>> good morning, welcome to the regular meeting of the budget and finance committee. my name is carmen chu, chair of the committee to i am joined by supervisor mirkarimi and supervisor kim. our clerk today as mr. victor young. >> please turn off all cell phones. if you wish to speak, please fill out a speaker card and turn them in to me. if you present documents, provide a copy to the clerk for inclusion into the file of items acted upon today will appear on the board of supervisors agenda on december 6, 2011, unless otherwise stated. supervisor chu: thank you very much. i want to acknowledge sfgtv, jennifer and charles the item number one. >> ordinance approving the second amendment to the contract between the city and county of san francisco and the united states through the department of energy western area power administration for the delivery

of low-cost power and scheduling coordinator services to treasure island and yerba buena island. supervisor chu: thank you. this came before us at our last budget and finance committee. we amended the item at the time to increase the dollar amount that was listed on the legislation. because of that, we had to continue the item. i know that sam morani with the puc is here could you have additional comments? >> good morning. no, i do not. supervisor chu: thank you. to the budget analyst, anything else that you would add? >> madam chair, members, we recommend that you approve this legislation. supervisor chu: thank you. let's open this up for public comment. there inmate -- do any members of the public wish to speak on item number one? >> good morning, budget and finance. ♪ budget around the budget

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in the good old city fashioned way ♪ supervisor chu: thank you. are there other members of the public who wish to speak on item number one? seeing none, item one -- public comment is closed. can we send this forward with recommendations? ok, we will do that without objection to thank you. item number two, please. >> item number two, resolution authorizing the release with 6th street baldwin housel, llc, approximately 1,932 rentable square feet of ground space located at 72 6th street for the san francisco public -- police department. supervisor chu: thank you. first, i wanted knowledge the public defender -- public defender who is here. begin. court today, i am is seeking approval for our lease agreement between the city and 6th street

baldwin house, llc, for the property on, approximately 1,932 square feet, and will be used to accommodate the san francisco police department said state with in the south of market project area. i have a member of the redevelopment agency and a member of the police department here. the initial term is for three years, with an estimate the commencement date of june 2012. rent starts at $2,898 per month. it would be subject to a yearly cpi adjustment of no less than 1.5% in no more than 3%. there are three two-year options. questions? supervisor chu: can use it to the $1.50 per square foot rate and how competitive that is, given the fact that the property owner will also be receiving a half a million dollar grant to renovate the space? >> we have been looking at

different properties in the area. it ranges between $1.25 and up to $2.30 with in the south of market properties in the civic center area, or that type of building. supervisor chu: the question i am wanted to ask is, is it a good rate, given the fact that the city, through the redevelopment agency, is proposing to provide a $500,000 grant? for some of the other grants that have been given in that redevelopment area, understand that it has been required that the property owners are businesses also provide a matching amount to renovate the existing space. so we are leveraging some of their private dollars with our redevelopment dollars. in this situation, there's no additional money that we are requesting the property owners to provide a i am wondering how competitive that rate is, given that we're giving a half a million dollar grant their.

>> good morning. yes, typically when we require and matching requirement, it is provided by the business that is moving in, not by the property owner. in this case, the business is not the tenant. the police to permit is not providing any funds. the redevelopment agency is paying the entire amount. i think that the rate is very low compared to other similar spaces in the project area. she mentioned that some spaces are little bit lower, maybe down to $1.25, but most of these bases we have worked on our dollar sign2 a square foot and over. supervisor chu: ok, to market of the next question is geared toward the police department. >> good morning. i am richard from the police department. supervisor chu: in terms of staffing and the intention of

the police department with the new substation, i know that with the previous work that was done with our consulting, we talked about, even though we did not implement it, was a reduction of the number of stations that we had to get more people out on the street, as opposed to treating more fixed staffing inside building. does this go in the opposite direction of that? what is the plan for staffing? >> actually, to the contrary, this storefront office the opportunity to keep the officers out on the beach. they can use this application to go in and do their reports to interview folks. in deployment situations, we can use it for a downer. the intention is not to staff it 24/7 like a station. the principal hours are between about 8:00 a.m. and midnight. the real efficiency of this is the officers will not be going back to southern station to complete their incident reports. those are the officers

participated in the midmarket street revitalization area and 6th street currently. if you think southern station is going for the south in mission bay in 2014, putting a further away from the unit block and 6th street. we're accomplishing this with a police command post that has to be brought out every day by an officer, deployed there, and we bring it back in the evening, a van. we have been doing that for months. the intention is to treat this as more of a storefront sort of post that is there to help us keep the officers on the street more and not to staff it as a station. supervisor chu: in terms of the staffing, you would be able to accomplish the staffing that you expect the new substation with the existing staff of the southern station? >> correct. officers would be using the

storefront at times when they would either be going back to southern station for some business or administrative part of their duties, or to conduct an interview with someone. say, maybe there would be doing it in an sro lobby or something for that, they could use the storefront for that. it is not come -- contemplated to staff these storefront itself. supervisor chu: ok, thank you. let's go to the budget analyst report. >> madam chair, members, we point out, on page four of our report, that the total estimated cost of the proposed new lease, including the one-time cost to renovate the space, for the sfpd substation is up to $853,293, including the money from the

redevelopment agency funds for renovation and up to $353,293 for rent based on an annual 3% cpi increase, and that would be over the potential nine-year lease term if the options are exercised. given that the proposed resolution to approve a new lease for the new police substation would be funded with a general fund revenues, we consider approval to this resolution and a policy decision for the board. supervisor chu: thank you. let's open up public comment. are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item? >> hi, i am ellen, and i work on central market street as part of the partnership. i deal with helping businesses come in and also work on the ground with the businesses that have been there for a very long time. that is one of the biggest

things we hear, they want more police presence. i highly encourage you to get down there on 6th street, because it will not only help the overall safety of the area, but it will help the residents who have lived there for a long time in the businesses that really need that support from the city. that is my comment. thank you. supervisor chu: thank you. are there other members of the public who wish to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor kim? supervisor kim: thank you. thank you for all the work that has gone into this. we have been working on this for at least two years. many of these small businesses that have come to 6th street came with the expectation that there would be a substation and increased patrol. i have a couple of logistical questions could you mentioned the hours and such. currently, i know we have a van out there in the interim,

because many of the residence and small-business owners felt that the promise had been made a long time ago. i am wondering, currently, how many officers does that demand at any given time? i know that there are ships. >> the van is put up their -- one, it is iconic. it has our patches on it. what it officers for the officers deployed to the mid market street and 6th street is for them to use it like the store for it would be used. so it is not staffed. they watch it from a distance. they do their reports. there are computers in there. there is traditional police equipment in there for administrative stuff. that is the purpose of that emergence have asked that it be there sort of to make our presence much more well known. supervisor kim: i very much

appreciative its presence there. how many officers have come out of this van? >> it would be b a wouldeat officer or two that might go in there to work on a report. it could hold five or six officers inside in close quarters, but i have never seen more than two in their working on the report. supervisor kim: i did not mean inside the van. how many officers to we have patrol in that area? >> i would prefer to have that discussion offline in terms of the number two sometimes a single cop, consent a message that the police are everywhere, when, in fact, we are not. i would rather not go into the exact number of officers deployed. but there are officers deployed up there every single day. supervisor kim: so at least one? >> yes, many more than one.

i just did not want to go to the exact number. supervisor kim: you mentioned the hours were a.m. to midnight. >> that is more, if i were to say when that space would be a utility to us, it is during those hours when we deploy officers on foot up there, and those are sort of the range of times that you could expect to see some officers of there. maybe midnight is a little on the late end, but i could see some use of it than that of the officers are in cars in the evening, by and large, handling more areas than the first couple blocks of 6th street. >> when you say it will go to midnight, it is more than offices will have keys so they can access -- access it for records are questioning? >> absolutely. i do not know so much questioning in the sense of questioning suspects. i do not see that as a place for suspects. that would have to be a trip to

the station. but for victims to come in to a private space, to arrange to meet someone there for an interview. i could see inspectors making a point in meeting someone there and using that facility to conduct an interview. supervisor kim: will there be any set time that the community will know that the substation is open, that they could go in to make complaints? >> no, not at this point. then we end up in a much more complicated stepping situation in terms of -- are we going to staff it for particular hours? and then we start talking about fte's and what it takes to do that. i asked the sergeant who has been working with the architect on the redevelopment to reach out and make sure that the folks are considering that there is a fault line incorporated into the front of this facility, not unlike you see a fire stations, where a neighbor runs to the fire station and the crew is gone, there is aphonic there.

i think that item has to be considered. however, we do not see staffing this likely would staff a station. supervisor kim: ok, so there are not going to be any hours that the committee will know to be able to go to the substation. it is more like a landing pad for officers that are on patrol in the area? >> the point of the storefront is to keep the officers of in that area and not having them come back to the station to fill out forms and administrative tasks. and to meet folks there. but not to staff its bid of the staffing you would need to cover a particular shift with a certain number of officers it gets into a calculation that i do not think that we would land on. supervisor kim: is there any plans -- i know there will also