>> i am almost afraid to say, but the matter is submitted. >> comments, commissioners? >> we worked our way through the hyperbole, you would think that there would be a basis for some kind of settlement. it is difficult for me to think of a small deck and a stair surcharge against a concrete wall requiring case ions. since i talked this particular role -- particular structural engineer how to do his framing,

i am sure he knows better than me now. it does not strike me as fact pertinent as to what is before us. there is no doubt that a bank is supposed to removal of materials on somebody else's property and you do not have authorization to access it, the permit is sort of void and mute. -- moot. i believe the attorney alluded to it, but it was not stated extensively that the previous agreement still applied. for such a limited scope of work, i would think that there

has got to be a solution. we would ask the building department to ask what it is that we are trying to remove. removal of a simple form does not usually required drawings. the appellant and the permit holder can have ongoing discussions. i am almost that a point where i could make a decision tonight. let's waid and see if we can get a resolution to this. >> i agree with that. let's get a photograph to see what is really going on there. >> unfortunately, the schedule

is not good for our number of hearings. the next hearing is either january 11 or the 18th. >> what do you mean? >> we have nine and 13 cases. >> we could squeeze it in on december 7. four of the nine are related. >> may be on the continuance. i would like a little additional time to engage in negotiations. i know this has gone on for a long time. we really have not had significant discussions. given the thanksgiving holiday is a little bit too soon, i would ask that it would be in january sometime. >> either one is fine for us. >> mr. rose. >> just checking my calendar

now. the 11th, i appeared b to beooked, the 18th would be fine. >> you do not feel prejudiced about waiting until then? >> i would ask the building department to hold off on the enforcement until we rezone this. >> that's fine. >> any other commissioner comments? no? call the roll, please. >> other than the dbi, to submit something in the site visit, do you want the parties to submit something? >> i want them to submit a settlement agreement. [applause]

-- [laughter] >> that is to report on the photographs. not with the briefing. >> i am sure thatoral by all parties would be fined. >> i would not mind having a preview of this photograph. >> the motion is from commissioner fung to continue this matter until january 18, 2012. it is to allow the dbi to conduct a site visit. they need to submit copies of the photographs to the board. >> aye. vice-president garcia: aye. commissioner peterson aye. commissioner hwang: aye. >> thank you. this matter is continued. >> if there is no further

business, we are adjourned.

>> welcome to "culturewire." today we are at recology. they are celebrate 20 years of one of the most incredibly unique artist residency programs. we are here to learn more from one of the resident artists.

welcome to the show, deborah. tell us how this program began 20 years ago. >> the program began 20 years ago. our founder was an environmentalist and an activist and an artist in the 1970's. she started these street sweeping campaigns in the city. she started with kids. they had an exhibition at city hall. city officials heard about her efforts and they invited her to this facility. we thought it would coincide with our efforts to get folks to recycle, it is a great educational tool. since then, we have had 95 professional artists come through. >> how has the program changed over the years? how has the program -- what can the public has an artist engage with? >> for the most part, we worked with metal and wood, what you

would expect from a program like ours. over the years, we tried to include artists and all types of mediums. conceptual artists, at installation, photographers, videographers. >> that has really expanded the program out. it is becoming so dynamic right now with your vision of interesting artists in gauging here. why would an artist when to come here? >> mainly, access to the materials. we also give them a lot of support. when they start, it is an empty studio. they go out to the public area and -- we call it the big store. they go out shopping, take the materials that, and get to work. it is kind of like a reprieve, so they can really focus on their body of work. >> when you are talking about recology, do you have the only

sculpture garden at the top? >> it is based on work that was done many years ago in new york. it is the only kind of structured, artist program. weit is beautiful. a lot of the plants you see were pulled out of the garbage, and we use our compost to transplant them. the pathway is lined with rubble from the earthquake from the freeways we tour about 5000 people a year to our facility, adults and children. we talk about recycling and conservation. they can meet the artists. >> fantastic. let's go meet some of your current artists. here we are with lauren. can you tell us how long have been here so far and what you're working on? >> we started our residency on

june 1, so we came into the studio then and spent most of the first couple weeks just digging around in the trash. i am continuing my body of work, kind of making these hand- embroidered objects from our day-to-day life. >> can you describe some of the things you have been making here? this is amazing. >> i think i started a lot of my work about the qualities of light is in the weight. i have been thinking a lot about things floating through the air. it is also very windy down here. there is a piece of sheet music up there that i have embroidered third. there is a pamphlet about hearing dea -- nearing death. this is a dead rabbit. this is what i am working on now. this is a greeting card that i found, making it embroidered. it is for a very special friend.

>> while we were looking at this, i glanced down and this is amazing, and it is on top of a book, it is ridiculous and amazing. >> i am interested in the serendipity of these still life compositions. when he got to the garbage and to see the arrangement of objects that is completely spontaneous. it is probably one of the least thought of compositions. people are getting rid of this stuff. it holds no real value to them, because they're disposing of it. >> we're here in another recology studio with abel. what attracted you to apply for this special program? >> who would not want to come to the dump? but is the first question. for me, being in a situation that you're not comfortable in has always been the best. >> what materials were you immediately attracted to when you started and so what was available here?

>> there are a lot of books. that is one of the thing that hits me the most. books are good for understanding, language, and art in general. also being a graphic designer, going straight to the magazines and seeing all this printed material being discarded has also been part of my work. of course, always wood or any kind of plastic form or anything like that. >> job mr. some of the pieces you have made while you have been here. -- taught me through some of the pieces you have made while you have been here. >> the first thing that attracted me to this was the printed surface. it was actually a poster. it was a silk screen watercolor, about 8 feet long. in terms of the flatwork, i work with a lot of cloddish. so being able to cut into it come at into it, removed parts, it is part of the process of negotiating the final form. >> how do you jump from the two

dimensional work that you create to the three-dimensional? maybe going back from the 3f to 2d. >> everything is in the process of becoming. things are never said or settled. the sculptures are being made while i am doing the collages, and vice versa. it becomes a part of something else. there's always this figuring out of where things belong or where they could parapets something else. at the end goal is to possibly see one of these collage plans be built out and create a structure that reflects back into the flat work. >> thank you so much for allowing "culturewire" to visit this amazing facility and to learn more about the artists in residence program. is there anything you like our viewers to know? >> we have art exhibitions every four months, and a win by the

public to come out. everybody is welcome to come out. we have food. sometimes we have gains and bands. it is great time. from june to september, we accept applications from bay area artists. we encouraged artists from all mediums to apply. we want as many artists from the bay area out here so they can have the same experience. >> how many artists to do your host here? >> 6 artist a year, and we receive about 108 applications. very competitive. >> but everyone should be encouraged to apply. thank you again for hosting us. >> thank you for including us in "culturewire." ♪