>> good morning, welcome to the regular meeting of the budget and finance committee. my name is carmen chu, chair of the committee to i am joined by supervisor mirkarimi and supervisor kim. our clerk today as mr. victor young. >> please turn off all cell phones. if you wish to speak, please fill out a speaker card and turn them in to me. if you present documents, provide a copy to the clerk for inclusion into the file of items acted upon today will appear on the board of supervisors agenda on december 6, 2011, unless otherwise stated. supervisor chu: thank you very much. i want to acknowledge sfgtv, jennifer and charles the item number one. >> ordinance approving the second amendment to the contract between the city and county of san francisco and the united states through the department of energy western area power administration for the delivery of low-cost power and scheduling

coordinator services to treasure island and yerba buena island. supervisor chu: thank you. this came before us at our last budget and finance committee. we amended the item at the time to increase the dollar amount that was listed on the legislation. because of that, we had to continue the item. i know that sam morani with the puc is here could you have additional comments? >> good morning. no, i do not. supervisor chu: thank you. to the budget analyst, anything else that you would add? >> madam chair, members, we recommend that you approve this legislation. supervisor chu: thank you. let's open this up for public comment. there inmate -- do any members of the public wish to speak on item number one? >> good morning, budget and finance. ♪ budget around the budget

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in the good old city fashioned way ♪ supervisor chu: thank you. are there other members of the public who wish to speak on item number one? seeing none, item one -- public comment is closed. can we send this forward with recommendations? ok, we will do that without objection to thank you. item number two, please. >> item number two, resolution authorizing the release with 6th street baldwin housel, llc, approximately 1,932 rentable square feet of ground space located at 72 6th street for the san francisco public -- police department. supervisor chu: thank you. first, i wanted knowledge the public defender -- public defender who is here. begin. court today, i am is seeking approval for our lease agreement between the city and 6th street

baldwin house, llc, for the property on, approximately 1,932 square feet, and will be used to accommodate the san francisco police department said state with in the south of market project area. i have a member of the redevelopment agency and a member of the police department here. the initial term is for three years, with an estimate the commencement date of june 2012. rent starts at $2,898 per month. it would be subject to a yearly cpi adjustment of no less than 1.5% in no more than 3%. there are three two-year options. questions? supervisor chu: can use it to the $1.50 per square foot rate and how competitive that is, given the fact that the property owner will also be receiving a half a million dollar grant to renovate the space? >> we have been looking at

different properties in the area. it ranges between $1.25 and up to $2.30 with in the south of market properties in the civic center area, or that type of building. supervisor chu: the question i am wanted to ask is, is it a good rate, given the fact that the city, through the redevelopment agency, is proposing to provide a $500,000 grant? for some of the other grants that have been given in that redevelopment area, understand that it has been required that the property owners are businesses also provide a matching amount to renovate the existing space. so we are leveraging some of their private dollars with our redevelopment dollars. in this situation, there's no additional money that we are requesting the property owners to provide a i am wondering how competitive that rate is, given that we're giving a half a million dollar grant their.

>> good morning. yes, typically when we require and matching requirement, it is provided by the business that is moving in, not by the property owner. in this case, the business is not the tenant. the police to permit is not providing any funds. the redevelopment agency is paying the entire amount. i think that the rate is very low compared to other similar spaces in the project area. she mentioned that some spaces are little bit lower, maybe down to $1.25, but most of these bases we have worked on our dollar sign2 a square foot and over. supervisor chu: ok, to market of the next question is geared toward the police department. >> good morning. i am richard from the police department. supervisor chu: in terms of staffing and the intention of

the police department with the new substation, i know that with the previous work that was done with our consulting, we talked about, even though we did not implement it, was a reduction of the number of stations that we had to get more people out on the street, as opposed to treating more fixed staffing inside building. does this go in the opposite direction of that? what is the plan for staffing? >> actually, to the contrary, this storefront office the opportunity to keep the officers out on the beach. they can use this application to go in and do their reports to interview folks. in deployment situations, we can use it for a downer. the intention is not to staff it 24/7 like a station. the principal hours are between about 8:00 a.m. and midnight. the real efficiency of this is the officers will not be going back to southern station to complete their incident reports. those are the officers

participated in the midmarket street revitalization area and 6th street currently. if you think southern station is going for the south in mission bay in 2014, putting a further away from the unit block and 6th street. we're accomplishing this with a police command post that has to be brought out every day by an officer, deployed there, and we bring it back in the evening, a van. we have been doing that for months. the intention is to treat this as more of a storefront sort of post that is there to help us keep the officers on the street more and not to staff it as a station. supervisor chu: in terms of the staffing, you would be able to accomplish the staffing that you expect the new substation with the existing staff of the southern station? >> correct. officers would be using the

storefront at times when they would either be going back to southern station for some business or administrative part of their duties, or to conduct an interview with someone. say, maybe there would be doing it in an sro lobby or something for that, they could use the storefront for that. it is not come -- contemplated to staff these storefront itself. supervisor chu: ok, thank you. let's go to the budget analyst report. >> madam chair, members, we point out, on page four of our report, that the total estimated cost of the proposed new lease, including the one-time cost to renovate the space, for the sfpd substation is up to $853,293, including the money from the redevelopment agency funds for

renovation and up to $353,293 for rent based on an annual 3% cpi increase, and that would be over the potential nine-year lease term if the options are exercised. given that the proposed resolution to approve a new lease for the new police substation would be funded with a general fund revenues, we consider approval to this resolution and a policy decision for the board. supervisor chu: thank you. let's open up public comment. are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item? >> hi, i am ellen, and i work on central market street as part of the partnership. i deal with helping businesses come in and also work on the ground with the businesses that have been there for a very long time. that is one of the biggest

things we hear, they want more police presence. i highly encourage you to get down there on 6th street, because it will not only help the overall safety of the area, but it will help the residents who have lived there for a long time in the businesses that really need that support from the city. that is my comment. thank you. supervisor chu: thank you. are there other members of the public who wish to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor kim? supervisor kim: thank you. thank you for all the work that has gone into this. we have been working on this for at least two years. many of these small businesses that have come to 6th street came with the expectation that there would be a substation and increased patrol. i have a couple of logistical questions could you mentioned the hours and such. currently, i know we have a van out there in the interim,

because many of the residence and small-business owners felt that the promise had been made a long time ago. i am wondering, currently, how many officers does that demand at any given time? i know that there are ships. >> the van is put up their -- one, it is iconic. it has our patches on it. what it officers for the officers deployed to the mid market street and 6th street is for them to use it like the store for it would be used. so it is not staffed. they watch it from a distance. they do their reports. there are computers in there. there is traditional police equipment in there for administrative stuff. that is the purpose of that emergence have asked that it be there sort of to make our presence much more well known. supervisor kim: i very much

appreciative its presence there. how many officers have come out of this van? >> it would be b a wouldeat officer or two that might go in there to work on a report. it could hold five or six officers inside in close quarters, but i have never seen more than two in their working on the report. supervisor kim: i did not mean inside the van. how many officers to we have patrol in that area? >> i would prefer to have that discussion offline in terms of the number two sometimes a single cop, consent a message that the police are everywhere, when, in fact, we are not. i would rather not go into the exact number of officers deployed. but there are officers deployed up there every single day. supervisor kim: so at least one? >> yes, many more than one.

i just did not want to go to the exact number. supervisor kim: you mentioned the hours were a.m. to midnight. >> that is more, if i were to say when that space would be a utility to us, it is during those hours when we deploy officers on foot up there, and those are sort of the range of times that you could expect to see some officers of there. maybe midnight is a little on the late end, but i could see some use of it than that of the officers are in cars in the evening, by and large, handling more areas than the first couple blocks of 6th street. >> when you say it will go to midnight, it is more than offices will have keys so they can access -- access it for records are questioning? >> absolutely. i do not know so much questioning in the sense of questioning suspects. i do not see that as a place for suspects. that would have to be a trip to

the station. but for victims to come in to a private space, to arrange to meet someone there for an interview. i could see inspectors making a point in meeting someone there and using that facility to conduct an interview. supervisor kim: will there be any set time that the community will know that the substation is open, that they could go in to make complaints? >> no, not at this point. then we end up in a much more complicated stepping situation in terms of -- are we going to staff it for particular hours? and then we start talking about fte's and what it takes to do that. i asked the sergeant who has been working with the architect on the redevelopment to reach out and make sure that the folks are considering that there is a fault line incorporated into the front of this facility, not unlike you see a fire stations, where a neighbor runs to the fire station and the crew is gone, there is aphonic there.

i think that item has to be considered. however, we do not see staffing this likely would staff a station. supervisor kim: ok, so there are not going to be any hours that the committee will know to be able to go to the substation. it is more like a landing pad for officers that are on patrol in the area? >> the point of the storefront is to keep the officers of in that area and not having them come back to the station to fill out forms and administrative tasks. and to meet folks there. but not to staff its bid of the staffing you would need to cover a particular shift with a certain number of officers it gets into a calculation that i do not think that we would land on. supervisor kim: is there any plans -- i know there will also be committed to rooms in it

there. is there anybody to partnerships that we can make with community- based organizations or civilians who could help staff the? >> absolutely. i think that a facility like this integrates the police department even more into the community. currently, the captain of southern station is holding community meetings in the sro's. there is no reason why this location cannot fit into all the community policing efforts that we're utilizing of their -- up there and become an important part of that. i think it gives the city, the government, and the police department, in particular, a location in the community. that alone, the mere physical presence there of the building, is good. supervisor kim: thank you, captain. supervisor chu: thank you. i want to welcome supervisor campos, who has joined our

committee. i have a final question for the redevelopment agency. there was conversation about the half a million dollar grant that would be provided. the question about where that money is coming from, given the tenuous state that redevelopment agency generally is in at the moment. is this money that we already allocated and available? is that something or an action that has taken place? >> the money has already been approved by the board and the redevelopment commission in the agency's current-year budget. so the money is available. because of the suspension in redeveloper activities, we're not allowed to enter into any contracts at the moment. but we're hopeful that that situation will be resolved as early as january, at which point we will start the process of allocating that money to the construction of the station. supervisor chu: i guess the question for us overall is, depending on what the resolution is, we do not have a clear sense of what that will be in january.

we are dependent on that half a million dollars to do the renovation work. it that were the case but the redeveloper the agency was not able to enter into a contract to provide that grant, what would be another option? >> the money has already been allocated. it is already in our budget. that $500,000 would go back to the city if the redevelopment agency was eliminated, for exam, as part of a supreme court decision. that money would potentially be available in another form. but it really depends on what the supreme court decides. there are a lot of ever ways that that case can be resolved. obviously, us during the project, that would depend on the court actually upholding the two state laws in allowing the redevelopment agency to continue. if that did not happen, we would have to look at the situation and figure out what to do next. supervisor chu: ok, thank you.

colleagues, any other questions? seeing none, -- supervisor mar britney. supervisor mirkarimi: not a question. i just want to support supervisor kim's, i think, gestures and line of questioning with regard to sfpd about the need for really capitalizing on the idea of community policing so that is a two-way street and more engaging for the committee to be able to access this outpost, this satellite. i think that is where you were going. i think this is an evolves idea that the midmarket area merits, but the idea of trying to get greater engagement between public and sfpd ad community, those who reside and do business there, is something i think should be more forward. i am hoping that this strategy is more inviting of that.

i think that this is a good start, but it looks like it could use some further development. supervisor chu: thank you, supervisor. if there are no of up -- no other comments, the item is before us. ok, we have got a motion to send the item forward with recommendations. >supervisor mirkarimi: so moved. supervisor chu: we have a second. i would like the groups to work together to let us know what the secondary options if the $500,000 cannot actually be approved. that is still unknown, and that this project is dependent on that money to renovate the space, i would be concerned if we had to find that funding elsewhere, given that we have so little money in capital dollars. colleagues, we have the motion and a second. we can do that without objection. ok, item number four. >> item four, -- item number

three? item three, resolution authorizing the sheriff's department to retroactively apply for, accept, and accept and expend 249,006 in its $62 in funds from the office of justice programs through the justice and mental health collaboration program. >> good morning. we are requesting approval to accept and expend a ground of $249,662 two 01 the telehealth coordinator for our veterans that are incarcerated for two years. this provided a dedicated coordinator, which we have not had in the past. supervisor chu: ok, can you explain, is there going to be an additional person funded through the grant? a new position? >> yes, but this is through walden house the with our

community based partner. so it is not an fte to the city. it is a contract with walden house. they provide psychiatric services in the jail. they are familiar with our population. this would allow them to dedicate one person to the population. supervisor chu: ok. this does not have a budget analyst report with it. if there no additional questions, let's open it up for public comment. are there members of the public who wish to speak on item number three? ♪ >> believe it or not i would like to see the money you see and i would like it all to come to this item please money flying away on a wing and a prayer who could it be for? me it is for the puc be willed -- believe it or not

i would like money to be free i would like to fly to this item, can you not see? flying away on a wing and a prayer who could it be for? me it is for the puc ♪ supervisor chu: thank you. are there other members of the kennedy who would like to speak on item number three? >> good morning. my name is linda evans, and i work with legal services for presence with children. i would like to address this need for mental health counselor inside the sheriff's department. we feel very, very strongly -- were closely connected with the veterans program in the jail. one of our members, the supervisor of that program, and personal conversations, she has

commented to me many times on the need for increased mental health treatment for the veterans in her program. so i really support the expenditure of this money and the allocation of this money for the counseling that veterans need so desperately, but when they're inside the jail and then hopefully they will also receive services in terms of reentry and being able to reintegrate back into the community without the burden of the mental health issues that they may have developed previous to being in jail, for post- traumatic stress syndrome, and certainly inside the jail, which is a stressful situation as well. we definitely support the allocation of this money for a mental health counselor for the veterans in the jail. thank you. supervisor chu: thank you. are there other members of the public who wish to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor mirkarimi: i want to underscore how important the cover program is and the need to deal with the reality that is escalating in the u.s., in

particular, california, that we're finding veterans, especially out of iraq and afghanistan, implicated in the criminal-justice system or now sort of falling off the track and then are becoming offenders. we're noticing the trend on this. nationally, to the degree where they're now part of the realignment population, and they're part of the population that is challenging many counties throughout the state of california because of programs like this, like cover, and the need for better in this house rehabilitation and post-custody release reentry is something we really need to step up our game on. cover is a program provided by the city and county and has not been nationally recognized. this is something that is very small but will go a very long way. supervisor chu: thank you, supervisor. we have held public comment and closed public comment. the item is before us. i have a motion to send forward with a recommendation. and a second.