talking about earlier. is that too much? >> there is a specific suggestion that is not legal under the state of california, the name of the respondents. our recommended follow up from the report, you will see this in several weeks with an updated in your report, we are planning to have summaries of each substantiated complaint that we have investigated and closed included with what has previously been the accountability report. >> it has to be somewhat general from our perspective so that they can determine the initial complaint and was. >> yes to the finding, but no to the specific recommendation?

supervisor campos: finding seven. the current whistle-blower protections are inadequate. and independent administrative law judge dealing with retaliation issues. that responsibility should be removed from the ethics commission. i agree with the finding, and i do believe that we need to change the system as it currently is. i don't know if the administrative law judge necessarily is the best solution. my experience is that there are benefits and limitations in terms of what they are able to do and the authority that they have. to the extent that you want the strongest possible tool for investigation and

implementation, i don't know if it is the way to go. i would say yes to the finding but not necessarily to the recommendation. supervisor farrell: i will be happy to support that. i would concur with finding number eight. pretty patently stated by the director, saying the to recommendation no. 7, specifically laying out the remedy here is too specific to get into right now for the board at this point in time. i say yes to a to and no to 7. >> i understand the intent, but i would say that in many respects, not only do not want to specify the committee, but in some respects, it doesn't go far out of.

when someone makes a whistle- blower complaint, from the moment in that complaint happens, we in the city should be monitoring whether not any kind of action is taken in terms of the employee. i think from the moment the complaint is filed, you have to be watching that. findin nine, the independent oversight of the whistleblower program, president chiu, any thoughts? president chiu: i am happy to take the controller's recommendation on that. >> that would be no on finding

nine. supervisor campos: recommendation eight. i actually like the recommendation. >> i apologize to interrupt your deliberation. the chair of the business thought a review board with a year earlier and had to leave to go back to work, but on this recommendation, they have forwarded to the civil grand jury and to use the concurrence with the ongoing this -- ongoing the >> finding no. 11, this is,

i think, it seems to me that i am happy to say yes to this, it just seems to be the nature of the beast and nothing to do with how they -- i think it's how they handle certain cases and taking them inside. i would say no to recommendation number 10. supervisor campos: president chiu, any thoughts on 13? whistle-blower investigation, and establishing the appeals process? president chiu: they seem fairly

straightforward. >> the understanding that we will look at whether it is the appropriate mechanism going forward, i don't want to decide that here today. i think there is a process needed to have some type of appeal here. and the findings of 14 and 13, i would be in favor of saying no to both of those. i think it gives a lot of perverse incentives here. i don't think is something that we want to incentivize in our government. supervisor campos: i don't know if the staff and budget legislative analyst was able to follow that. >> i think i have a summary if

you want me to go back through. finding one, disagree. recommendation one, disagree. finding six, agree. recommendation five, disagree spearhead. finding seveneight, agree. recommendation seven, disagree. finding nine, disagree. recommendation eight, agree. finding e11, agree. recommend 10 xinhua,, disagree.

finding 13, disagree. >> no. that's agree. >> that was the one i was not clear on. the finding 14 was disagree. supervisor farrell: recommendation 12 was disagree. supervisor campos: ok, so -- >> there is one more. recommendation 13 is disagree. supervisor campos: we have a motion from supervisor farrell. thank you, colleagues, for your thoughts on that. before we move on this, i want to acknowledge the work of the budget and legislative analyst. their office has spent a great deal of time working with us going through the civil grand jury report. there are very meticulous and

thorough, i want to thank them for their work on this. we have of motion. if we can take that without objection. again, something as important as the whistleblower program, if we don't agree with everything that was said, the kind of discussion that we just had shows the great deal of benefit that can come from this kind of report. i think a lot of good things can happen because of this. i want to thank the controller for his work and to the members of the civil grand jury and members of the public that have been waiting to speak on this matter. is there any other business before the committee? meeting adjourned.

>> good morning. i am proud employee of the department of veteran affairs. i have worked at the va for 23 years. i have been working with homeless veterans for 21 of

those years. [applause] my title now is coordinator. that translates to regional homeless coordinator. region 21 encompasses northern nevada, all of northern california, hawaii, and guam. i want to make sure we have enough resources to end homelessness for veterans. i am proud to be here. i want to welcome all of you to our kickoff event. this is to help launch our national tick off event. the purpose of that is to make

the public aware of all of the services available for ending almost as. there were 28 sites. to run the country. san francisco was one of those. they wanted us to do a kickoff event and let each site decide how they wanted to showcase their program. we got together and said we could not do this without our community partners. the purpose of the networking breakfast was to acknowledge the 30 or more community providers that are here today to help us figh homelessness and end it by

2015. that is the goal of the current administration. [applause] we had our breakfast this morning. people may still be hungry. there is coffee and other goodies. thank you to the salvation army for hosting this event. we have helicopters. we did not do that on purpose, but it adds to the drama -- and the sun came out. i am going to start by welcoming our honored guests. ed is the acting medical center director and my friend. we have worked together a long time. he is a big believer in our mission. lieutenants smith, regional commander of the salvation army. come up here. thank you. [applause]

the principal deputy undersecretary for health. he flew in all the way from washington to be here and speak with us. thank you. [applause] state senator leno, thank you for being here. [applause] mayor lee, thank you very much. we're happy to show you the facility. [applause] and nancy pelosi, democratic leader of the house of representatives. thank you for being here. [applause] we are going to hear inspirational words from all of them. i am pretty excited about that. the pressure is on. i am going to take a few minutes to call out some folks to show

you how we all work together. our partners have really helped us today. is kathleen mccall here? she is the director of the golden gate cemetery. she is one of our partners. thank you for being here. we have our folks from social security. please stand up. thank you for being here. [applause] did i miss somebody? sarah is here as well from social security. when we do our vet connect, she helps us. we get clothing donated and tailored. they shower and leave with

tailored clothes to go interview for jobs. that is pretty special. thank you. [applause] ophelia bascall is the regional administrator for hud. ed cabrera, thank you for being here. [applause] ed and the council are big proponents"srgu on opening dood working on endling homelessness for veterans and everyone. martha is another great provider. she keeps us on the straight and narrow getting our permanent housing vouchers out. my buddy from washington used

to be in palo alto. he is now the chief clinical director of clinical operations for the eight homeless programs, keith. [applause] over there is my other buddy. i have lots of bodies. -- i have lots of buddies. is from the mayor's office. thank you for being here. we could not have done this event without the salvation army. i want to thank jack, the executive director, for all the work you did for this event. i am going to go quickly. stephanie hall, the program director, thank you. cathy cooke, is a veteran's case manager. john, the administrative

assistant. then we have lainie and judy. lainie and judy ar ethe the p.r people for the va incidents -- and the salvation army. thank you. we have people from the state department of veterans affairs. please stand. thank you. [applause] then we have the d.a. case workers, the chief of social work, joanne peters. please stand. we cannot do this without you. [applause] i want to do a special shop out -- shoult out to john walter,

our outreach worker at the va. some job descriptions set all other duties as assigned, he got the assignment of our reach as well. margie from the va and jeff joseph, thank you for being here. [applause] oh, wow. i am so used to my boss, the visiting director, sheila c ohen. we traveled together for three days. she is the visiting director. [applause] we were doing and out each event in hawaii.

i think announced to as a homeless coordinator. we also have the chief operating officer for the division here. [applause] last but not least is my deputy. thank you for being here. [applause] jake martin, thank you. [applause] that is a lot of people. now we are going to have welcoming remarks from the acting medical director. [applause] >> i guess i get to raise the boom. i did not need any added pressure, but thank you anyway. good morning. welcome, everyone. i would like to welcome our honored guest, lt col. steve

smith, senator leno, mayor lee, thank you all for coming today. madam leader, thank you for your an unwavering support to our veterans. it is an honor and pleasure to have you here today. [applause] i am so proud of our mission and to be here today as we bring attention to the effort to end homelessness. she has covered the important role our community plays in the effort. as a career va employee, i have had the privilege of serving america's veterans. it is a particular honor to serve in the mission to eliminate homelessness. sadly, veterans lead the nation in homelessness, depression, substance abuse, and suicide.

these are daunting facts. something must be done about it. with the cooperation and partnership of those of you here today, we will work together to decisively end homelessness. we've heard the list of the formal forces that have gathered. together, i think we can do it. is our honor, duty, and mission to help those in need. the va has set a goal of ending homelessness among veterans by 2015. some may find this a difficult if not impossible goal. we do know that we can reach this goal together with the assistance of our federal, state, and community partners. those who have served this nation as veterans should never find themselves on the streets living without care or hope. i remember the words of an elected official who spoke at the wall-breaking of our

recently opened a clinic. he said he heard people talking about veterans deserving this care. he said there is no deserving in the equation, you have earned it. we agree with that. on behalf of the va medical center in san francisco, a pledge our unwavering support and dedication -- i pledge our unwavering support and dedication to that task. [applause] >> please help me in welcoming lieutenant colonel smith, the divisional commander of the salvation army. [applause] >> i think we're all fighting the microphone today. we're pleased to have you. the salvation army facility. this is one of two alcohol and

drug rehabilitation centers in san francisco. it is part of a myriad of programs we operate in the city. at harbor lights, a veterans can break free from the chains of addiction 3 comprehensive treatment program that offers progressive care, education, work force development, and character-building elements. that is combined with top not counseling and resources offered by the veterans administration's. our graduates have the opportunity to acquire the tools they need to achieve independence and lead healthy and productive lives. the salvation army has a long history with veterans dating back to world war i where our volunteer lassies provided care and aid to those serving on the front lines. i also have memories of my uncle

who was in the salvation army during world war ii. he was assigned to oahu where he would show movies in the fields to servicemen. today whether they are newly enlisted, serving at home, or discharged, the salvation army is there to ensure the health that our brave the veterans never ends. we're pleased to open our doors today to host this great event. we're looking forward to working with vets in the future and specifically to eliminate homelessness among our local vets. thank you very much. [applause] >> i am not going to keep moving it up and down. our first speaker today is va

principal deputy undersecretary for health. he leaves programs for the veterans of the administration. he has been a longtime leader with the va and is responsible for implementing a broad reforms in the delivery of specialty and emergency care and have significantly improved the quality of care provided across the va health care system. [applause] >> thank you. it is my pleasure to be here. thank you for that nice introduction. i have to get this fixed. as a cardiologists, i still see patients. that is the most important thing i do. it helps to give me the

perspective of how to make things better. let me thank the salvation army for hosting us today. this is a wonderful opportunity. i like to recognize the elected officials as of everybody has already done. i think this is a very important statement, the fact that you are here today. it means a lot to this community and us. it is a statement about the kind of support there is for ending veteran homelessness. the folks who have put this together have done a fantastic job. there is little i can say that would add anything to the probable commitment they have to making this program work. as you will hear and learn, this is not something the va can do by itself. this is a program that is built around the organization of our

community partners in ending this terrible problem of homelessness for the veterans. to the community service folks, thank you. we realize you are the ones doing the heavy lifting. your contribution is absolutely necessary in this effort. the veteran service organizations, are federal, state, and local government partners, my counterparts in the state veterans affairs programs, thank you for your leadership. to all of the veterans here and other distinguished guests, we very much appreciate your heartfelt support of this initiative. it is my pleasure to be here to help launch this veterans outreach initiative in san francisco. there are similar programs going on in 28 cities across the country. some are big in some or smaller

-- are smaller, more rural areas. it has taken a tremendous amount of team work to make this successful. i am here on behalf of my boss, secretary shinseki. i want to make a comment about his commitment to this. when he was sworn in two years ago, he said one of his primary goals as secretary was to end homelessness by 2015. that is an incredible statement. he said we would end homelessness. that is going to happen not because he said it or because i am here. that is going to happen because of the passion of the local people dealing with this all across the country.