the public business, it is at least possible -- the lot is not very well developed on this issue, there have been a couple of cases, but we have not been given enough guidance yet, but it is possible that that could be subject to disclosure. i want to make sure you are all aware of that. ok, so now we know what a meeting is. we can go on to public notice. of course, all of your public meetings have to be noticed, and your secretary is an expert in that in making sure that is done properly, and that notice includes your agenda, and you cannot act on any matter or discuss any matter that is not on your agenda. i think you all are well aware of this issue, and just a reminder, it includes

discussion. an item that is not on your agenda. director: can i ask for a clarification of the process? >> sure. director: for an item to be on the agenda. >> the way that that works is that your agendas are sent by the director of transportation and the president or the chairman of your board, who sets the agenda and decides when items will come before the board, so an individual board member does not have the authority to command that a certain item appeared on the agenda at a certain time. that is how the process works. president nolan: but as often happens, and during comments, as

director brinkman did, that is -- >> that is ok, because you are hearing from the board, know what items the individual members went on, and you are discussing it with the director, especially if it requires some kind of staff action or staff report. you are making sure. you are doing that in your function as a chair as administrative matter to make sure that everything can come before the board in due course. and there is no problem with individual board members stating what they would like to have on the agenda, telling the executive director, that they would like to have something on the agenda, asking the chair to place it on the agenda. that is perfectly fine. that is what you do. there are some exceptions to the

rule about not discussing items on the agenda. they are extremely rare, but there are some in emergencies. you sometimes will be able to discuss matters that are not on the agenda. of course, our office would be giving you advice about this. i have been in this office for 22 years, and i think the only time i have ever seen this happen was after loma prieta. and this goes back to your question, about not discussing items on the agenda. it does not prevent people from asking to put something on a future agenda, from a board member following up on public comment, for asking for clarification about what their concern is, a public common with the reference to staff or other resources or asking staff to

report back on something that a member of the public is commenting about. so one of the other tenants for public meetings is that the public has a right to comment at all public meetings. they have the right to comment anonymously. your secretary asks for people to provide a speaker card, and that is fine, but if the speaker does not want to fill a speaker card, they have a right to address you. they have the right to criticize the policy body, criticize members of the policy body, to criticize staff. again, they need to keep on topic. and they do not have the right to discriminate against members of staff, make discriminatory comments. that, again, is a matter that the deputy who is present would

be advising about if you got into a situation like that. speakers have a right to equal time. you must give speakers equal time on the particular item, and speakers have the right to translation. the members of the public that do not speak english have a right to have their comments translated, and one more point of clarification because we have had that come up a bit, our understanding is, for example, if we are giving three minutes of public comment, and the person needs translation, it is three minutes for their comments and three minutes from the transmitter, but if they are translating their own comments, it is a total of three minutes. >> i think that is right, click. >> madam chair, three minutes for the speaker, and then i do not time and all the translator.

>> the limits on public comment, speakers have up to three minutes on an item. i know you are all familiar with this. sometimes you get less for everybody. they do not have the right to speak off topic or to discuss other meetings. they do not have the right to a response from the board or staff members. that is absolutely discretionary. and they do not have the right to discriminate against city staff. >> can i? so the no right to speak off topic, sometimes in a meeting we have some guy talking about steve jobs, just going off, and there was another person who came up and sang a song in the past, and i am wondering -- i understand that they do not have the right to do that so to speak, but i am just curious as

to how we should be handling those things in the future because i also want to encourage a sense of discipline from within this room, and i am wondering -- >> president nolan: the singer, i understand that he addresses the board, and it is topical. i had someone injected it from the room by sheriff's because he just would not stop. it was a very tense situation. in the event that it was kind of widespread and people would not respect that, we have the ability as in the chair to ask for a recess and actually clear the room, but you have to allow them back in, is my understanding, there may be only a few at a time. >> yes, and i have definitely

seen that happen. it can be quite effective. it can be really effective to recess the room, to allow people to calm down, to tell people that you want to go on to the meeting and that you want to hear from them and that you do not want them to shots of the people can be heard. i have seen that on more than a few occasions. i have never seen a chair just let a few people back in at a time, but our office has advised that you can do that if it is absolutely necessary. president nolan: there is something that takes their 2 billion minutes, and they are speaking about something that is fairly jermaine, it is sometimes easier to let them finish.

director: maybe some directors do not like that so much. >> that is what i have seen cheers do, interrupt the speaker and say this is the topic, or we are on this item. you can comment on this item, or we are in general public comment. do you have something to say about things that are under our jurisdiction, and generally that leads to it. you do have a situation sometimes where people for whatever reason, maybe because of a mental disability, really cannot stay on topic, and i think years handle it in different ways. director: i have been thinking that you have done a good job so

far , so the thank you. president nolan: we had a meeting before the was almost seven hours long. >> the policy body has to meet in public, and you are allowed to meet in closed sessions in very limited circumstances. personnel matters, pending litigation, labor negotiations, realistic negotiations. there are a few others that occur from time to time. in terms of closed session, one of the most important things to know is that although some actions that you have taken must be disclosed when you return to

open session, and, of course, the board votes after every closed session about whether it wants to disclose the closed session. in general, the closed session is confidential, and if the board has voted to not disclose, then the material, what was said, is confidential, and it is a violation of state law for individual board members to disclose the closed session discussion. president nolan: have you ever seen in 22 years someone disclose it? >> no, i had never seen the city go after someone.

director: what is it that allows us to all go to something like the recent streetcar presentation? >> if it is open to the public, maybe a public meeting, but it is not your public meeting. it is the meeting of a state board or a federal board, it is a ceremonial gathering or other gatherings, or even a social gathering that is not put on by you, that is not, for example, a christmas party. it happened to be in your circle, and more than a majority showed up. the important thing to remember there is not using that gathering as an opportunity without thinking about it to

talk about things that are under your jurisdiction. thank you. president nolan: not coming to my house for christmas. secretary boomer: some members of the public that when it to discuss with you, but seeing we have no closed session. president nolan: do we need a motion to adjourn? so moved. we are adjourned.

director kim: welcome to the transbay joint powers authority board directors meeting. my name is jane kim. i will be chairman today's meeting. please call roll call. >> director sartipi has a prior commitment and will not be present. [roll call] you do have a quorum. director kim: thank you. please call item 3. >> communications -- there are none to that i know of.

director kim: item four. >> director of new and old business. director kim: you can move on to item by if. >> good morning. we continue our coordination with stakeholders involving the transit agencies, east bay peninsula, city and county of san francisco, state, and federal agencies. with respect to our construction documents, early below rid of construction documents were received on the member for, on target to issue the bid for the early below great package around february 2012. 100% contraction documents for the transit center, 95%, 96% cds will be issued in the spring. we have moved a bit date to january 2012 to allow the design team to complete further testing. with respect to the bus storage, we are making good progress with caltrans.

we are ready to issue an rfp for construction management services some time at the beginning of next year. we held an outreach meeting this tuesday which lasted two hours, well attended. we had over 50 people there. the rail extension, we continue to work closely with a high- speed rail authority on the construction documents, the low- grade components of the document as well as the extension. in addition, i wanted to announce on december 2 we will be hosting an archaeological exhibit at our building at 201 mission pear that will run from december 2 through january 2012. we will be showing the artifacts that we uncovered from the transbay site. there will be artifacts, including industrial tools, household items, and remnants from the 19th century. it should be interesting for students and those interested in

a san francisco's early history. we are more than happy to rotate the exhibit. we could have it at mtc, the east bay, and other places surrounding the bay area. i also wanted to mention the san francisco unified school district has graciously invited us to their december 8 ribbon cutting from 1:00 until 2:30 at john o'connell high school. we will be present at that unveiling. congratulations. that is huge. we appreciate the invitation. the address is 2355 folsom st.. finally, more good news. the transit authority was awarded a $1.24 million grant from the federal transit administration so that we can complete some environmental work for the rail component of the private that we needed to do as a condition of our receipt of the $400 million grant.

now i would like to ask steve to give our construction updates. >> good morning, directors. construction management oversight. this month, lots of good progress occurred. you will notice the presentation is different. i took out all of those bullet points about the utility'ies. the reason for that is most of the utility work is complete. we are repaving the streets. there is one package to do, the obsolete water system on mission street. that is scheduled for the first quarter of 2012. the remaining packages are pretty much done. the time line that it before you on the screen, we are still tracking that. pre-trenching is fairly well along. completed this past week a final section on natoma.

cdsm, we will show you pictures of that as well. the west end of the project, everything west of first street is completely surrounded by shoring wall, at this point. zone 3, about two-thirds of the way down with the cdsm there. we will have all the shoring wall complete by the end of the week with the exception of street crossings, which rely on utility relocations. director ortiz: could you refresh my memory on the cdsm. >> cement deep shoring wall. we use that to create the perimeter around the project. zone 4. we continue to buttress work. that has made good progress. we are just over 2.5 shafts per

week, which is the goal to get to to complete our work on project. this week, having to report we will complete three full shafts. on the screen now you can see we have completed the sea dsm -- cdsm on the west end of the project. we mobilized to the south side and will complete that were before the end of the month. east end of the project from freemont through beale street has been completed. all that will be left on the shore wall will be the street crossings after the next phase of utility. to give you an idea between the sides, the photo on the left is the end of september, on the right, the end of october. that is where the buttress work continues. it is hard to see a lot of

change there but we have been very successful with the buttress work. the rest of the site, you can see how the area, their rigs that do the cdsm work, shore mall, have moved around. particularly, notice the large area of steel is getting smaller and smaller as we go to october. those beams code to the shourd wall. them minyas street operation was complete. the fence line will be moved just to the outside of the steel beams you see sticking up that represent the edge of the shoring wall. ministry will be reopened for the remainder of the project. i think it actually happened last week. there is a shoring wall at the law west and -- the west end.

we crossed fremont street the weekend before last, earlier in the month of october, completed across first-rate. these crossings are halfway across which allows us to move utilities one more time back over into the zone that the shoring wall has been completed in. then during the remainder half of the street. the infrastructure of the work has already begun on first street. here is a progress update on the buttresses being completed. the green ones are completed and poured out. the two yellow ones will be completed tomorrow, with the one on the left side being poured story to it tomorrow morning -- starting tomorrow morning. the rig has been moved up into the green wrote, we called it m1, which we will start drilling this morning that hole. here are some shots of the

buttress operation. you have seen this before. this last month we install the first reinforced buttressed shaft at location c1. we had some good luck with that. the contractor estimated it would take 20 hours to lower the continuous regard cage. only took about 10 hours. it looks like it will be easier than they hadn't originally envisioned it. some of the utility work finished up, restoration of the roads, and the start of face to infrastructure utilities on first street. we have given this were to balfour beatty and their subcontractors, reimbursed by pg&e to get the infrastructure in. and pg&e will come in at the end of the year and pull all the cabling and make the cut-over is allowing us to complete the shoring wall on the other side of the street. just a summary on the local labor, out of the 129 kraft

hours completed by webcor's team, 87,000 have been completed by local labor. if there are any questions -- director kim: comments or questions? director reiskin? director reiskin: thank you. ghraib report. it looks a tremendous progress that you all are making. -- great report. while it is clear the progress is significant, just looking at the graphics of the status of the wall, but dress, it looks like you might be running ahead of schedule. it would be helpful in these presentations to get a better sense of not just how much progress we are making, but where we are relative to the baseline original, and baseline cost. just glancing at the summary, it looks like you are going to beat the shoring wall and buttress.

>> that is based on the original baseline schedule. more than one month ahead in completing that area. unfortunately, that is not worth the critical path runs through the project. that is through the buttress that at this point. a thing that we can do to expedite that. but it is getting close to right where we expected it to be. there had been some issues with deeper holes. the rock is a bit deeper than originally anticipated, which often happens when you're doing a kind of work. but they are stepping up to the plate, so to speak, in getting the ball rolling. we are getting close to our projected 2.5 per week, which would keep us on schedule. director reiskin: and not all of them are reinforced? >> no, just along the shoring wall, and each of the vertical columns of schatz gets reinforcement -- shafts get

reinforced at the end. wherever the road ends, the last one is reinforced. >> we have asked last time to get a break out of the san francisco cfraft hours. perhaps trade by trade? >> we can provide that. director kim: thank you. >> now i would like to ask kevin clench to do the presentation on the bus ramps connecting the transbay transit center to the bay bridge. we have been working closely with caltrans. we have also presented and worked with planning and the redevelopment agencies and their staffs. >> good morning, directors. i am the product manager for the project. we are the segued to steve's presentation.

we are the product engineers for the deal-technical work. there is some overlap with wednesday was doing. i am here to present the update for the bus ramp design. i will go into some of the more specific aspects of the ramp. then i will talk on -- touch on the lighting and size the criteria. i am sure most of you are familiar with but the bus routes are, what they connect, but to show those who have not, the trend a terminal is on the left. the bay bridge is off to the right. the bus ramp is intended to connect those two as well as the bus storage facility, which is unfortunately off of the image. at this point, we are halfway through the design, approaching the 65% milestone which will be presented sometime early next year. focusing on the cable space --

cable structure, which is the closest part of the structure at the transit terminal. a couple of renderings to show you. this is the first year this is from second street down to howard, to the east. the one thing i wanted to put on the slide, in the diagram to the left, the train box extend well beyond the face of the building where the bus ramps enter the facility. rather than putting a foundation through the train box, which would involve some different structural interactions, we chose to put the support for the tower away from the train box, which led to a long stand. we considered a number of different options and decided that the cable stay solution was the most effective. that is how we have arrived where we have. the second image,