that you can really see how important is that officers get closure to this vocation profession that we are in a verse is just turning your things and after 30 years and you are out the door. it was amazing how many people took the time to come back to participate in the 20-minute ceremony. they brought their family, their friends. the former chief was there. we invited all 10 chief that had been there since my time, hopefully all of them will go. last night, the hospital council donated $5,000 to the police athletic league which they desperately needed. it is a tough time for non- profits and i was there to accept it across the street. an update on the occupied

situation. -- occupy situation. ongoing negotiations between the mayor's office and the interagency city committee that has been ongoing depending on which side you talk to. there have been acts of bad faith, probably the greatest one being the expansion onto market street that happened over the weekend. supervisor kim, we very much appreciate her help. the director from dtw as well as police officers pleading to vacate. as well as the folks that don't claim leadership but were willing to ask, please don't take this block. in jeopardize as our negotiations. last night, very quickly, we went in and assisted in the removal of those and we are back to the status quo.

15 tents were removed without incident. this morning, the mayor's office met with the folks and gave them the conditions that really do make it safe and sanitary. when now have an unbelievable flea outbreak. we have it threatening animals in treatment at the spca. conditions are deteriorating and the mayor is trying to be thoughtful and patient in trying to gain some sort of compliance here. i guess at some point in time, we know how the story ends, but it won't be right now. officers are right now in the process of making arrests in the bank of america on battery and california. several busloads of students came up to the city originally thinking they were going to demonstrate, they were

cancelled. they marched through of the city, went into the bank of america, there are people in a pitched tent, 80 other oflks -- folks that insisted on being arrested. again, i don't know how it will turn out, but for whatever reason they believe that they are urinating into cups and preparing to throw it on the officers. i hope that that doesn't happen. but we will get that figured out as peacefully as possible. and that concludes my report. >> i want to thank you, i was going to mention the commission reports, but the retirement ceremony was incredible. i want to thank the deputy chief for helping you do that. there is a lot of pomp and circumstance at the academies. we welcome them to the family,

and you are right. after 30 or more years, after all they have done, it is not a good thing to do. you had the honor guard and you caught each officer off-guard by asking them to speak. what i heard from some of these officers, every one of them love their job, they never had a bad day, the love the people at love serving. it is incredible. they love the people they work with, they love serving the community. quite frankly, i talked to commissioner dejesus tonight. we like to do it here in front of the commission. we think the community needs to know what someone looks like after years of missing holidays with their families, new year's eve, christmas, working at night when everyone else is asleep. standing at a protest line,

having stuff thrown at them. doing that with great professionalism, doing it for over 30 years to protect the city. we need to honor them more when they leave this department. commander harper, retired captain brown, it was a great thing. all the commissioners should really be there next time. that was excellent. >> i also found the retirement ceremony celebration to be really a wonderful event, thank you for resurrecting that and bringing it back to the department. i have a question going back to the hall report that you gave in connection with the allegations of police theft. it came to the public's

attention a couple of weeks ago. i want to make sure that i understand this correctly and the public as well. there were roughly five allegations of police have, and the article seemed to suggest that it was incidence in the mission, but i am hearing that there was an overlap of officers that were also involved in the single residency hotel video. am i understanding you write that there is an overlap? it is just another part of the same investigation? can you elaborate? >> one of the earlier videos from the months ago that took place in the tenderloin involve the mission station officers doing her hay and bust operation.

the officers themselves were from the mission. the videotape does not suggest theft at all. we don't have a new video that suggests theft. >> i apologize for interrupting, but we are talking about matters that may eventually come before this commission. i think we better be very careful about what we are talking about because those officers do have a bill of rights and protections. we're talking about videos in response to allegations made by the public defender and was running for mayor and i think we should be careful about how we handle this tonight because those officers have rights. they are innocent until proven guilty, and we probably can't come close to talking about that, but i will defer to the city attorney. >> again, i agree we don't want

to get into the particulars of any officer investigation into any particular officer. if the chief can give a high level response that harks largely process for department procedures, department practices, that would be fine. it is appropriate to be careful about not disclosing particular allegations or particular officers involved. >> thank you, president mazzucco for that concern. it was not towards those officers involved, but the overlap of the incident. are we talking about the same people with the same incident that has already come to our attention, or are these new incidences, the theft incidents that is not related? >> there are no new officers,

and the officers involved in the video, there is no suggestion that there was dishonesty involved in that incident. that was an issue where he sees some force issues that i, quite frankly, did not see. on the other reports, there is a suggestion of dishonesty involving some of the same officers. >> i see, ok. thank you. commissioner chan: i have a question about occupy. what is the intention moving forward? you mentioned the mayor had a meeting with them. i was curious to what the ground rules are moving forward? >> i don't have them committed to memory. the folks at the federal reserve

have also violated the guidelines that we were operating under that i wrote myself. again, in the spirit of this negotiation and i am not party to, we did not want to push the envelope for pushing the envelope's say. i know the mayor is working to try to find out an alternative location, because they have surpassed critical mass in the area that they are in. there is spacing being asked. there are a variety of things being asked. i suppose i could get a list, but it is not a private document. it was dispersed to the group several times. i know they're supposed to be an inspection today at 4:00 with the safety group that is fire, animal care and control, and the

mayor's office of homelessness. i don't know how that went. as far as the police department knows, our role in this is to provide safe conduct for any of all of those -- safe conduct for any or all of those agencies. we had a couple of officers at the demonstration. there is a fringe group in and amongst the genuine occupy folks that have turned out a lot of the original occupy folks, so we are trying to strike a balance. commissioner chan: it would help to see that list because i get a lot of questions. commissioner slaughter: thank you for the report, particularly about the ocupy situation. -- occupy situation. thank you for your tremendous

respect, leadership,,. i can't imagine you have gotten a lot of sleep over the past weeks and months and that this has been going on. it is a spot where we need to be tremendously respectful of their first amendment rights and they need to figure out a way to be safe in expressing their views. it is a very difficult situation. cities are struggling with striking that balance and you are right in the middle of this. i want to let you know that we appreciate the hard work, i've appreciate the hard work that you are doing to strike the appropriate balance while realizing that reasonable time, place, and manner are placed on speech, but people can express really important sentiments. thank you for your hard work on that, chief. >> of the officers that have been working this thing, it has been cold, wet, trying, and the

class and professionalism and restraint that they have shown, i could not be prouder to be the chief of this police department. >> anything further? let's move to item 3b. >> their review of recent activities. >> thank you, president mazzucco. in terms of the occ case load, 695 complaints have been filed. we have close to 710 cases and the sustained 54 of them. complaints are still trending down, we are at about 90% of the complaints that were filed at the same time last year. complaints are down 10%. we continue to operate as a

mediation program despite the leaves of the mediation program coordinator donna salazar. the cases were closed intermediation. the mediation rate is 8% of closed cases. in the year of outreach, the chinatown resource fair, i attended the international house of berkeley. also a dive for diversity event at the law firm and the three hundred and seventy fifth anniversary celebration of harvard university. at each of those events, i had the opportunity to network with attendees as well as the host of the event. i told them about how the occ operates and what the function is. will present the third quarter

statistical report and the october monthly statistical report. that concludes my report. >> any questions? line item 3d. >> commission reports, first of the president goes a report followed by the commissioners reports. president mazzucco: rejoined on sunday night for the memorial for officer james gelf that was killed in 17 years ago. it changed what type of weapons they used. constantly hearing negatives, the positive of what i saw was that the moment of silence, they literally stopped all city broadcasts and play it out of the air where they take a moment for the officer.

for 15 seconds, the turn of the red and blue lights on and hit their sirens. that is a great memory for a great officer. thank you for bringing that tradition back. it was well attended and an honor to be there. >> anything else to report? >> i guess it has been a couple of weeks now. the captain of arranged for a lieutenant mar to do a tour of the station that i found very interesting, followed by a ride along with a field training officer watley. i got a feel for the district, there are three or four stops of minor calls of duty.

all in all, a very enlightening experience, and i are appreciate that. >> as we got to meet the famous ltlt. slash doctor. >> item 3d. >> commission announcements and scheduling items identified for consideration of future meetings. >> i know that we're talking about issues of possibly reducing the number of meetings, so i suggest we put the item on for consideration, one of the meetings in december. many commissioners have bought up, we have lowered the case got it from 77 cases to 16 tanks to the work of the police department, the commissioners, everybody involved. so maybe we should condense our agendas and meets twice a month

or three times a month. commissioner slaughter: i am all in favor in putting that on for discussion and possible action sometime in december. since i was the one that opened my big mouth about it, i am happy to work with the city attorney and whoever else to propose changes to the rules that would be necessary. >> i guess next week, we will not be meeting. >> the night before thanksgiving will be going dark. >> commissioner kingsley. a missionkings -- commissioner kingsley: the number of times we me, i think, as an important discussion. i suggest we couple that with the discussion of the resolution that goes through all of the

responsibilities and obligations of the commission, and of the proposed calendaring of meeting those responsibilities, also considering the timing and frequency of our meetings. >> when do you want to calendar that? >> december 7. it is available -- december 14 is the medal of valor ceremony. >> december 7 i will not be able to be here. >> thank you very much, everybody. >> the fourteenth is the medal of valor ceremony? is it going to be at the same place as the last two years? >> yes. 6575 owens.

>> any public comment regarding the item3a, b, c, d. back up to three minutes. >> commissioners, first of what to complement of the chief on the movement of the new id selection process. there have been more and more stories coming out 3 that the united states of people that have been determined by dna evidence and other reasons to be found innocent of crimes they have served 20 years or 30 years in prison and released that the folks who identified about were incorrect even though there were honest efforts. i have seen the up and it looks like it will greatly reduce the chances for an incorrect light up.

the second thing is the retirement ceremony. i was on the commander-in-chief of the pacific fleet in honolulu and they did a study on retention, a $12 million study. the question was, what do we do to get people to reinvest? after a bunch of money spent and studies coming back, they said there is not a lot you can do. most of the recruits, most of the people made up their minds in the first 90 days as to whether they were going to stay at or not. if they had a good experience, if it was a bad experience, they stayed. if it was a bad experience, no matter how good it turned out to be, they decided it would not be a place to stay. if you want to focus your efforts is in the beginning when you get people and the

expression of like to use his catch them young and raise them rights. the military spends a lot of time on retirement ceremonies, nobody wants to think i will spend 20 or 30 years serving the city and the citizens and have somebody say, we have used you up, goodbye. and everybody looks the other way out uncomfortably. again, my appreciation for that effort. on the occupy wall street folks, i want to take what the chief said. most of the problems are going to be the fringe folks. for every one person, there will be nine there that are using their constitutional rights to congregate, to speak, petition for a redress of grievances.

it is unfortunate that we have seen the number of fringe people messing it up for everybody. there is an old expression, there is hard to -- when you are up to your ass in alligators, it is hard to remember your original intention was to drain the swamp. doing what they feel is appropriate, those causing problems should not reflect on them. >> any further public comment? please call item no. 5. >> discussion and possible action regarding whether the police commission can authorize and supervise assistant patrol officers and provide an interpretation of rule 4.11 and 4.12. >> thanks, lieutenant. sargeant? >> good evening, commissioners.

[unintelligible] a housing unit liaison patrol units specialization. the interim rules and procedures for patrol special officers and assistance, this came to me on november 1, i had a conversation and i made a phone call to him to find out the status. apparently he was told a year ago that he was going to retire from the patrol specialist and no longer to be working. i call to clarify that and there is the documentation of that statement. he told me he was unable to work his be, but he was allowing other officers to work his beat.

one assistant patrol special officer has been a regular, other officers working the beat in the tenderloin. at the time i reviewed the rules and i advised them, and he is not allowed to do that. and did not feel it was appropriate at the time to tell them to not have the special officers work the beat without clarification from the commission, but according to the rules, it says the patrol specialists and their assistants shell told there be constantly and diligently. and control specialist must participate. they cannot solely rely on the assistance to conduct the patrol. with my conversation, he

admitted he was not working to beat but he stated that he can manage his feet without actively participating. i further a revised him regarding 4.12, its as patrol specials and a half assistance if one more person is qualified had authorized to perform services. the patrol a special, he claims he sent a letter to the lieutenant indicating his medical condition. i did not find any records of that, he did send me a copy indicating his preference. the reason i bring this up is to ask for clarification of the ruling of how it should be interpreted so i could for the

proceed with the patrol specialists. they had other professionals working their beats internal lumber -- is no longer active. >> i understand that he is medically unable to work the beach for a year. does he live in this city? gosh yes. >> officer warner is deceased and she had a beat. if someone working on her feet since she is deceased? that is also a conflict. >> somebody might be working the be. it has been brought up with the prior and illustrator. somebody has made a phone call to the person managing the be, i have not received phone calls back from her. >> there are decisions we need

to talk about. there seems to be a conflict in these rules, but it is not unreasonable the -- it is essential for the owner to know the client and monitor his assistants and to clarify what the role of the assistant is. the only other question i have, [unintelligible] is he getting -- >> i believe so. there is one other thing, he is a se processedlling his beta to john fitzinger. he has not received any paperwork. despite the documents earlier this year, they indicate information, there are zero in

triplicate form. >> it seems like something we need to address in terms of policy. what is the conflict between these rules and the policy and what do we expect from the officers in terms of how the beets are going to be monitored? and if something happens where a beat elinor is incapacitated or deceased, how do we take control of that particular beat and put a time line on when that beat is sold or not have reverted back to the commission. the commission can retire it or put it up for sale and to make the decisions so that everybody understands the process. >> we have