian garden. my name is lowe hodges, and i am the director of operations and exhibitions at the conls tore of -- cons tore of flowers. we decided it needed context. so we needed a house or a building. the story behind the couple in the window, you can see his wife has just served him a glass of wine, and he is slumped over the table as the poison takes affect. a neat little factold dominion about that house is actually built out of three panels from old james bond movie. we wanted people to feel like i am not supposed to be in this room. this is the one that is supposed to be barred off and locked up. >> the ole andersonner -- oleander.

this popular shrub is popular in warm climates. it has been implicated in a surprising number of murders and accidental deaths. children are at risk because it takes only a few leaves to kill them. a southern california woman tried to collect on her husband's life insurance by putting the leaves in his food. she is now one of 15 women on california's death rowan the only one who attempted to murder with a plant. >> people who may haven't been to their cons tore or been to -- do serve tore or their botanical garden, it gives them a reason to come back. you think let's go and look at the pretty flowers. these are pretty flowers, but they are flowers with weird and fascinating stories behind them. that is really fun and really not what people normally think of when they come to a

horticultural institution. >> "wicked plants" is now showing at the san francisco conserve tore of flowers. unless next time, get out and play.