idea? have you done any consumer feedback to understand how quickly people would adopt this or not? whether you are dealing with a transit customers or somebody who would change the way they commute. >> definitely, the goals of our founders are to replace single occupancy vehicle trips. that is the major goal of the program. there are lots of goals with bike sharing. survey data from other systems in europe and the united states show it is switching trips from cars. in europe, on the order of 5% to 8% of members state they previously would have driven. in denver and minneapolis, tidbit -- two cities which were operational last year, far more car-oriented cities, the mode shipped was far greater than in europe, where people were

already walking or biking or taking transit. on the order of 12% to 20% of trips taken by by sharing by members formally done by car. in san francisco, my sense is something in between. san francisco is a little bit more of a european city than minneapolis or denver, so we could see it anywhere between 8% and 10% of trips switch from cars. people will also be switching from other modes. sunday will will get on it that were previously walking. i do not see any trouble with that. i do not think my colleagues at muni have any trouble with that as well if we had taken some off of a muni going outbound at 5:30. that is part of the evaluation. there is a lot of data that we can get directly from the technology, but we do not know what people would have done until we ask them what they

would ever done. in terms of outreach to the community, we have been taking our show around. we have been to the bicycle and advisory committee, working with the bicycle coalition -- >> i agree with the previous speaker, this is not for cyclists. >> we have not had much feedback from non-cyclists. we had unlimited funding for this so we have not conducted a thorough and far reaching feasibility analysis, other than the city analysis which i showed you. but having seen the success in other cities, knowing the characteristics of san francisco, the sense is if this can success anywhere in north america, which it has, it will be able to succeed here.

one of the biggest dowdies from sharing, aside from another motor transit, -- mode of transit, it is great advertising for bicyclists. it puts bicycles in the public realm. in san francisco, i am optimistic about what the results will be in terms of increased bicycle rideri use a . a couple of questions. you mentioned some of the maps were outdated. i am assuming those are general concepts and we will ascertain flow differently? for example, we have our blue- green way. i would love to see some thought pu of station being put into th.

and large number of users may come from tourists, so have done work with the visitors and convention bureau to work with them to figure out how they might be using that? >> right now, we are reaching out to different groups. we have not met specifically with the bureau. >> they have changed their name, item no. no. what it is. >> just yesterday i spoke with one of the largest bicycle rental companies here in san francisco. they're obviously concerned and interested. the gentleman who i spoke with stan to be heavily involved in bicycle sharing. probably will propose as part of the team, one of the vendors. as i showed, as i tried to show, although tourists will be major users of the system, my

sense is tourists using bicycles who did not use them before. the pricing is such that you would not take it to run across the golden gate bridge, ride it out to sausalito. that is where the core of the business comes from the operators on the waterfront. my hope is it not compete because of the pricing structure. but also, my suspicion is it will actually increase business for the rental companies because people will be introduced to bicycling for $5 and they will see is something that is not so scary after all. then they will be more likely to rent a bike for eight hours and do that longer trip. >> i assume liability will be dealt with? >> absolutely. that is everybody's first concern. i have been working with the city attorney, the port

attorney. we have an interagency agreement between the five agencies i mentioned and a lot of the language in there is about mutual indemnification, holding people harmless. there will be a waiver. really, the city and port will not be a party to the contract with the vendor, and we will not own the bicycles. there will be owned by the vendor or the air district. this is for the duration of the pilot. once the pilot period end, our hope is we put transition seamlessly into a more permanent system, which would be expanded. at that point, we would have to transition into intricate -- different arrangement. we do not know what that would look like, but we have all sort of sign on the line that we would figure it out as it goes. in other cities, it is done

differently. in washington, d.c., it is done on a franchise basis. in minneapolis, it is operated by a private nonprofit. >> i think i have seen them in d.c., i thought that they had credit card machines. >> if you are a day member, or a month remember, it would not make sense to get a fob. the technology for the cards is the same as the clipper card. it is a radio frequency id chip in the card. for the duration of the pilot, we would number in the program for integrating -- we would not burden the program for integrating that into the program. >> i have a question on liability, more about safety

issues, taking into consideration we had an accident here on the waterfront, unfortunately, and a fatality. in other cities, how do they ensure that the people that rent the bikes are people that can actually ride them? i know that you have cover the liabilities side, but just on the safety issue? maybe not for the pilot, but in terms of the people already being conscious -- a lot of cyclists. creating more people on bikes, the safety patterns in downtown san francisco, since there is no secret here, how will that be considered in order to keep the bicycle lists as well as the motorists, and any other pedestrian to say? is this a first-come, first- served? do you reserve through a computer? how do you deal with the fact

that if it is related to transit, would there be a peak demand, where you have more demand in the morning and evening? how is that going to -- how do you manage that? is it just first-come, first- served? you are out of luck if there is no bike left? >> as i said earlier, as bicycle sharing individual tend to be safer than your average or rogue warrior. in terms of educating users on how to use the bicycles, how to ride bikes on the street. with our annual members, we will definitely be sending the material. there will be materials on our website. they are limited to pretty much

what we can convey to them at the kiosk. but we will have safety information available. helmets is not something you brought up. home and use one not be required for this system. it is not really practical. people who rent bicycles usually rent elements as well, but there is a person there to make sure that the helmet fits, that it is not damaged. short of a vending machine, which could be in development, there is not really a practical way to do it. i think people would be reluctant to put on a home and worn by so many other people. what has been done in other cities is members are offered -- they are steered to a local retailer for a helmet. you can buy a fully useful helmut for $6. it does not need to be an expensive model. we will make them affordable for

those that want to use them. to remark on the incident that happened on the embarcadero. my sense is the collision happened with someone at random and red light and ran into a pedestrian. i do not think that will be your typical bicycle sharing user. a phenomenon that we have seen worldwide, definitely in this country, again, counter intuitively come as the number of cyclists on city streets increase, safety also increases, and definitely in terms of the collision right. what we're also seeing in other cities is the number of overall collisions also go down in places where you have high bicycle youuse. by inviting more bicycles, you may think that we are inviting more trouble, but time and again, research out there has

proved what we call safety in numbers. >> my second question was, is it a first-come first-served or do you reserve? when you go to that station, when you punch whatever do at 80 am station, you have a code or something. how do you actually get the bite? >> i am sure technology exists to reserve the bikes, but my sense is a first-come, first- served basis. in terms of making sure they are available, when they're needed, peak times -- is literally a balancing act. i think we are fortunate to not be the first city rolling this out and we can learn from other cities. washington, d.c., for example, after a successful rollout, the

first wave of expansion was not about putting more bikes on the street, but more stations. we can learn from other cities. we will be hiring a vendor that had done this summer else, so they have all the experience that comes with that. a lot of it is just paying attention and acting quickly. >> any more questions? commissioners? thank you very much. a very exciting program. i am looking forward to the outcome. thank you. >> item 11. new business. >> is there any public comment on new business? >> item 12. public comment. >> we do have some speaker currents. curtis lynn. >> i represent some of the pier

38 tenants. we are trying to work with the port for a resolution of pier 38 issues to try to save the largest business and job incubator on the west coast. we would like to become the developer of pier 38. we would like to do the following. we would immediately repair all of the code and safety problems. we would deliver the required plans and proposals to the ports. we would enter into a long-term agreement with the port. and we would develop new maritime uses. we have experience, financial capability, and the business tenants, which means immediate income. we understand there are problems which include code and safety violations, pier apron replacement, bcdc issues, the

ada issues, and other issues. we would also consider repairing the 1.2 $5 million loan to the state department of waterways. -- $1.25 million loan to the state department of waterways. >> thank you. >> hello. i represent a lot of petitioners. i started a petition to save pier 38. when i started to mention that it was going to be close, it raised a lot of concern with people. they have been looking at pier 36 for a decade and they are murren that we are going to end up with another location like that. these are some of the questioner that the petitioners raised. there is a space where the company used to occupy.

that space, according to my knowledge, has been done with all of the permits, inspected by the port. the latest rumor i have heard is there are toxic gases trapped in the walls. can you answer what kind of gases you suspect? we had pg&e expect a place for gas leaks and other toxic gases. they could not find anything. another question is why did the port close the rolling door on the south side of the public access area? why did the port direct offenses on the north side to limit public access as well? another question i have is why the port has done absolutely nothing about safety problems in a timely matter. most of it is easy to fix. the original report came out on

august 16, 2011. town hall meetings took place september 11. notice of repairs came out on to the 212011 but the report patrician started to install on a september 26. why did it take 40 days, media attention? those immediate problems needed to be addressed. my question is, are we tenants on the waterfront a casualty of the legal problem that the port has? those are the questions that come up when i speak to petitioners' spirit it would be nice to have those questions answered. >> thank you. is there any other public comment?

ok, no more public comment. can i have a motion to adjourn? >> motion to adjourn. >> second. >> all in favor? aye. meeting adjourned at 4:26 p.m.

>> i think it ae's public and private property. i'm against graffiti. >> who can get it out the most who can be noticed the most. >> i i've seen seniors doing graffiti. >> the city is art, other people who have their names tag -- >> [inaudible] our unit there are 2 sections we are doing one is abating and others are notice of violation to private property. all the utility boxes in public right-of-way we abate.

>> we abate calls that come within 48 hours. >> we are a small group in g f graffiti. we don't have enough help. >> i have a group in town down and china town and the north tunnel. [inaudible] the graffiti we abate everything is coming up to the areas now. >> i'm willing to take it on. i think -- >> you are telling me you are ready for this? >> i think so. >> okay. >> there you go. >> all right. >> all right. >> ready to do it. let's go. >> want to get the gray signses this over here and the garbage can and normally we don't do private property since it's on

the corridor route you can come with me we will use black. >> we had a lot of changes in the graffiti unit. we do private property if someone moved we remove it and send it to the attorney's office and they take appropriate action. >> damage their property there. it's important to write the color in case they want to say what part of our house you abated the graffiti on. >> using your safety glasses the gloves. >> you got it. >> you know some places we gashi, people appreciate that. you know, a lot of timeses they say, thank you.

>> the time where it's visible. a lot of people put it on the ground. >> i like when tourists come and say, you do this for your city and you get paid for that? >> we use the [inaudible] for the holes and the retaining walls. [inaudible]. white on the fire hydrants. fire box red for the fire boxes. our brown for the pg and e poles. >> we are not painters we do

our best. >> i'm assuming it has to do with gang activity. >> if it's territorial i mind. >> in case it's gang related and they are marking our territory i would like to paint it over. >> anything with numbers like x iv or x 13 west side mob and the bay view those are gang related. with gang related or profanity we will abait it as soon as possible. >> i consider it an art. there are circles of people that form around it whether or not they should ruin public property. >> this is art work i'm for it. unless it's on someone's property and they don't want it there. judge kids with silver paint

expressing their ego needs doesn't belong on our property. >> graffiti is when you don't have permission to write anything on their property. >> eighth street is part of your regular rout? >> yes. >> everyday. >> eighth street. divisidero street. irving street. every block they going through they paint 3 or 4 streets in the block the poles the utility boxes, mailbox. >> thank you. >> okay. >> put the drop cloth. come on around. >> there you go. force for we have to remember we

are not painters we abate graffiti. we are abaters not painters. get that out of the way and keep moving. >> how many of these do you do a day? how many poles we do a day? >> yeah. >> depends on the location. may be 20. >> do you like working with the team? >> yes because i'm a people person. i like being outside and interacting with the public and i like the response we get especially from the good job we do in the community. >> goodbye.