provided to you in the board packet, the at&t radio frequency expert explained in his statement that while signal strength is an important factor, so is noise, and the more noise in a particular vicinity at a particular time of day, the more likely connections will be unavailable. the statement includes the signal to noise information that topix the coverage and the coverage gaps in the area around the site. in addition to the information provided in our own analysis, at&t this week asked a third party firm to conduct their own noise and capacity tests in the area using separate equipment and methodology to determine whether coverage gaps did exist, and bill, as i mentioned, conducted those tests and is with us today, if any of you have questions about his third- party analysis. he concluded his report just yesterday, so that information was not included in your board package in time to be

disseminated. i want to end today by thanking the department's death by their -- for their hard work, and we ask for your support and to approve the decision of the planning commission as we work diligently to upgrade our network. i am happy to answer any questions you may have. president chiu: colleagues, and questions? supervisor cohen? supervisor cohen: i was wondering if you could go over some of the third-party information that is in your analysis. >> if it would be ok, i will bring him up. i do not have the data with me. supervisor cohen: that is ok with me. thank you. >> thank you, supervisor, president chiu, supervisors. my name is bill.

i manage a firm of 17. we are located up in sonoma, and our clients include at&t, at&t competitors, and our rural as engineers are to just determine the numbers, what are the facts. we took numbers in the visitation valley over the weekend. we did this over three days in order to get a variety of airtimes, and if you can see here, we try to cover the whole valley. this darkhorse is the extent of service that would be provided by this site due to the typography. there is a rich, and the site would not see over the ridge. there were 31 to locations that we chose evenly spread throughout the valley in order to get representation of what the conditions would be over the entire valley, and these, all of the way down here on the far side of the businesses see's plant, and so far issue was not

to review any other documentation that at&t might have internally or might have submitted. it was to determine on our own what are the actual numbers, and what we found, not surprisingly, is that at different times a day, the demand varies. this is the text of our letter report, and what it shows is that of the 31 locations at 3:00 in the morning, but only one side was at capacity. and at that time, there was no additional traffic that could go on at that site. so there is plenty of capacity at 3:00 a.m., but if you look at the next set of measurements, which were done at 11:00 a.m., at this point, almost half of the sites, 15 out of the 31

sites, had so much traffic on them, had so much demand, that they were at capacity or in some cases were trying to go over capacity, and then at 8:00, that number was up even a little bit higher, and this is not surprising because the demand for the services coming from the residents and businesses in the. -- that is why the carrier puts his close to the people they are serving, and that is what drives it. we did this over the weekend. on a weekday, you would expect more businesses to be active, or on a weeknight evening, those numbers might be a little bit higher, which could mean that there could be more sites that are at capacity. what this means is that people may have full bars on their phone, but the question is if you can get a connection between

that and the handsets, and the actual data. people talking in a large room and having to shout over each other as they are trying to communicate, in this case, with the carriers do when they add a sight to the network is to turn things down, adjust the network to accommodate that there is another place.

in an emergency, everyone picks up their cell phone, and that tends to really stress the system. in that case, you would want to have more capacity to accommodate it, not less. i hope that addresses your question. i would be happy to talk about any other aspect of this that you might have questions about. president chiu: colleagues, any questions? supervisor cohen? supervisor cohen: know. president chiu: ok, why do we not go to those who want to speak on behalf of the project sponsor? >> mr. santiago, an executive director of support services. i am also on the faculty at san jose state university in the

public health sciences department. we also provide services. in fact, we just recently received funds to provide kinships services as well as child interactions services where across the street at 201 leland, and this is 199. i just want to say that the evidence, the public health evidence, just does not support risk for either of my staff or the children or the families. the other thing that i want to say is that we are concerned about good service everywhere, because we want to be efficient and competitive, and we want to be able to access our patient data, our client files, electronically, through the ipad or other devices, and we are customers of at&t. this one it will be accessible through these data networks, and i again support anything that

will allow us to have the technology to be more efficient. thank you. president chiu: next speaker. >> once again, my name is -- and i have been living in the area. i have been using at&t for many years, and because i do not have a home phone, i rely on myself and, and my friends and family call me on my cell phone, but sometimes i get a job calls. i have no reception. i feel like it is really, really bad, but the reason i keep at&t is because i like the phone and can use a overseas, china. if they were able to provide better service, i would support that. thank you. president chiu: are there any other members who want to speak on behalf of the project sponsor? all right, at this time, i like to bring up some to speak on

behalf of the appellant. >> i just want to repeat a request that because we got such short notice for this meeting, we'd like to ask for a continuance of this decision until december so we can submit additional supporting materials, including an expert report. i want to ask a question. are you a paid consultant or with at&t, or are you an independent consultant? who spoke earlier. maybe some money from at&t. president chiu: you are not allowed to ask questions to any of the parties, but if any of my colleagues want to ask, they can. >> ok, so my request is for a continuance because we did not have time to prepare in such a short time, whereas the other cases also had one month to do that. i also had a question about the

earlier comment about using dph to check on sites, unless you provide a language access, that is not going to help anybody, especially in this community. if at&t feels this is a concern, i think they should be talking to the community about it but not brushing it away. many people do have other concerns, but the main one is that we continue the request that at&t considerably recology site in order to satisfy their proposal to have it for their interests along the highway. this was their original proposal when we had the leland

avenue street fair. again, we need more time to prepare, and we would ask for the indulgence of the supervisors. president chiu: thank you. colleagues? supervisor cohen? supervisor cohen: yes, i would like to ask bill to come up and state for the record whether he is an independent contractor or not. >> yes, i am an independent contractor. my clients include at&t, at&t competitors. at&t has asked me to be here today to represent the findings of the measurements we took. supervisor cohen: so you stand by these findings, and you put your career on this? >> i do. that is the purpose of the

stamp. thank you. supervisor \ cohen: thank you. president chiu: supervisor chu: i just want to be clear that we cannot work with the health aspects as long as they meet federal guidelines. i know those were some of the comments made by individuals today. in a previous item where we have this come up before us, we actually have the organization -- it was a different carrier at the time, commit to working with our community and the department of public health to make sure that if individuals did want to make sure that after installation that it did still meet the requirements that the fcc provided that we would go ahead and do that, so i just want to see if at&t and with our

department if you would be committed to making sure that we do provide those services to individuals. >> absolutely, supervisor. we are happy to do that. supervisor chu: and no we have our office of language access here, and i am wondering if we might be able to utilize some of their services to make sure that the messages carried out and that the people who do wanted are aware of what those services are. i see adrian nodding her head in the back. thank you. president chiu: colleagues, any of the questions? supervisor mar? supervisor mar: i did want to ask if at&t would consider the request for a continuance, particularly since this is mano language, urging at least two -- this is mono language, notifying

them that there is no danger but also that this is necessary. i do not know that you have met the burden that it is necessary to me, and i am just wondering if you're open to a continuance as the appellants have asked? >> supervisor mar, we have already granted one month's continuance with the planning department process, and we believe this has been time enough for them to address concerns. the health issues were discussed at our community meetings, so this is something that at&t is not interested in, a continuance. president chiu: supervisor cohen? supervisor cohen: i just want to enter into the record that we continue this twice during the process with ms. tran, as well

as at&t trying to come together with the collective response. i think it is in the best interest of both parties, and it has been a little bit challenging. president chiu: colleagues, any further questions on this item, or should be closed -- should we close this item? cummings, these items are in the hand of the board. supervisor cohen? supervisor cohen: i want to thank all of those elected in their time, particularly those who have come to testify, and i think planning staff, and i would again like to implore the department to come up with a city-wide strategy on how we as a city family can begin to

better deal with the long term planning of our technology and our technology infrastructure. i understand the there has been report issued at the behest of president chiu in years prior, but as we continue to move on into the twenty-four's century and becoming a community dependent on technology, we need to think about ways to be smart about our planning, so we need to begin to dive into how we address technology. said thank you to all of the members of the public for coming to express your concern. as i mentioned earlier in my remarks, we have been a part of this process since the beginning and have supported two continuances in the process to allow for community meetings and for the project sponsor and the appellants to address their concerns. as many of you know, the board of supervisors is, like

supervisor chu indicated, pre- empted from considering potential health effects of cell phone antennas in our decision on whether or not to have the antennas, and i want to encourage the committee members to take their concerns to the federal level and to educate and to lobby our delegation in washington, d.c., as well as on the state level, because, unfortunately, things are out of our control here. our hands are tied. i think on our own behalf, it is difficult to be forced to take a position that is against my constituents' interests and what they would like, but i believe that at&t has adequately demonstrated that the need of the antennas is necessary and do not cause a some of the an aesthetic or other impacts. therefore, ask the colleagues' support the planning department's decision in this case, and i would like to motion

that we approve this item. no. 28, and table items 28 -- 29 and 30. president chiu: supervisor cohen has made a motion, seconded by supervisor farrell. if we could take a roll-call vote on that item. clerk calvillo: supervisor mirkarimi, supervisor wiener, supervisor avalos, supervisor campos, president chiu, supervise chu, supervisor elsbernd, supervisor kim,

supervisor mar. there is one no. president chiu: the cu passes. and with that, madam clerk, could you please read today's in memoriam. clerk calvillo: the in the morning is for one woman. president chiu: is there any more business? clerk calvillo: there is no more business. president chiu: ladies and gentlemen, we are adjourned. there is no more business.

there are so many ways that the internet provides real access to real people and resources and that's what we're try to go accomplish. >> i was interested in technology like video production. it's interesting, you get to create your own work and it reflects what you feel about saying things so it gives

perspective on issues. >> we work really hard to develop very in depth content, but if they don't have a venue, they do not have a way to show us, then this work is only staying here inside and nobody knows the brilliance and the amazing work that the students are doing. >> the term has changed over time from a very basic who has a computer and who doesn't have a computer to now who has access to the internet, especially high speed internet, as well as the skills and the knowledge to use those tools effectively. . >> the city is charged with coming up with digital inclusion. the department of telecommunications put together a 15 member san francisco tech connect task force. we want the digital inclusion program to make sure we address the needs of underserved vulnerable communities, not communities that are already

very tech savvy. we are here to provide a, b and c to the seniors. a stands for access. b stands for basic skills and c stands for content. and unless we have all three, the monolingual chinese seniors are never going to be able to use the computer or the internet. >> a lot of the barrier is knowledge. people don't know that these computers are available to them, plus they don't know what is useful. >> there are so many businesses in the bay area that are constantly retiring their computer equipment that's perfectly good for home use. computers and internet access are helping everybody in the community and people who don't have it can come to us to help with that. one of the biggest problems we see isn't whether people can get computers through programs like ours, but whether they can understand why they need a computer. really the biggest issue we are facing today is helping people understand the value of having a computer. >> immediately they would say

can i afford a computer? i don't speak any english. how do i use it. then they will start to learn how to do email or how to go back to chinese newspaper to read all the chinese newspaper. >> a lot of the barrier still is around lack of knowledge or confusion or intimidation and not having people in their peer network who use computers in their lives. >> the important thing i learned from caminos was to improve myself personally. when i first came to caminos, i didn't know anything about computers. the second thing is i have become -- i have made some great achievements as an individual in my family and in things of the world. >> it's a real issue of self-empowerment where new immigrant families are able to communicate with their families at home, able to receive news and information in their own home language, really become more and more connected with

the world as well as connected even inside their local communities. >> if we value the diversity of our city and we value our diverse neighborhoods in the city, we need to ensure that they remain economically viable. equiping them and equiping residents in those areas with jobs that will enable them to stay in san francisco is critical to that. >> the important thing that i see here at caminos is it helps the low income community, it helps the women who wouldn't have this opportunity otherwise. >> the workers with more education in san francisco are more likely to be able to working that knowledge sector. where they are going to need that familiarity with the internet, they are going to find value with it and use it and be productive with it every day. and half of the city's population that's in the other boat is disconnected from all that potential prosperity. >> we really need to promote content and provide applications that are really relevant to people's lives here.

so a lot of the inspiration, especially among the immigrant community, we see is communications with people from their home country but we as much want to use the internet as a tool for people to connect within the local san francisco community. >> i think it's our job as public educators to give them this access and give them this opportunity to see that their efforts are being appreciated beyond their immediate reach. >> you have to blend this idea of community network with computer equipment with training and with support. we can pull all that together, then we've got it. >> it's as much about social and economic justice -- in fact it's more about social and economic justice than just>> he.

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