people build housing, or rebuild housing. why can't we get 30,000 people housed in san francisco? we could pay them, maybe from people like buffett and states. maybe micra financing. think of creative ways to get people into housing. that was our creative idea. thank you. president chiu: thank you. next speaker. >> overhead, please. president chiu: if you put something on it, the overhead will come up shortly. there it is. if it is possible to assist him with the microphone? perfect. >> we have been here a couple of weeks now, at 18th and mission. i have been trying to use this as a reference point for noise.

it is a brutally beautiful, a brutal example of where the city is going. it is 3 years old and pumps a lot of noise about. it is like a niagara falls event. i am going to go from something over the top to something under the bottom. over at third and townsend, the old borders, up a block from willie mays plaza. there is a couple walking right here. they are not even aware of the noise coming out of the garage and the event of but the top. it is a continual noise. the best time to hear it is at 2:00 in the morning, 3:00 in the morning. continual noise. what does it dumped on but another building across the street -- new housing?

we can do better. wrong direction. the noise in this is kind of like a theater, a live stage. they turn the lights off after a play is over. they put a lamp with a bare bulb on the center stage. it lights up the entire theater. that is what you get here. we can do better. "the new yorker," october 17, they have an article on steve jobs. his defining quality was perfectionism. the development of the mcintosh took more than three years because of his obsession with details. he nixed the idea of a internal -- of an internal fan because he thought it was noisy and clumsy. he would agree here. president chiu: thank you.

next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors, members of the public. a beautiful day we are having here in san francisco, november 1. quite a beautiful time in san francisco's history, as well as the elections coming up. it is a poignant moment in san francisco history. it should be noted that a number of attorneys are running for the office of mayor. and there are a number of attorneys sitting on the board of supervisors. it is kind of ironic to me that we need attorneys to represent the public and what the public needs and wants.

and it is blatantly obvious there is something going on when we have so many attorneys involved in san francisco politics. what is the reason behind that? usually, when you are trying to do something you should not be doing, you need an attorney. or when you have done something you should not have done, you need an attorney. that goes to the heart of what san francisco politics is about, which is violating the rights of people that were previously here to accommodate people that want to be here. case in point, golden gate stables was closed with an ordinance by this chamber, saying it would reopen in the

most efficient manner possible. here we are, 10 years later, voting for a mayor, with no equestrian center open. president chiu: thank you. next speaker. >> i am a representative from district 6. 99.5% of the residents of our city our guests find some sort of legal housing to sleep under. there is no reason we cannot push that to 99.9%, which was the norm before homelessness became a problem and identifiable issue in the late 70's and earlier 80's. there are ideologue to "notions and detached, abstract beliefs -- their art in the logic --

there are ideological notions and detached, and toward beliefs. but we need mathematics. we pay over $2 billion to health care every year. a medical savings account is a drop in the bucket. it would have an economically on measurable effect by any tools we have to measure it today. -- and president chiu: thank you. the next speaker. next speaker for writ -- next speaker. >> yes. i will be filing to have my papers deemed timely in san

francisco. i have to the up and lost my baran this assault from the s.f. deede. you could hear the heart wrenching torture. me being hurt. >> york or to get up or i'm going to force you. >> i cannot walk. if you force me, you will be back during me. you are battering me already. >> i was injured and i was hospitalized for hours after this incident. >> and get up. >> [screams] >> and you broke my arm.

>> i have been discriminated in my recovery and as a citizen of the united states. these officers were told of was a campaigner. many supervisors before you have been told of the unfairness of this city. i am a viable candidate to be able to be protected under our laws. to come before you for protection and full recovery and i have not been given any opportunity to participate. president chiu: thank you very much.

thank you very much. thank you very much. thank you very much. if you could please turn that off. thank you, ma'am. next speaker, please. next speaker police. thank you very much. >> good afternoon. i am the executive director of the library users association. i like to talk with you about the library's plan to snuff out every square inch of the vernal heights mural, which includes many things, including the history of vernal heights. in august 2009, a library commission proved to compromise about the murals, which would

preserve the front and replace the sides by a community process. this was passed by resolution of the library commission and sent to the visual arts commission which approved it and send it to the full arts commission in november of 2009. there was going to be a consent of item approval with no discussion was pulled. in the minutes of the library commission, there was nothing that showed what the city librarian role was in the polling. according to the arts commission, it was the city librarian who requested that no action be taken. there was not authorization from this from the library commission and no reporting of what he did after he did it, according to library commission minutes. 1.5 years later, the item appeared again in the library commission agenda. there was no mention of mural in

the agenda and absolutely no mention of a brand new plan to do the opposite of what had previously been agreed to, to eradicate the mural. vernal heights branch library artwork project -- the libraries attempt to snuff out vernal heights branch library mural should be stopped and the mural save and restore. the process was dreadful. thank you. president chiu: to any other members of the public which to speak in general public comment? seeing none, general public, has ended. why don't we go to our adoption calendar? >> items 32-36 are being considered for unanimous adoption without committee reference. these will be enacted on by a single roll call vote.

president chiu: would anyone like to sever any of these items? roll-call vote on items 32-36. supervisor farrell: aye. supervisor kim: aye. supervisor mar: aye. supervisor mirkarimi: aye. supervisor wiener: aye. supervisor avalos: aye. supervisor campos: aye. president chiu: aye. supervisor chu: aye. supervisor cohen: aye. supervisor elsbernd: aye. >> there are 11 ayes. president chiu: these resolutions are approved and adopted. it is now 4:05. let's go back to items 11-13. >> item level is a motion approving the decisions of the

planning commission approving the conditional use authorization at 4141 geary boulevard. item 12 is a disapproving planning commission decision related to the continual -- to the additional use authorization. item 13 is a preparation of findings related to the conditional use authorization. >> the top talents are many parents and those who live very close to the hospital building that is between fifth and sixth avenues and kiri -- and geary. i want to think the project sponsor for making independent offers for eight studies.

i also wanted to get here -- you think the project sponsor for making sure that our office was given information whenever we had questions. i also want to thank jacqueline and the hundreds of neighbors that live within a 500-foot radius of the site. plus hundreds more that are on the edges that have significant concerns about the project. that was one of the reasons why i felt that the project is not looked at very highly by many of the residents around it. i also looked very carefully at russ bengston's radio report that reported the service gaps and the lack of the capacity and the three-page memo that we had

as exhibit c from a number of documents. to me, it lacked showing there was a capacity problem. in many ways, some of the questions i asked at the last meeting for methodology and the number of calls made her versus the number of call failures -- i do not feel like there was enough information to show me that the project sponsor hazmat is a burden of -- had met its burden. in addition, there was quite a bit of information from a number of exhibits that they showed. and although the project sponsor claims that it is not scientific and not checked, i feel like the information in here is, in a sense, we have to question three-page study is done by

radio engineers from verizon. we need to not just rely on the technology data done by product sponsor but you have an independent way to look at data. i will be working to look at ways we can address this at the city wide level. in my opinion, after looking at all the evidence, it seems that the project sponsor has not met its burden of showing that the project is necessary for the reasons i've laid out. i want to urge my colleagues to keep in mind the story raised by the hundreds of residents that wrote to us and the dozens of people that has a lot at the last meeting. human stories that were told to us. also, all the evidence that they have lined up. i feel like there has been shown significant evidence for why we should not approve this project and why the appeal is necessary. i also wanted to emphasize that

this project is proposed for a hospital, the kaiser hospital. it is relying on data provided by the project sponsored as opposed to an independent study. i appreciate efforts to try to bring both parties together, which my office did, but we were unsuccessful. because it is moving toward for a full vote today, i urge my colleagues to support the appeal, as i will. thank you. president chiu: is that a motion? supervisor mar: my motion is that we tabled items 11 and 13 and move to item 124 with a positive recommendation. -- move to item 12 and forward with a positive recommendation. president chiu: seconded by supervisor campos. supervisor mirkarimi. supervisor mirkarimi: last week, i was unable to stay for the

entire proceeding. i believe that is one of the reasons why this matter was continued. i just want to make it clear that i have studied the material and review the rest of the tape, which is why i will be proceeding in this deliberation now. president chiu: our clerk informed me that for this motion, if you are or to reverse the certification, we are talking about approving items 11 and 13 and tabling item 12. can i ask a question to the deputy city attorney? i know there has been discussion about whether or not we should consider an independent study with resources provided to an independent engineer. how could we handle that situation if that was something we wanted to do? >> today is the last day for the

board to be able to disapproved the decision of planning. if they do not act today, then the decision would stand. one option that you have is to disapprove planning but approved conditional use with additional conditions. if you wanted to tie a study into a condition, that would be something to explore. i am not certain how, logistically, that would work out. planning might have some input there as well. in order to do what you are talking about, you need to amend the conditions. president chiu: i would like to ask a question to the maker of the motion. my understanding is that many of your constituents do not support that approach, they just want to get a sense of where you might be on something like that. supervisor mar: many residents and the main project appellants do not want to the regional to see a study. they think it would be biased. verizon is making an offer to

have an independent study done. i would at least like to see that data. if we vote -- if we vote to disapprove the conditional use, i would like to support the amended decision to fund that study and move forward in that way. president chiu: in other words, at this time, you want to leave your motion as it stands. if we had to disapprove that, you would suggest that condition for the future. supervisor mar: yes. president chiu: any further discussion, colleagues? should we do a roll-call vote on supervisor mar's motion. supervisor farrell: no. supervisor kim: aye. supervisor mar: aye. supervisor mirkarimi: aye. supervisor wiener: no. supervisor avalos: aye. supervisor campos: aye.

president chiu: aye. supervisor chu: no. supervisor cohen: aye. supervisor elsbernd: no. >> and there are seven ayes and 4 nos. president chiu: that motion fails. at this time, do we need a motion to table? >> you will still need to dispose of items 11, 12, and 13, because the motion regarding them as failed. supervisor mar. supervisor mar: could you repeat what you just said? >> items 11, 12, and 13 have not been disposed so you will need some sort of a motion to dispense with those three items. supervisor mar: let me ask a

question. can we rescind the vote and replace it with rejecting the appeal but on the condition that the study is done? >> and you can. i think that the board needs to elaborate what the study would be. does that mean the project is approved but the study needs to be conducted within a certain amount of time? what is the consequence for the project? who reviews the study? what is the criteria for the study? supervisor mar: because it seems complex, i will do my best to work with verizon to come back to the board with that proposal will include a study. i accept the vote as it was laid out. what is the recommendation on how to dispose of the items now? my motion is that we table all

three. president chiu: supervisor mar has made a motion to table all three items. is there a second to that? seconded by supervisor farrell. any objection to the motion to table? without objection, these items are tabled. supervisor wiener, do you have a question? supervisor wiener: i just want to make a comment. in terms of what just happened here, we had a situation where supervisor mar stated he wanted to give an opportunity for the parties to try to work together. i thought was a very good thing. we have a situation here where we are not allowed to consider all the facts. i do not want to speculate about the motives of the falls, but in a lot of parts of the city, there are some people who have concerns about health. in terms of esthetics, there was

no contention that you could see this from anywhere. in terms of neighborhood character, that was not argued to be and issued. then we have a situation about this dispute about the data and whether or not there was good coverage. unfortunately, there were not particularly interested in having that independent study. there was not a good way, from their perspective, for it to be independent. we are in a conundrum. i would like to have an analysis. what i would say is that the people who are up -- people who are pursuing these appeals need to be cognizant of that. the facts are what they are. in some cases they might be relevant, in some cases they might not the. but when we are in the process of trying to have an independent analysis, i would encourage the appellant to take advantage of that. that can be useful information.

president chiu: ok. at this time, mr. clark, could you please read the in memoriams? >> on behalf of supervisor kim, for the late kim. president chiu: is there any more business in front of this body? seeing none, we are adjourned for the day.

>> i have 2 job titles. i'm manager of the tour program as well as i am the historyian of city hall. this building is multifaceted to say the very least it's a municipal building that operates the city and county of san francisco. this building was a dream that became a reality of a man by the name of james junior elected mayor of san francisco in 1912. he didn't have a city hall because it was destroyed in the earth wake of 1906. construction began in april of 1913. in december 1915, the building

was complete. it opened it's doors in january 1916. >> it's a wonderful experience to come to a building built like this. the building is built as a palace. not for a king or queen. it's built for all people. this building is beautiful art. those are architecture at the time when city hall was built, san francisco had an enormous french population. therefore building a palace in the art tradition is not unusual. >> jimmie was an incredible individual he knew that san francisco had to regain it's place in the world. he decided to have the tallest

dome built in the united states. it's now stands 307 feet 6 inches from the ground 40 feet taller than the united states capital. >> you could spend days going around the building and finding something new. the embellishment, the carvings, it represents commerce, navigation, all of the things that san francisco is famous for. >> the wood you see in the board of supervisor's chambers is oak and all hand carved on site. interesting thing about the oak is there isn't anymore in the

entire world. the floors in china was cleard and never replanted. if you look up at the seceiling you would believe that's hand kof carved out of wood and it is a cast plaster sealing and the only spanish design in an arts building. there are no records about how many people worked on this building. the workman who worked on this building did not all speak the same language. and what happened was the person working next to the other person respected a skill a skill that was so wonderful that we have this masterpiece to show the world today.