the letter is to urge the commissioners as was the governor to move quickly to actually resolve one of the issues that we spoke about today, what will be the method for calculating the performance bond associated with the cca. it has been outstanding since legislation was passed. as discussed here today, there and others. >> commissioners, you have the letter before you. is there any member of the public that like to speak on item six? public comment is close. this letter is an item that is both before the puc and lafco. with that, madam clerk? >> [roll call vote]

>> the motion passes. >> if you could entertain a motion to approve? >> it is a resolution that refers to the letter. public comment? all those in favor? the post? -- opposed? it passes. >> item 7. >> public comment. >> is there any member of the public that led to provide general public comment on any item that is not on the agenda but in the jurisdiction of the commissions? >> erica trucks with san francisco green party. it got touched on a little bit but it wasn't an action item for

you today, and i think it is important for the lafco to take it up. i would like them to take of this issue of the fact that as you can see from the charts, the city agencies and other agencies are getting a really sweet deal on electricity. even though we need to support all those agencies, we need to figure out a way to increase what we are bringing in for electricity. the main reason for that is so that we can get ahead of the global warming curve, not to stop with cca, but a full build out of not only electricity but electrified mass transit. so that we can really take a bite, even as the city, by

ourselves, out of global warming. if we do it right, we can get the extra revenues for electricity itself while we are installing things like solar panels and efficiency measures for those agencies that are currently getting a deal on electricity such that their bills may not have to change that much. the idea is to start right now the figure out how we can get the extra revenues so we can start building out the efficiency. and figure out the big picture so that it does not cause pain to the agency's that have been leading the deal that they have got, but still supports a really robust renewable energy system and electricity system in the city. some of us end up supporting public power in the city as

well. i am hoping they will take that up so we can start figuring out a way to get a lot more revenue that is badly needed for the goals that we talked about today. >> any other member of the public that like to speak? public comment is closed. the next item is lafco specific. >> approval of minutes from september 23, 2011. >> you have the minutes before you. is there any public comment? we have a motion. can we take that without objection? can you call item no. nine? >> executive officer's report. >> there will be no report today. >> public comment is closed. item 10.

i'm wondering, president vietor and commissioners, whether or not we should try to set up a joint meeting for december to the extent in the event that this item is decided or action is taken at the board of supervisors in november. there might be in need for a joint meeting in december, and i am hoping that the clerks can maybe provide us with some possible dates so that we have something tentative schedule. >> it is probably a good idea. >> winter recess starts on the fourteenth. >> it would be before that. >> december 2 or december 9.

>> what time? >> normally at 2:00. >> commissioners, and of the friday is not always good for you. -- i kjnonow that friday is not always good for you. >> neither are good for me. >> we don't have a schedule the next regular meeting because the next regular meeting date would have been the twentieth during the week of christmas. the 13 is the regular meeting. the 6 is a tuesday, but that's a board meeting day. >> what time does it start? >> 1:30. >> can we do earlier?

is it sixth? an earlier meeting on the sixth? >> it doesn't matter, we don't have a commission meeting. the 11:00 give us enough time? 10:00? >> i need to make sure that the chamber will be available the morning. >> there is a transportation at 9:30, but how about a new -- noon? it would give enough time for that meeting -- >> is that enough time before the board meeting? >> noon on december sixth.

tentative meeting scheduled for tuesday, december 6 at 12:00 p.m.. any member of the public of like to speak on this item? public comment is closed. >> item 11, adjournment. >> the meeting is adjourned, thank you to members of lafco, and members of the san francisco public utilities commission. >> congratulations, i am very pleased. i want to thank the staff a lafco and the puc. it has been a long road, the activists and the stakeholders to get us to this point. i encourage you and urge you to stay involved with the board of supervisors and the conversation there because i think there is work to be done on figuring out and finalizing this issue. >> thank you to the rest of staff and advocates, meeting adjourned.

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the pled of allegiance? >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> thank you. we will take the girl called commissioners. president mazzucco, present. commissioner chan, present. commissioner slaughter, president. -- present.

we have the chief of the police department. >> welcome to the october 12, 2011 police commission meeting. tonight's agenda has a few atoms of the front. we have a busy agenda on the closed session portion involving matters of discipline. we will move through this agenda rather quickly. would you please call item no. 1, general public comment. >> the public is welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on tonight's agenda. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or occ personnel. during public comment, neither police or personnel, nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public that may provide a brief response. individual commissioners and

police and occ personnel should refrain from entering into any debates or discussion with public speakers. please limit your comments to three minutes. >> good evening. i am christine wagner, a resident taxpayer and law practitioner. i wish i was here to commend the san francisco police department. i am here to share with you abuses by officers in recent months and days that have personally and affected -- adversely affected me. you need to know about it and things need to be done about it. as an officer of the court, i do not appreciate police witnessing -- witnessing police officers lying under oath, not once but twice in a court of law for 8

$220 traffic citation. this is egregious to me and it must be an embarrassment to the police department. i do not appreciate the taking of my busy time to appear on a citation that was issued to me without cause and under false pretense. to meet quotas of the san francisco police department, apparently. i do not appreciate the san francisco police department ignoring a court order for the production of documents. no documents were provided, and the reasoning for now documents was provided. that is a contempt of court, quite problematic. i do not appreciate repairers by these public employees. on the street or in the courtroom or the courthouse as i experienced last week. i do not appreciate a police

officer who is clearly on duty lying to me about it and refusing to identify herself by name or by badge number. i do not appreciate i am paying days bad apples for their salary and benefits. this is not a good use of police time and is an abuse. also i do not appreciate that report and made about stolen property that i reported almost two months ago has not been responded to. and made repeated inquiries and that would be out of the mission district station. i have a letter to submit to the commission. i will be sending one to you, you are scc:'d on that.

thank you. president mazzucco: thank you. next speaker. >> i have a couple of questions after last week's discussion on the jttf matter. i do understand that you currently are hoping to put it back on calendar for discussion at some undefined point. i am not clear on what that means. five weeks ago the commission committed to getting answers from the fbi reporting back on certain issues that would either refuse to or confirm or update information the aclu has provided about the fbi's claims it will not abide by san francisco policies or allow officers to abide by them. we assume that would take place last week and was taken off calendar. we would like to know, will that happen? we have the time frame for wewhn that might happen?

president mazzucco: we do not respond to questions. >> i will take that as non response. you have decided to leave the mou in place for now as is your prerogative. you have made statements to local policy saying that all policies will be abided by. you have an mou that is directly contradiction if -- of that. yousigned agreements make it untenable to abide by that. you wanted the bocc -- occ to abide. officers are completely required if the occ is investigating to respond to requests for an jarret -- information. on the other hand, officers face consequences under the nondisclosure agreements on the

federal side and there is no permission granted by the fbi that allows the process to go forward so we have a contradiction. i respectfully requesting since you are encouraging people to use the process, until you resolve this matter, advise the officers and the public what that means. as the fbi have been asked notwithstanding the mou, will the geffen's trances that they comply with the chief's order and the law in san francisco that there will not be subject to federal consequences. if not, what fate should the public have in the process if they are not going to be assured the officers working with the fbi can the interviewed and giving them information. president mazzucco: thank you. >> 18 seconds. let me leave that with the question. if you're going to make these

assurances and there is this contradiction that is not fair to the officers and public, i do not -- i hope you do not think it is not reasonable to ask how this will be handled given that direct contradiction. thank you. president mazzucco: thank you. neck speaker. >>-- next speaker. >> i was here march 16, 2011. if you believe in coincidences, my complaint is regarding my case, an assault case against my parents dated march 10, 2010. i want to make a statement that i am not perfect and i have been arrested twice since that time, not because i did anything wrong, it is because my parents call the police on me. the cat -- complaint -- i am really tired of a cover-ups of

the pricing. i was a person who was followed all around sunset. i ran up the stairs to the precinct two years ago. at 3:30 a.m. and there was no one in that precinct. it is a bold faced lie. chief 00 h-- the chief says he has an open door policy. we have kept in contact. the only to people i've received any help from was george gascone. here is my complaint. two calls, never returned my call. redella tenet returned by call

and said he would get back to me, he is on vacation now. rich dalton calls me today and said the statute has passed. how can they pass it when they never followed up? it was for did -- forwarded to the precinct. what you call cold case? i have evidence to show i did not make certain statements added to my statement that is found in computer records and i want something done about it because i am still being harassed. in any event, when i left here last march, i am not going to tell you how it is done, i heard him said i will make much a man 102 a good thing. i stated i want it that removed off the curriculum. i want that put back on. i asked you please assign an investigator to check into the

evidence i have against that pricing. president mazzucco: thank you. next speaker. ok. any further public comment? seeing none, comment is closed. >> #2. reports and announcements. a review of recent activities and a status update of behavioral science recommendations from the meeting of september 14, 2011. >> the evening. -- good evening. i have six items that we reviewed and i propose we come back with some information for the regarding the officer involved shooting check-in proposal, that we would like to do three mandated sessions with our clinician. at this point, the final map draft has to be submitted for

review and approval by the city attorney, in november. the second was -- >> do you want to take questions at the end? >> what is the draft? >> the final draft that we can include the specific language before it comes to the city attorney. >> i do not know what you mean by draft. is it a bureau order or bulletin, what is it? >> it is a proposal. we had included, we had changed some of the language to include the three chickens. we had talked about to before. -- two before. the officers can get full support and more of an oversight. it is not clear about the form. what is it? i know the content.

i do not know what it is. president mazzucco: the proposal as discussed was that there was going to be an immediate required debriefing and a debrief within 30 days. >> i understand the content. i am wondering what form is it taking? >> it could be dv, or to get the language appropriate to put it anyplace, i usually goes to city attorney review. >> we do not know the form yet, we're getting the content. >> it does not have a title but we will work on that. >> ok. we ewere looking at increasing the requirement for the officers and sergeants from two hours to three hours. it would be a three hour block implemented in the new cpt

cycle. that has been discussed and confirmed with the academy. and a four hour academy block was discussed. three outside vendors have been found. regarding department general order 1111, the update to include additional issues to mandate intervention, the car -- current policy includes alcohol abuse. it needs to be expanded to include substance abuse and other behavioral management issues. it is not that much of a change, just a few words to include for their resources. -- further resources. it is going to written directors and he has been notified it is

in process. president mazzucco: that was the list we gave you. >> there is to more. -- two more. regarding a billable services, we will be doing a presentation -- available services, we will be doing a presentation. we are augmenting staffing with the critical and -- critical incident response treading. we're having ongoing training for our members so that we can add additional support for the department. of formal request may be made after a process of identifying it. a certain individual with a certain skill set. we're looking at a possible additional staff member with specific skills. >> could you also going to the presentation that is coming up? >> i am not sure of the specific

dates. which day? it will be at 28 hour block two eight-hour block. president mazzucco: thank you. the issue is what form this document comes in. we are putting together a document for review. we will send it again for more review. before we go on to questions. we have a speaker. who was invited? all the officers invited? how are we going to work this? >> we are i and the process of deciding. we would like to include the sheriff's department and espouses. the officers and members of the department. and the police commission. i'm not sure who else.

bart pd. we are trying to get as many jurisdictions to attend. as long as they can sit at the center. president mazzucco: it is an excellent book. i have read it and it is the most poignant on. book i have seen since i have been on the commission and since being part of this police family. >> of the chief has ordered several boxes of the book. we're trying to figure out where we will distribute them. two new recruits or family members. we have gone several books distributed to the police academy. president mazzucco: i want to thank you. i read the article in the police officers association newspaper and it describes about everything we read about and everything you have been talking about. it is why this condition -- commission had concerns about middle health issues and i want to give him credit for coming

forward with that. he explained why he retired and what he was going through. he went through a lot in his career. he is a very hard-working police officer. for him to share that was exceptional. the commissioners had received some e-mails. he mentioned you and your hard work. thank you. commissioners? >> i will ask my question. i wanted to -- thank you for your presentation and for coming here and i appreciate that you are responses -- responsive to was prioritizing this issue. i wanted to ask about the survey of officers that was done and last time we asked, you were part way through. are you at a point where you have results you can share? >> we have extended the deadline because we're still getting responses. i would say we could tell yet up in two weeks. >> ok.