know in san francisco. as much as i enjoy the storytelling of the counselor, it was not brought to the attention that it was going to be on calendar. it is not like things could not be done. i want to make it clear i do not think the police department should be encouraged as a naysayer. police just want to encourage due process. president newlin: anybody else for public comment? matters with the commission -- if you have a month, we have time in our next meeting. if we have time, maybe staff can run it by the city attorney. i certainly do not want to lose your ability to develop something in that area, where

the city needs improvement, especially in that neighborhood. i would not want to do anything that would prevent that from occurring in the long haul. but we do have a process that would be personally -- i would be afraid of going forward with it until we got some directive from the the city attorney -- from the city attorney. with the applicants be amenable to continuing this to the meeting of october 25? >> i would. we would be amenable to that, yes, mr. president. however, i think ms. kane can address this issue. we have been posted 30 days. i am not sure, if it did not go out. that was not our fault.

i think there is a process, and it is statutory in terms of the timeline and the response. i am not sure why zoning did not respond. i am not sure why the police department did not respond. yes, we will take a continuance for two weeks. president newlin: thank you. do we have to vote on the motion? the somebody want to make a motion? no. they requested the two weeks. will we accept a two week extension of this application? >> motion to approve, to continue. >> second. president newlin: excellent. commissioner cavellini: aye. commissioner hyde: aye. commissioner perez: aye. president newlin: item 7, commissioner comments and questions. anybody? >> i wanted to say it is national coming out day.

if you are not out already, do it now. i also wanted to -- howard grayson, who is a longstanding activists -- activist in the city and a long-term member of the harvey milk club. he passed away two thursdays ago. i want to recognize that he will be sorely missed. i think that is it. president newlin: item eight, new business for future agenda items. the what? excuse me. did you want to do a report? a short report? a very short report? [laughter] we have had a lot of action items tonight. >> i will save a few things. i want to rehash what has been going on in broadway.

probably the issue we have right now is with department 24. i would like to maybe sit down with them and hammer out -- we have had a lot of problems. they have just turned over to new owners. we are getting large party buses coming in. it is at capacity. they get off the party bus with a prepaid ticket and cannot get in. it is creating huge problems on broadway. it is overcrowded as well. we have been making sure they are in compliance. lastly, we got a letter from someone that is out of town. i will read it briefly and let you know what we are doing as far as that. "my husband and i are frequent visitors of -- visitors to the

city. we visit giants games, the theater, and many restaurants, as well as other things to do. well there, we stayed in a hotel near the roby sky. on some thursday nights and friday and saturday nights, the clubhouse parties." the person goes into the different issues we have. i contacted roby sky, and we are dealing with that. we are talking about the good neighbor policy. he is extremely receptive. i think we will be able to take care of that. >> i apologize. i wanted to tell officer matthias, since he is here, that the new application for apartment 24 will be in front of the commission in, i don't know -- three weeks? for weeks? -- four weeks? we will have an opportunity in a

formal way to consider that in terms of not just advising, but in terms of conditions. president newlin: 1 comment. i was speaking to some of my colleagues at dpt. they still tow a lot of cars on broadway. the toy trucks are lined up. we see the back end of it. we see the tourists going up there for a nice dinner at night. i think that ask you about this once before, and you felt it was still necessary to control the problems on broadway. the think that is still relevant today? >> is hopeful from the standpoint of traffic, as far as keeping them open, and as far as people not being able to get hold of a weapon while going into their car. i will speak with my captain. we can come back with his

feelings on it as well. president newlin: i would request that if it is determined that it is necessary, we do not seem to be making any progress with the sign shop. we see the back and getting nailed. -- we see the back and getting nailed. the theory behind traffic control is should not be used as a law enforcement function. it is counterintuitive. people are not looking for a towaway. they are going out to dinner. we are not seeing gang bangers coming in. we are seeing live to commit people. -- we are seeing legitimate people. if you want to keep the restriction in force, would you work hard with the captain and police department to press upon the city engineers, the meter

people, or assign people to put individual signs on every meter, just a little sign that says this is towaway on friday and saturday nights? nobody looks for it. i know they have increased some silage, but they are going like crazy out there. we are not telling anybody that is -- we are not towing anybody associated with gangs. we are just penalizing people who come into the city for dinner and entertainment. i hate to see it happen. if that has to be -- if that is necessary, i think we should do stronger out reach to keep people from getting hit so hard. ultimately, they do not want to come back to the city. we are all losing. ok? >> i just want to thank and

congratulate director came and the staff for hosting the eighth birthday party for the entertainment commission two weeks ago, as well as the meeting today. i thought it was a very informative, so thank you. good job. president newlin: it was a very nice party. i got a great picture. item eight, new business request for future agenda items. seeing none, i will officially close the tuesday, october 11 meeting of the entertainment commission of the city and county of san francisco. thank you.

>> the san francisco cons tri of flowers in golden gate park is now showing a new exhibit that changes the way we see the plants around us. amy stewart's best-selling book, "wicked plants" is the inspiration behind the new exhibit that takes us to the dark side of the plant world. >> i am amy stewart. i am the arthur of "wicked plants," the weeds that killed lincoln's mother and other botanical atrocities. with the screens fly trap, that is kind of where everybody went initially, you mean like that? i kind of thought, well, all it does is eat up bugs. that is not very wicked. so what? by wicked, what i mean is that

they are poisonous, dangerous, deadly or immoral or maybe illegal or offensive or awful in some way. i am in the profession of going around and interviewing botanists, horticulturalists and plant scientists. they all seem to have some little plant tucked away in the corner of a greenhouse that maybe they weren't supposed to have. i got interested in this idea that maybe there was a dark side to plants. >> the white snake root. people who consumed milk or meat from a cow that fed on white snake root faced severe pain. milk sickness, as it was culled, resulted in vomiting, tremors, delirium and death. one of the most famous victims of milk sickness was nancy hangs lincoln. she died at the age of 34,

leaving behind 9-year-old abraham lincoln. he helped build his mother's casket by carving the woodallen petition douche the wooden petition himself. >> we transformed the gallery to and eerie victorian garden. my name is lowe hodges, and i am the director of operations and exhibitions at the conls tore of -- cons tore of flowers. we decided it needed context. so we needed a house or a building. the story behind the couple in the window, you can see his wife has just served him a glass of wine, and he is slumped over the table as the poison takes affect. a neat little factold dominion

about that house is actually built out of three panels from old james bond movie. we wanted people to feel like i am not supposed to be in this room. this is the one that is supposed to be barred off and locked up. >> the ole andersonner -- oleander. this popular shrub is popular in warm climates. it has been implicated in a surprising number of murders and accidental deaths. children are at risk because it takes only a few leaves to kill them. a southern california woman tried to collect on her husband's life insurance by putting the leaves in his food. she is now one of 15 women on california's death rowan the only one who attempted to murder with a plant. >> people who may haven't been

to their cons tore or been to -- do serve tore or their botanical garden, it gives them a reason to come back. you think let's go and look at the pretty flowers. these are pretty flowers, but they are flowers with weird and fascinating stories behind them. that is really fun and really not what people normally think of when they come to a horticultural institution. >> "wicked plants" is now showing at the san francisco conserve tore of flowers. unless next time, get out and play.

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tuesday, october 25, 2011. [ roll call] >> in accordance with rule 14, the senior commissioner will be the acting commissioner. >> are there any additions or corrections to the minutes? the i have a motion? all those in favor? motion carries. at this point, i would call for public comment. >> we have a couple of speaker cards today.

>> my name is espinola jackson. i come to you because the last time i have a conversation with you are when you have a combined meeting, this is dealing with the community college. i would like to give you my history. we started the human rights commission in 1962. in 1972, the citizens of san francisco -- because of that, there was litigation. land was given to do what it desired to do. they first offered us the bill, and we said no. we wanted a community college.

the subject would come up like nursing. the class's were closed. we knew what the needs were. we still have been fighting for issues that we have been going through for 50 years. and i am tired. i want you all, as of this day, i want you to have your staff cease and desist, make a decision for what goes on at southeast community college. it is the responsibility of that commission, it was a mandate that we have a commission, and that the community with the desire what goes on in that college, and education and training facility. it is not for what ever you think you might want to have.

once my commission says this is what the community wants, then they can come to you. but at this day, i want you have your staff to cease and desist because i went to a meeting last friday at the chancellor's dated to may, what you're talking about we can't do because they said that we can only have the fourth floor. your staff doesn't make decisions on what happens to that college. when you were set up, i did not know you were being set up and because you weren't even established at that time. it was the public works and the water department. and there are a lot of other things that we were not informed of until 1996. i want you all just to stop because i am getting too old to be stressed. and have my community come to seme.

the majority of them are not going to speak. i liked to stand a better in support of what i am saying to you today. thank you very much. >> ms. jackson, a couple quick questions so i can get my arms around it. is mr. moses here? >> he had an operation a couple of weeks ago. if you look at when the commission was set up, it was the community that hired mr. moses. it was not the city. his own staff -- when he leaves, and i believe he has been there 20 years, he should be about ready to retire, it would be up to the community to decide who

we want to make sure that we get what we started off -- we have not changed our plans. who >> let me ask you a follow- up question. when we were out there a few months ago, we had a chance to hear from them being. -- the dean. he's here, right? >> no, he's not -- i don't think he's here. >> maybe i can help. as i think everyone here what it meant, that facility has been underutilized for some time. he community college district was failing to offer a number of class is, they were closing class is down. they have another center out and cutting other class is. we got involved because we have a responsibility to make that a

vibrant building that is good for the things that you wanted to be. we have suggested a number of things to the community college district. we have met with the chancellor for a long time. based on our suggestions, they added classism and are starting to make it more vibrant. but we don't think this is the only possibility for that building. so we have been looking at other choices that we plan on bringing back to the southeast commission and say that these things look like choices also. do they work? because of that, interestingly enough, the other genes have decided that since it is now a vibrant place, they want back then in a building they were planning on the abandoning in many ways. we're figuring out how to share the space. there have been afternoons were you seeing no one. it sits empty and having no one

uses it is not to anyone's benefit. we're trying to figure out how to program the building to make sense, but nothing will be done without you folks to make sure that everyone is aware of what is going on. city college has flipped on that building so many times from abandoning it to meeting all of it. they're not very good partners, frankly. >> can i make a correction? we have had several deans. they didn't do their job. we could not do anything about it until some of us learned what was going on. we had them removed and we demanded that we have a young man to become the dean of that school. he is not the dna. in order to talk to these young brothers and bring them in.

to bring back the nursing program and bring back programs that we had. this young man was part of that movement. the reason it is going out is because of the change. they had to go get a woman that was the dean of that college. they had to get her out of retirement to come and go with me because of the fact that i am saying what has happened and what is going on. and she is making sure that she went back and told him, what was going on there. what mrs. jackson is saying is a fact. she did a report, and guess what? yes, they are on the road to recovery because of the fact that we passed and acted on a commission because they told they couldn't do anything. i said, yes, you can do

something. that is the reason why i requested when roger it was the ceo to set up a commission that the department of public works into the water department would be responsible for that building. and when i come here this last year, i guess it was last year, i am hearing that you own the building and you can do what you want with it? that is not true. you cannot do that. we are not the garbage dump for the city that we have been all these years. >> we are your partners. and we are the ones helping that building. >> when they had the meeting, i ask that you come into the meeting. that is why you got involved, because i requested it. have the meeting, a combined meeting with the college and your staff came.

i am the one that gave that request because they were unaware of what they were supposed to be doing. i am a fair person. i want you to be fair with my community. i want you to listen to what we want and not what you may think will be good. i have people coming in that says that they are going into the building. you're not going into my building because you're not an educational system. everything that we fought for we are still fighting for. just last week, i went to human rights. all those that were set up in 1962, is on their agenda. nothing has been done. everything that we ever got we have had to fight for. nobody is giving us nothing. don't shoved something down my throat and tell me that you're

going to do this. we fought for it. you didn't do nothing. but make sure that that building would be taking care of with the services that we wanted. when you became a commission. i have never seen your charter. >>, miss jackson, thank you. i'm just trying to get my arms around, because i take it seriously, the cease and desist order. the commissioners, we don't direct staff. i want to figure out -- >> new director general manager to wait until we come together. there is a meeting tomorrow and if you want to send one of your staff to the meeting, it is the governor's committee where we will be discussing what we need to be doing with you and everybody else in this city. >> and i want to work with you directly.

the last time i found it not only educational, but in lightning. and the documents you distributed i went over with a fine tooth comb, and that is the history. promises that were made are promises that have to be kept. i am feeling like i need a little more help to help. i want to be engaged. that way i can be a conduit home and assist you in the way you want. >> thank you very much. >> my name is oscar james, i am a bayview hunters point resident. i was a commissioner when we accepted the property for the college. we had a bayview hunters point college with city college courses, berkeley campus courses, and san francisco state

courses. three months prior to it being opened, the defunded if. of the programs had to be self sustaining and that is why the city college is there by themselves now. when we had all those other courses and all of those other facilities, the place was packed. you say you're having problems keeping the building filled. he brings some of those campuses back. it will help people for that area of education. he became a phd with some of the courses there. those of the type of things we need. but that is our property. we're