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to the members here that you show better in the 10-16% range. could you address the assumptions out there and how certain you are about this. >> what this is is a reflection of what the rates are proposed to take effect on july 2012. they have made a conscious decision to move to flat that -- flat-rate generation pricing. in the past they charge different rates for small users and the customers. the california pcu has granted the authority to move to one price for everyone who uses the generation. these comparison compared to that. it is to moving parts. for customers, this would be the real impact of what they would really feel if you are a small user or have a very large home. if you have a very large home, of course you have a higher monthly bill, in your cost of
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having one & green would be higher. -- 100% green would be higher. every customer pays their fair share, and no more than their fair share. they pay exactly what their proportionate cost would be. how does this affect the average pocketbook and the average monthly budget for a family? to g>> one reason you are hearig different percentages is we are comparing this to the total bill. if you just took the generation line, it is a greater component of that. we were looking at the total impact on a customer that has regular usage, which is a mix. and they will have all the transmission distribution cost, but just the one line of
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electric generation. that is the difference. >> that it's a great distinction, and i think if you turn to slide 23, you will see that. if i could draw your eye all the way to the right side of the slide, an average household in san francisco gets a bill today for gas and electric service over to the far right of about $123 per month. the figures we have given you and the percentages we have given you look at the impact against the total bill. as mr. harrington mentioned, different people use different comparisons or calculations. whether you are comparing it to the total bill that you received, or just the electric portion, which is about half of it or just the gas portion, which is the other half, you will get slightly different percentages. families have to pay these bills every month. we understand that. we have also compared how
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participating in this program, that would compare to $100-month cellphone and data and text plan. that would compare to an average bill for water and sewer at $76 or to an average monthly garbage collection of $27. what we as shown in this chart is the average of all of the small users and conservationists and a larger users with larger homes. the average would be about $20. for very large users it would be more because they use more electricity. that is the majority of the financial slides. i have attached one final slide, which is how the average bill looks and how it would change under clean power san francisco.
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the bill is going to have the same number of lines, except for one. there will be one related to clean power san francisco. they would also be able to call us and talk to our representatives to know they are getting 100% green product for $7 per month, and we would also answer any of their questions as well. we are happy to answer any question. president chiu: the impacts on this on the general fund is the $50 million that was discussed by the previous -- >> there are two options. one option we have assumed when presenting to our commission is the san francisco public utilities commission fund could have the available fund balances
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in order to fund the startup cost. in this case the startup costs are to put money into a reserve, which we hope and project will not need to be spent, but you have to put them into research. right now that is the assumption. if the general fund a word to fund those reserves, we would not be opposed to that, but that is not our working assumption. supervisor campos: thank you. >> i just wanted to make one other point about the risk to the city and make sure we understand that part of the discussion also. we're putting 15 million aside, and that money would only be used if the program was just not successful. and if the market changed so that if we go out and help show you are buying this much power from us, and the market rates
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have increased, shell can determine to sell it. the cost does nothing, except the administrative cost of doing that. this only happens if the market is such that we have lowered the price of renewals, which seems highly unlikely. what happens is if we go out there and buy it at a certain rate and they cannot sell it because the market has changed, then we owe the difference between what the market is and what it would be. most probably in the type of renewable cost would be going up, and they can turn around and resell it. we believe it is highly unlikely we will use the 15 million. the more uncapped liability discussion, that would really be where the city would make a policy decision -- decision to close a successful program and time it for when the market was wrong.
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you would have to wait until the market was going against you and the policy decision to incur any kind of liability like that. we believe it is unlikely that power rates will go down in california. if something were to happen, shell would turn around and sell it to someone else and we would not have the liability we're talking about. it is really an insurance policy that we hope will never be used. thank you. supervisor campos: thank you. i do not know if lafco staff wants to add anything. unless there are questions, why don't we open it up to public comment? president chiu: i have a speaking engagement that i am happy that now lay for, but my staff is watching this. supervisor campos: given the
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complexities of the issue in the first time many of the board are hearing about this, i hope to have a follow-up discussion. i think it is important for us to do a lot of the work before the matter goes to the full board at some point in the future, so this is just the beginning of this discussion. president chiu: i think that is entirely appropriate. it is complicated and a lot of questions. >> mr. harrington, believe it or not, i am drinking good water. i never thought i could feel so water-free. flying away on a wing and a prayer, who could it be? you know it is you, puc. believe it or not, i want to all
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sothanso thank hetch hetchy. flying away on a wing and a prayer, who could it be? yes, it is you, puc. this is almost too good to be true. yes, puc. want to thank president chiu, and supervisors, you. believe it or not, i am walking on air and water. i never thought i could feel so water and keeping agreed free. flying away on a wing and a prayer. want to thank you puc. supervisor campos: think you,
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mr. paulson. next speaker. -- thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i am with the bread line defense project -- bright line defense project. the reason for excitement that advocates have for this program is job creation. that means prevailing wage jobs, local resident hiring. making sure we can put local people to work by having in-city renewable generation is extremely important. the document i just passed out is greeted by the local clean energy alliance that details of the jobs can be created. roughly 1000 direct jobs would come from installation of energy-sufficient jobs -- energy-eat fish and jobs and also 1000 indirect jobs,
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meaning employment by suppliers. again, i wanted to emphasize support for holistic clean power program, and we look forward to future discussions. supervisor campos: i want to think the opportunity to thank all of advocates that have been working on this for so many years, for their commitment and persistence, and as hait has bea long time, and we continue to look forward to work with you. >> eric brooks representing san francisco green party and the local grassroots organization. our city, which has 4000 supporters in san francisco, most of whom vote. i want to start out with a really positive sign that we're here with you after four years. we passed an ordinance in 2007, and now for the first time in
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four years the san francisco public utilities commission, local wait-and-see information commission and community advocates are together, before you moving forward with this program. sfpuc needs to be thanked for getting us there, and especially general managing -- general manager harrington who did the heavy lifting to get is on the same page where we could get to this hearing date. that is the big pot appeared in another positive is really tell the kickstart plan. they have given us a way to start this thing in motion. what we need now is to get back to the original vision that started in 1999 when the supervisor and local power first introduced a resolution in san francisco for community choice
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aggregation asking the state of california to institute it. the reason we started this program is not to just give consumers a choice of where they purchase electricity from and what kind of electricity, the reason we started the program was because global warming was clearly looming, and the purpose of the program and the purpose ever since and advocates have never wavered from this, is to do a huge buildup of hundreds of megawatts of renewable and efficiency capacity in the first five years of the program, such that likely by the end of the decade we get to 51% clean electricity in san francisco that is localize clean electricity, that comes from here in the city. that is absolutely vital. when i was walking to city hall today to come to the hearing, i passed by the new building. it is a model, lead platinum,
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renewable energy, efficiency, and that is the model we need to adopt for this whole program, and to do that we need to have a plan for the build out done before we begin with the purchasing contract with shell. that means we're looking at more like signing the contract around earth day, and not next month or the month after that. i would add as i passed by the new building, the main thing i noticed were a lot of local workers and workers in hard hats. that is what this is about, putting people to work to build a green new deal and sentences go. supervisor campos: thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i am one of the many residents that will benefit from this program. there has been such a long, successful history in supplying
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essential public services. i commend their work to date, and look forward to being able to have 100% clean energy and the local jobs. thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. jeremiah dean, san francisco bay chapter club. i would like to thank you for having this meeting today, and thank everyone for the hard work they have put into it over the years. i have only been involved with this for approximately a year, but everyone else has been doing this for years and years. i am going to talk today, because i think we need to really make sure we offer a program to all san francisco customers that is very attractive price-wise. the price point has to be low, competitive with pg&e, because that will be a way we can really
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attract the highest amount of customers into this program. just for sake of comparison, i know that clean power sf is a much larger program than green energy, but in many ways the onlycc cca up and running. i would like to compare the rates they have seen in the program. morin offers a light green and deep green option. when you -- you do not opt in to the program. when your roll in, you are in the light green program. you have the ability to bump up to the deep green option. that would be 100% renewable energy with 5-$10 approximately more for the customer energy bill. they believed that 20% of their customers would opt in to the
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program, and they have only seen five% of the customers in the deep green. in san francisco with seen there's only one option, 100%. it may be a good idea to think about having different options for customers, something that is more competitive with pg&e. go back to the meet or beat 2007 ordinance. that would be very important. the opt out rate. they thought they would have a 20% rate. it has been 19.6. san francisco is thinking there will be between 40-70% in the initial public offering to the 229 customers. about is -- once the folks are
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on it will be difficult to get them back once prices are competitive. that is why we believe the information gleaned from the in depth analysis of local bill that will help really seek renewal board resources and prices drop. supervisor campos: next speaker. >> my name is al wind row inero. i wanted to echo what everyone has said about appreciation to the people that and and all for so long. what i would like to address here is we think that the program as outlined in the terms and she, that we could do better. we could do better that -- in that term sheet. in terms of the things people
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spoke to about having a program that really builds local renewable power in town sooner and quicker, that provides the jobs that we need sooner and quicker, that provides a local renewable power and reduction in greenhouse gases quicker, and one in which we can actually hold on to ratepayers and not have them off out, because we find better price points. i think that depends on having somewhat of a longer-term plan than phase one, which is what is advertised in the term sheets. all of these things and the ability to do better than what we've been talking about are based on a study that is about to take place. it is a detailed study for the potential for energy efficiency
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and new development in town. it will project a deployment plan for local renewable resources. our sense is what can be learned from that city -- study could have a significant impact on bettering the plan that has been put forth for that is embodied in the term sheet. what we're calling for is to try to give that study some time to inform the process as we are moving ahead. we feel it could have a big impact on the terms of the contract, and that would advance much quicker timetable, the types of things we have been talking about as mutual goals, both on the part of the sfpcu and advocate community. thank you very much. i think we could go into more discussion about these details and possible trade-offs and possible ways of addressing them. thank you very much. supervisor campos: any other
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member of the public that would like to comment on that. seeing none, public comment is closed. i have a follow-up question for whoever. can you say a little bit about where we are with the build out. it is important for us to make sure the bill that is moving forward quickly on parallel tracks. i am wondering if you could give us an update on where things are right now. >> we have completed all contract negotiations. there was table work to be done, and that has been done as far as i know. i think we're still signing a few things, but they have basically been issued. that contractor ration is projected to be 11 months. supervisor campos: thank you.
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like i said at the beginning, this is the beginning of this discussion, and i think it is important for us to have a meaningful opportunity to ask all the right questions, so there will be a follow-up discussion, and if there are specific suggestions as to when that can take place, we're happy to hear from members of the committee on that, and there are still a couple of issues that need to be addressed before the contract actually comes before the board. we need to have a discussion and decision around the scope of the program. the issues around the build out, we need to make sure that the progress around the build out continues. i am also happy to report that the sfpuc is working with the
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public california commission to make sure that on their end that we are able to influence the decision making that is taking place in a way that helps this program move forward, and i think that a lot of work has gone into this and will continue to go into this, not only on the part of puc, but also lafco. i want to acknowledge the work of the members of the public utilities commission, because many meetings have been had on this issue. with that, can we have a motion to continue this to the call of the chair? great. madam clerk, any other items before the committee? >> there are no further items. >supervisor campos: thank you very muc. h. meeting adjourned.
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wonderful. >> by the power vested in me, i declare you spouses for life. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> to actually be able to get married and be a part of this time in history and time in our history is amazing. >> this is a momentous occasion for us to be able to actually have this opportunity to have equal rights. >> we have been together for 14 years. everyone is so welcoming. it's been all set up and people have guided us from step to step. it's been easy. there was live music. people are so friendly and excited. so excited for us. >> it's really great. >> yeah. >> and salvador is party a here to known as party a. >> on the out it looks pretty simple. you come in, you made your appointment. you pay. you go here for your license.
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you got there to get married. you go there if you want to purchase a certified copy. behind the scenes, there was just this monumental just mountain of work, the details into everything that we had to do and we quickly realized that we were not ready to issue the numbers of licenses that people are anticipating that we would need to issue. we definitely did not want people waiting in long lines. this is somebody's wedding. you want to be able to plan and invite your family and friends. know what time you are able to get your marriage license, know what time you're going to have your ceremony. >> thanks for volunteering. >> we got city volunteers, we got members of the public volunteering. we had our regular volunteers
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volunteering. we had such an overwhelming response from city employees, from the members of the general public that we had way more volunteers than we could ever have hoped for. we had to come up with a training program. i mean, there are different functions of this whole operation. you were either, you know a check-in person. you were a greeter. you were part of the license issuing unit. you were deputy marriage commissioner, or you were on the recording side. each one of those functions required a different set of skills, a different oath of office if they needed to be sworn in as a deputy county clerk to issue marriage licenses or as a deputy county recorder if they were going to register the marriage licenses or the deputy marriage commissioner if they were going to be performing ceremonies. >> donna, place the ring on her ring finger. >> the marriage commissioner training was only about a half hour. it was very simple. very well run, very smooth and
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then we were all sworn in. >> they said we would get our scheduled sunday night and so 7:00, 8:00, 10:00, you know, i got it at 11:00. this person who was orchestrating all of the shifts and the volunteers and who does what, you know, said from her office sunday night at 11:00. they are just really helping each other. it's a wonderful atmosphere in that way. >> have you filled out an application? >> not yet. you want to do that. >> take this right over there. >> all right. >> take it tout counter when you're done. >> very good. >> congratulations, you guys. >> for those volunteers, what a gift for them as well as us that they would take up their time and contribute that time, but also that they would in return receive so much more back because they're part of the narrative of someone else's love and expression of love in life. >> this isn't anything that we had budgeted for, so it was
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basically we asked our i.t. director to do the best you can, you know, belling, borrow, steal if you have to and get us what you need to do this. and he knew what the mission was. he knew what our goal was. and, you know, with our i.t. grids and our software vender, they really came together and pulled it together for us. it made it possible for us to be able to serve as many couples as we have been. >> so once you're ready, you and your husband to be or wife need to be need to check in here and check in again, ok. are you also going to get married today? >> yeah. >> let's process you one by one. do your license in, exit and re-enter again check in at that desk. >> our wedding is at 3:00. >> as long as we get you in today. >> we're getting married at 2:30. >> don't worry about the time line. we're greeting people at the doorway and eitherdi
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