faces were the antennas -- where the antennas will go up. these are my students. we are studying american history. they are very affected by this. we do not know the effects. we're not 100% sure, but is it really worth waiting to find out? there is a fear motive. and also, much of the students are russian. there is a fear from the chernobyl. i taught at the holy trinity church and school for many years before a closed down. before a closed down, actually, before the end, i had the awesome responsibility for being in this other orthodox school,

and what happened is, about a year before our founder passed away, and he -- the principal and the priest passed away, and this other priest took over. one of the children was in my class. we were complaining about it. finally they said -- there is no problem keeping there is nothing wrong. -- there's no problem. there is nothing wrong. there was the chaos of fear that was caused. this was in 2008. this can be checked. so come and now i am in this interesting position -- so, now i am in this interesting position where both my glasses, 25 kids -- classes, 25 kids,

will be affected. i have never worked a better place where people are so loving and helpful. absolutely insane and in my opinion. and i want you to consider how this affects all of us. so, thank you. >> hello, i am the mother of the two kids. i am it from russia. i have nothing to do about -- now, my kids can learn.

they can learn about their background, and who they are. i am it a single mother. this helps me to educate my kids. please support that. you can do it. >> hi. i spent over an hour every day driving to the school. i do it not only because of the fantastic secular education, but because the hebrew academy is the one place in the bay area i can feel at home because i am a religious toause of the today as some, -- it is not just because of the judea's some.

is because of the jewish culture. the russian-jewish culture and reaches the hebrew academy. it is because of this education that any disruption could possibly endanger the future of this will. the hebrew academy is a school where i need and some of my classmates will consider sending their children one day. just the potential of having this sort of harm in radiation near our school could endanger the way the school works, the way the school functions. although some people could speculate that possibly it is

dangerous, possibly it is not from a medical perspective, it is a firm fact that if these antennas were installed, many kids would have to leave the school. whether or not you believe that in the medical problems, you have to admit there would be a disruption of the way the school functions. thank you. >president olague: vadim -- >> [unintelligible] president olague: are there any additional? i may have called your name. please start coming up. >> i am in the 11th game -- and 11th grade. without the hebrew academy, i do not know where i would be. the hebrew academy is the only school with an orthodox rabbi

running the school and in the bay area. i travel on average three hours a day to school and back,. i come to hebrew academy because it is the only orthodox school and in the bay area and without it i would have to live away from my family. please help our school. >> hi. my name is edward. please do not put up those radioactive in tennis antennas. there are many good people who go to the school. we have all grown up as friends in this school together.

i do not want my graduating class in a number of years to have cancer. i want help the friends i can be friends are forever with. what if your kids went to the school and the same thing happened? how would you feel about that? i do not think he would feel right -- you would feel right. i think you would feel a horrified and concerned about your child's health. he would do everything to make sure your child is help the. -- healthy. imagine how our parents feel right now. the hebrew academy is a great school and our parents do not want to take us out of there because the neighborhood does not care about our health. how about we put the neighbors' antennas on our roof? i do not think that cell phone antennas are more important than

the help of kids? if you think they are, then you do not have a heart. what is the point about having cell phone towers anyway? it said they had ever -- so they have better coverage at work? they are at work to work, not be on their cell phones. thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners, ladies and gentlemen. i am the rabbi of the synagogue, mainly russian-speaking jews. my kids are not going to the hebrew academy. i am not teaching there. i do not live in that area.

the reason i came here today, for over three generations, russian jews -- for example, in 1934, my father studied with a rabbi for one week. they came and put him in jail. my parents, my father was a principal in high-school. mother was a teacher. they felt i should be able to get a jewish education. the reason i came here today, i heard many parents were planning to take their children away from the school because of the antennas. it is ironically going to lose

jewish education for the children. i request you reject the project. thank you. president olague: you may want to pull the mic down. [laughter] >> radiation can cause cancer. is a cell phone tower more important than in human life? i am more scared for my brother then me, because he is in kindergarten and i am in the fifth grade. i do not want to go to school and get cancer. the students and parents do not deserve to be scared anyway. thank you. >> what was your name for the record? >> david. >> thank you.

>> hi. our class is opposed to the antennas. we do not want to put our class in there or other classes, because we want to graduate and live our lives and enjoy it. soem of them want to be teachers or scientists, but they might not be there -- might not be that because up and curable diseases. these innocent kids could be in the hospital right now. just one person with cancer is too many. thank you. >> hello.

my name is jerry. i've the daughter goes to the hebrew academy. i am a retired physicist. i worked for lockheed martin. the point i would like to make is that there is only so much wheat we can give to what these fcc deems an acceptable radiation level. it could be anything from vitamins we were encouraged to take or radiation and so on. as research advances, we find ourselves being harmed by something experts proclaimed as being the nine at worst and good at best. -- benign at worst and good at best. you can see it testimony from significant experts on long-term exposure, especially among children. it seems like the installation

of these antennas next to the school is an immoral act on the part of at&t. if anyone has children or grandchildren that would be subjected to this, there is no way they would sign off on this proposal and put children in harm's way. respectfully, i give my opinion that this should be rejected. thank you. >> der city planning commission. -- der city planning commission, hello. i am not the only member of the hebrew academy who is terrified about what is going on. these antennas can cause harmful effects. everyone at hebrew academy is a human like you and me. wouldn't you care if someone you

knew was at risk or at worst getting cancer? these are a little kid brains which are more fragile out, which could stun their growth. all my classmates have been dropping at one by one. i am worried, and this is coming from a normal carefree girl. thank you. >> hi. my name is ellie. i am speaking for me and my school. we are one of the only schools that has preschool through i school, and they are planning to put antennas that can hurt as. we are a really good school. and now we are fighting to not put the antennas.

we had a couple of meetings to discuss the topic of the antennas. most of you that are here today are helping us fight so they do not put up panels. if you can give me -- not only me, but everybody in this room -- an answer, i would be happy to listen. thank you. >> hello, planning commissioners. user is speaking for myself and my school family and friends. -- i am speaking for myself and my school, family, and franz. please do not put up these antennas. these can cause cancer, an incurable disease. i have had family members die from cancer.

i do not want to go through that with my friends. i would rather take everyone's sell funds and in this room. bay have nothing to lose. i am tired of seeing my mom crying every day over these antennas. i understand your job is to mainly care about planning, but is that worth taking away our lives? thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is svetlana, and i am one of the parents of the children. i am con extremely -- i am extremely concerned. it would be more appropriate to place a similar antenna in a

place away from our school. the children are at the school from 8:30 a.m. until 3:30 p.m., and some students day until 6:00 p.m. in the school. we think this is the worst jurors. we do not want our children to be these statistics, that a few years from now we will conclude that the antennas were definitely harmful. finland, russia, germany, israel -- do we have a right? i think, we, the parents, have

the right to choose whether we have the antennas near our children or not. thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is irina. in the mother of four children in the hebrew academy -- i am the mother of four children in the hebrew academy. the and this is in kindergarten. she is just 5. -- the youngest is in kindergarten. i am very concerned about the antennas installation. our family came to the u.s. from russia 10 years ago, seeking a better life for our children. it was very hard in russia with

no hebrew school. in san francisco, with such a great jewish school, the only orthodox school in the bay area that combines a jewish education with a strong secular study program, we were able to provide education to our children that we were only dreaming of in russia. but not any longer. the antennas will be installed on the roof that can next to the school. we could no longer send the kids to the school. we are worried about that. we do not want an experiment. families are like my family will be forced to leave the bay area to find jewish schools for their

children. by the way, my family suffered in russia. my mother was a holocaust survivor. she was in an orphanage in russia for several years. please save the school. another consideration for the parents, a lot of parents came from ukraine and byelorussia. they survived chernobyl. thank you so much. president olague: thank you. is there any additional public -- >> my name is rabbi lipner.

i started the school in 1969, and many of the parents of the students of the school come from a background of anti-semitism. i understand because my grandparents were get road in auschwitz -- ghettoed in action vince. these people are not sleeping at night. whether they are medically right or wrong, the paper, the jewish paper that goes through the bay area, the headline was -- people are not sleeping at night. you can have medical information one way or another, but this is the only school in the bay area where jewish kids can get an education with no compromises.

children cannot usable gary. if they use the f-word once, they are sent home. we read the torah. we keep all the commandments. one of my graduates who was an orphan, she lost both parents, she just graduated from harvard medical school. these parents are not sleeping and 9. right or wrong, -- these parents are not sleeping at night. right or wrong, all the persecution they went through, to causes again in san francisco, it is an atrocity. you cannot do it. thank you. president olague: is there any additional public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. vice-president miguel: yes.

i did not hear anyone make a presentation representing the bureau of jewish education. is there any one present from that institution? i would think that you as well as at&t would be the beneficiaries of this project. i -- and i do not know about the other commissioners -- but i would be interested in your perspective. >> my name is david, the ceo of the bureau of jewish education. thank you, commissioners. we have had two antennas on the roof of our building for the last 14 years. when we were approached by at&t

to upgrade and expand the antennas, it looked like a good opportunity for us. we did not see any controversy in at. -- in it. since that time, i have obviously been >> research and we have no interest in causing any health or safety risks -- we certainly have no interest in causing any health or safety risks to the children in our building, or the neighbors. we have been researching the issue. we have been in contact with the school. we have yet to come up with, for us, credible evidence of health or safety risks. i have a meeting with a few parents the other night, and am

continuing to research this, reaching out to independent experts in the field, because i understand their concerns and skepticism about the information presented to them. i still have not received any credible evidence to support their contention, but it has only been a few days. i am certainly -- i have spoken with the leadership of the school. i am willing to continue to speak with them, to find some accommodation. i have also spoken with at&t to receive assurances that they are not jeopardize in -- jeopardize in anybody's health and are in compliance with the fcc regulations. if we find that is not the case,

our position here would change. thank you. vice president miguel: i find myself in an unusual position. i am the only jewish member of this commission, although i did not receive an orthodox jewish education. i received what i considered, in san francisco, a very excellent education in judaism, as did my parents and grandparents. i am the third generation here. as have mike children and grandchildren, a jewish education. it is distinctly possible in san francisco. i am also very familiar with the basically two major waves of russian immigration in some francisco. my business was in the richmond district. i interfaced with many of them, as well as with the orthodox

community, for that matter, and worked with the jewish community center in their outreach to the russian immigrant population as it came to san francisco. what dismays me, and what i asked for someone from the bureau of jewish education to speak is when to institutions that are sitting side by side have basically everything in common, whether it be education or religion -- they have failed. this is not an all of a sudden deal. they have had a lot of time to get together. and they obviously are not talking. and that bothers me greatly. i am not a scientist.

i cannot tell you absolutely about anything. no one has proven to me it does or does not. to me, that is not an argument in this case. i do realize the uniqueness of the educational institution, and the length of time the rabbi has fostered it in san francisco. i also understand why the russian population adheres to this school.

my college -- my cousin, who is a college professor in new york state, used to spend his summer smuggling hebrew text into russia, followed by the kgb. he got to know them so well he would invite them out to dinner. i am not unaware of all of this. i am going to do something i do not do in these cases. i will do this before the other commissioners speak. i am going to give these institutions one last shot at getting together. more than anything else, as a san francisco do, that bothers me. it really grates on me. you have to get together and talk to each other. you are physically and emotionally