we had a person come out envelope at of venice, and they indicated in his view known, it was cleare that if thy were close to the home they would invade the home. there is a nuisance code, which we reference, which prohibits anyone from coming into an area and imposing a noxious fume. i would appreciate it if you would take that into consideration. there is no speculation as to whether or not it came from the

painting booth. >> that may not be the case. there is a lot of industrial going on. remember the chicken place on mission street? i think there is that kind of technology. that is not something we can impose, but it is out there. i will mention a restriction, the definition of hours that painting occurs, but i think we are ok the way we are. >> i do not see anything wrong with imposing some hours. >> if we could talk to a project

sponsor and just ask them. >> when you are painting. >> we use it once a day, because we are a small business. good >> during that time, a 30- minute window appear eager -- 30-minute window. >> monday through friday. >> i do not snow. the maker of the motion would have to be ok with it.

>> as long as it has to do with the booze. -- booth. >> our project sponsor is ok with that? >> how critical is it to have that open and close? >> it is too long to have. we have not put any cars in at all. >> i would like to have some situation where d r requester is are involved, rather than somebody coming out from the air quality district working with

the project sponsor and saying, it is going to be raised 2 feet. >> we have no way to enforce that. we do not. >> you can enforce it by having the the are requester president, and then see what the recommended -- >> i trust the project sponsor will do the right thing. >> i am not saying i am not going to do the right thing. why can they be there and say wouldn't it be better if it went to 5 feet or 10 feet or whatever?

>> they are going to be experts about air quality, so i do not know. >> commissioner moore was aiming at something about how the air and works. goo>> they are asking for guida. that is what they do across the board. >> i feel like you are second- guessing the bay area quality control management. >> they do not necessarily know any better than this guy. >> i want to say as far as leaving the door open, you see that on all buildings.

it is actually more difficult for the buildings to watch out that no one steals them. >> they will obviously have some report. >> that would be public, right? >> what the public sponsor will have to do is once they obtain their permit, they will have to do reporting on a regular basis end of tin of record on how many remissions and when volume -- obtain the record of how many admissions. >> they would know also.

the d r requester. >> use second the motion. >> what are the steps? >> maybe the best thing to do is talk to him directly. that is what we usually recommend, that people continue to engage.

you seem like a reasonable person to me. you both do. >> i think of the heart is that we are heading into unknown territory, in proximity with noxious fumes, and it is our interest to figure out a solution that works for everyone. >> is basically sound like they are favorable to this, so we are not opposed to it. we will continue to work with our staff. >> i was aware of the planning

process and the districts coming into -- >> these guys are operating on the rules but currently exist. >> i could go with the. it is proposed, but it is likely to be adopted. >> i do not know. the concept is one that has caught our interest, but these are the kinds of things that caught arms interest. -- caught our interests. >> our original plan was zero issue this.

>> there are a couple of different kinds stereo -- different kinds. i think it issue is we live in mixed use districts. they do not look at the zoning lines. >> it state certain structural requirements of auto body shops. >> they have the final say in terms of how to deal with that.

i will let you continue to engage in dialogue with the project sponsor. comissioner sugaya: they do not think air quality is going to address that issue. this will not block voters but will emanate in their apartments common region -- will not block odors that will emanate in their apartments. >> i would like to have the owners come in, because i would like to see how they give to potential buyers the information, because this is coming out of lot, not just industrial but in neighborhood commercial districts, anytime

anyone wants and entertainment permit in terms of noise, so i think the coexisting of uses is something i would like to understand a little better by people moving into these areas. i am getting low. >> my understanding of the motion is to approve this project for the recommendations of the management district for whatever the recommendations are, but the hours will be paid until 6. -- 8:00 until 6:00, and the project sponsor will continue working with staff.

is there anything in addition to that? on that motion -- [calling votes. comissioner sugaya: no. that motion passed 5-1. commissioners, you are now at general public comment, where members of the public may address you on issues. members of the public may address you for up to 3 minutes. they may not address you on any item that has appeared on his calendar. >> is there any general public comments herrman? good luck with this.

>> did you close the meeting? >> there is a general public comment coming. >> hello, can you hear me ok? >> weekend. >> we send this to you. -- we carry on. >> we sent this to you. i am tim. >> only one microphone works at a time. >> you can take three minutes each. >> we wrote it carefully to adhere to 3 minutes. in august, 2003, you or whoever was in the commission has motion 16636, which authorized the mixed use condominium project on 24 street, and it consists of two commercial units and six residential units.

all of the units have been sold to individual owners, but the problem is they have become worse. this is despite decisions and you took with subsequent cases presented to you by the developer in 2005 and in 2007. >> the residential units were intended for seniors 62 and older who intended to live there as primary residences, and we are the only to people who actually live in the building. goothing the commission and intd

-- did the commission intends to create vacation homes for out of state residents to visit their friends and family? i see you nodding no, but we have been trying to work with the planning department on this, and as of today common they are saying they cannot resolve their restriction. they say they cannot for said. -- forfeit. >> that motion also stated it would be regenerated and this includes dust and odors. if the planning department is trying to legalize a turning --

a tanning salon, there are odours affecting our house, and they finally installed a ventilation system has an affect. >> your time is up. >> they can combine its. >> you are to take another three minutes? can we do that? >> now in addition to the fumes, and we are wondering is a nail salon that produces cancer- causing fumes appropriate? >> i think you both have three

minutes. i do not know if we should be doing this. >> we will find out. there was one instance where our project was approved for a senior housing, and they came back trying to reverse the approval so it was not senior housing, but usually there were certain incentives, exceptions that come with senior housing developments, and one has to do with parking and density, so i

want to know if there are requirements over who has to be living there were some of the rules that govern it. i am not familiar with it, but it would be good to find out. thank you for bringing this to our attention. >> thank you for your time. >> we will get more information to determine whether or not this is the right one. is there additional public comment on items that are not on today's calendar? seeing none, general public comment is closed and the meeting is adjourned. >> in memory of steve jobs. >> howard graves and the senior housing advocate who passed away last week, and he was very

active in the lgbt community. >> objection. >> with one objection. >> not to howard grace. >> with that, the meeting is adjourned.

>> i'm your host of "culturewire," and today, here at electric works in san francisco. nice to see you today. thanks for inviting us in and showing us your amazing facility today. >> my pleasure. >> how long has electric works been around? >> electric works has been in san francisco since the beginning of 2007. we moved here from brisbane from our old innovation. we do printmaking, gallery shows, and we have a fabulous retail store where there are lots of fun things to find.

>> we will look at all of that as we walk around. it is incredible to me how many different things you do. how is it you identify that san francisco was in need of all these different services? >> it came from stepping out of graduate school in 1972. i wrote a little thing about how this is an idea, how our world should work. it should have printmaking, archiving, a gallery. it should have a retail store. in 1972, i wanted to have art sales, point-of-sale at the grocery store. >> so you go through the manifesto. with the bay area should have. you are making art incredibly accessible in so many different ways, so that is a good segue. let's take a walk around the facilities. here we are in your gallery space. can you tell me about the current show? >> the current show is jeff

chadsey. he is working on mylar velum, a smooth, beautiful drawing surface. i do not know anyone that draws as well as he does. it is perfect, following the contours and making the shape of the body. >> your gallery represents artists from all over, not just the bay area, an artist that work in a lot of different media. how to use some of what you look for in artists you represent? >> it is dependent on people are confident with their materials. that is a really important thing. there is enough stuff in the world already. >> you also have in his current show an artist who makes sculpture out of some really interesting types of materials. let's go over and take a look at that. here we are in a smaller space. project gallery. >> artists used the parameters

of this space to find relationships between the work that is not out in the big gallery. >> i noticed a lot of artists doing really site-specific work. >> this is a pile of balloons, something that is so familiar, like a child's balloon. in this proportion, suddenly, it becomes something out of a dream. >> or a nightmare. >> may be a nightmare. >> this one over here is even harder to figure out what the initial material is. >> this is made out of puffy paint. often, kids use it to decorate their clothes. she has made all these lines of paint. >> for the pieces we are looking at, is there a core of foam or something in the middle of these pieces that she built on top of? >> i'm not telling. >> ah, a secret. >> this silver is aluminum foil,

crumbled of aluminum foil. her aesthetic is very much that quiet, japanese spatial thing that i really admire. their attention to the materiality of the things of the world. >> this is a nice juxtaposition you have going on right now. you have a more established artists alongside and emerging artists. is that something important to you as well? >> very important in this space, to have artists who really have not shown much. now let's look at other aspects of electric works operation. let's go to the bookstore. >> ok. >> in all seriousness, here we are in your store. this is the first space you encounter when you come in off the street. it has evolved since you open

here into the most amazingly curious selection of things. >> this was the project for the berkeley art museum. it was -- this is from william wiley's retrospective, when he got up onstage to sing a song, 270 people put on the cat. >> it is not just a bookstore. it is a store. can you talk us through some of your favorites? >> these are made in china, but they are made out of cattails. >> these pieces of here, you have a whale head and various animals and their health over there, and they are jewelry. >> we do fund raisers for nonprofits, so we are doing a project for the magic theater, so there are some pretty funny cartoons. they are probably not for prime time. >> you sort of have a kind of

holistic relationship where you might do merchandise in the store that promotes their work and practice, and also, prince for them. maybe we should go back and look at the print operation now. >> let's go. >> before we go into the print shop, i noticed some incredible items you have talked back here. what are we standing in front of? >> this is william wiley, only one earth. this is a print edition. there are only eight total, and what we wanted to do was expand the idea of printmaking. this is really an art object. there we go. >> besides the punball machine, what do you produce in limited edition? >> there is the slot machine.

if you win the super jackpot, you have saved the world. >> what about work? >> the right design, it was three volumes with lithographs in each volume. the cab of count dracula with 20 lithographs inside and lined with beaver fur. really special. >> let's move on to the print shop. >> ok. the core of what we do is making things. this is an example. this is a print project that will be a fund-raiser for the contemporary music players. we decided to put it in the portfolio so you could either frame at or have it on your bookshelf. >> so nonprofits can come to you, not just visual are nonprofits, but just nonprofits can come to you, and you will produce prints for them to sell, and th