every year but then are usually restored. in order not to put those nonprofits or services through the same thing would have to advocate for themselves, thereby taking away their time and resources from serving for the community, that that be taken into account during the budget process this year, that they take into account that there's certain things that fairly consistently every year end up on the chopping block and then get restored to not but never went through the same thing. >> i think, last year, the mayor did a good job of incorporating the back and the nonprofit community, as well as from the board, in trying to have his budget reflect not just his priorities but also what he was hearing from the community and from the supervisors. and i think he wants to do the same thing in the upcoming year. at the end of the day, we still have to have a balanced budget. there will still need to be

choices that have to be made. he has not made decisions yet about what he is going to be proposing in his budget to cut, but he has instructed departments explicitly -- the department had a meeting yesterday, and in our written this -- instructions, they need to have their own outreach processes. they should be having their own meetings. we had our meetings with nonprofit partners. they should have their own meetings with nonprofits to talk about these concerns i thing you'll see that the mayor has said in previous venues that he is likely to do more town hall meetings like he did last year and more average to meetings and he did last year, and i very much appreciate that. i think that dialogue is important. >> i think people are happier with the outcome in the end. i think this is more on the front end. i think the mayor did a great job last year of listening to the community and the proposed budget.

but earlier on, i think some of the nonprofit advocates were hoping that departments will look hard from the get go at the cuts they're proposing to the mayor. and intend to try to leave out certain cuts that the proposed every year but then get restored. >> i understand the point. i do think there are reasons the department proposed the cuts that they do, whether it is because agencies have not performed well in rfp or issues like that. but your point is well-taken. i will certainly relate that to the mayor. supervisor kim: it is just feedback. it is tiring to come every year and for six months spend time worrying and advocating for your programs, and then they get rid story -- restored every year. people start to say, maybe we shall not put ourselves through that process all the time. but i completely understand the challenges that departments have one proposing these cuts. >> thank you, supervisor. supervisor chu: thank you,

supervisor. thank you, rick. >> members of the budget and finance committee, clerk of the board. a one-minute presentation. and the executive branch of government has released their budget instructions, and i am here before you today to get your budget instructions as person to board rule 6.23. in january, you receive a draft budget based on the guidelines we're talking about today. a quick refresher, our budget is a $10.7 million budget. notably, since i have been the clerk of the board, we're not generating about $500,000 in fees for service as part of our solutions for the general fund savings on going. over the years, even during the dotcom boom, our department and i grow like you saw other departments to do so. only minimum-wage bill -- only

minimally with natural growth. the budget analyst contract, the capper, and our labor costs make it 93% of our department's budget. the remainder is about $800,000, and i will commit myself to looking in every corner to look for potential cost-savings, as we have in prior committee direction. now to turn to the guidelines. the charter provides that the clerk will have charge of the legislative record, classified staff, and the office. the draft budget will anticipate the boards similar number of files needing to be processed. a. current number of standing committees that will comply with did demands of the requirements and generally hold the current -- clark's death and the sources constant while reviewing for cost savings, reorganization opportunities. finally, i would appreciate direction from the committee. if it is different than what i plan to put in the draft budget,

which is the configuration or allocation of resources as it pertains to the 22 legislative aide positions. otherwise, you will see it as it currently is. that concludes my presentation to i am here to gather any additional guidelines or take back recommendations, and i am here for your questions. supervisor chu: thank you very much for your presentation but i know this is a short one because we will be seeing multiple drafts before gets some of it. i would just advise that before we get to the mid-january meeting where we would see a draft of it, of course i know that you will always reach out to individual members of the board for feedback, but i do think that it is probably a fairly safe assumption to assume that we are going to have the same amount of legislation. i think maybe it would be wise to talk to the president of the board and anticipate whether any committees will change or whether that will have different structures that will impact your work. in terms of the legislative

record, i would be interested to see what our plans are and to record the many years of history that we do have. that is something i would be interested in. other than that, any ideas that you have in cost-savings and reorganization opportunities would be welcome. >> and i have a few, and i will share them with you, supervisor. thank you. supervisor chu: are there any members of the public who would like to speak on item number e 11? or nine? seeing none, public comment is closed. if we could, we will file item number 11 and continue to call item number 9, which is a budget update. we will do that without objection. thank you very much. the we have any other items before us? >> beckham pleads the agenda. supervisor chu: thank you very much. we are adjourned.

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>> when there is this a children's theater, it is a good theater. it is a good theater, you would like it, even if it is for children. that is what i think. i feel like it is both a story for kids and for much older people. it is both about being a young child and letting a toy or a friend, and it is also about what it means to get old. ♪ >> in 1986, my son was two, and

i decided i would like to go over the story of the velveteen rabbit, mind you i had never read it myself as a child. i only heard it as a mother. my first-time hearing it was a bedtime story recording. it was through that that i found the theme and determined how it was going to produce this story. it was through listening to it. when a first mated, i really did watch my son, because i took him to live performances as soon as six months old. he loved it when someone was on the stage. he loved it when somebody was reading to him, the language. >> there was once a velveteen rabbit. >> usually when the bunny first comes out ago, ah, the rabbit.

i think kids can relate to it. and they built love nana. nana is the man at all figure in the show, and she represents stern love. the ferry is also played by the same person. -- the fairy is played by the same person. it is like the love you have for your first child. pure love. >> i think nature is a beautiful thing. all the wild rabbits come from nature. i like that. i think nature is mysterious, a beautiful, and not something our kids get very much these days. ♪ >> there is fantastical

spectacle these days because of computers and films. i feel that in a live performance, being pared down, you can be more successful you can ask everybody to buy into the world you're in. if it is a simple world, they will buy into it, as long as the world is consistent that you have onstage. in some ways, i also want that message for kids. the world does not have to be spectacle. the world can be about relationships, how you feel, and having fun and taking them seriously. and not about being blown away. >> what is real, asked the rabbit one day. >> it is a thing that happens to you when a child loves you for a long, long time. >> i think it is a success because, for the most part, if you are 3 or 7 years old, you

sit in the sea, and the kids are engaged. they laugh and ask questions but that is part of the success. i think the fact that we tour and do it here and still have audiences says it is a lasting. i really want to say that it is lasting is because of the story is a gentle story. if it was just ok, it would not have lasted this long. i have had people come up to me and say that was the first dance show i ever saw and that is why i am a choreographer today. i have had people come back after being in the shows and come back to see it when they're 20 and 23 years old. little kids and people in their 50s and 60s tell me how much they love it. and they come back more than once, year after year. ♪

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to call the november 8 public utility commissions and to order. commissioner moran commission. >> here. >> the vice president is out of the country. commissioner caen. >> here. >> president vietor:. >> here. >> commissioner courtney:. >> here. >> we have the minutes of the october 25 meeting before us. any additions or corrections to those minutes? >> so moved. >> second. >> we have one speaker card. >> ok, public comment. >> good afternoon. commissioners, general manager, i sat in front of you two weeks ago at the last meeting. i rode up some issues regarding what i called a scam. a scam is when you scam people

of money. i wrote in the documents, this is not something that i manufactured or something that i brought up or something that i created. this is regarding a change order. this is the way the puc works. >> excuse me. we're considering the minutes. >> it is in the minutes, sir. the minutes said i suggested it. i did not suggest. i said there is a problem. what i said two weeks ago, said the puc needed to investigate it. i came in with a good heart, telling the puc this is what i found. the first thing that i find out is that the puc told then that i complained about the abbottabad is not acceptable. >> as far as the minutes are concerned, is there an issue with what they say? my impression is that they were

a transcription from the reporting of the meeting. >> with all due respect, the word that has been used in the minutes -- let me read it. he further suggested that he believes that there were inappropriate billing on some of the wsip regional projects. this is on page 3. i did not suggest. i confirmed that there is. i further confirmed -- let me put it to you this way, sir. no one can get documents like this. >> if i may interject, mr. president. we discussed this at length last meeting. it was agreed that you talk to the general manager about your grievances. for you to bring it up again i do not think is appropriate. have you talked with the general manager? >> i have not received a phone call from the general manager, no. i am speaking in front of you

because the minutes said that i suggested something. i want to go on record saying that i did not suggest. commissioner moran: would a more appropriate word be that you stated? >> yes, sir. commissioner moran: would there be objection to amending the minutes to say that he stated? >> well, i question what the transcript says. >> commissioners, the minutes are just a summary. because the meetings are video recorded, you have a 100% minutes, a recording of what occurred in the meeting. so the commentary under the requirement of the sunshine ordinance are that they summarize the comments of public speakers, which is what i intended to do. i did not mean to imply anything by the use of that, only looking for phrasing that was a little

bit less tilted. commissioner vietor: it does seem that the most neutral phrasing of that would be to reflect a statement that was made that then gives no particular judgment, either pro or con to the validity of that statement. >> i think stated works as long as there's not a quote after that. commissioner vietor: if that would be acceptable, commission, could i get a motion to amend the minutes do that? >> so moved. >> second. commissioner vietor: on the amendment, all those in favor? opposed. it carries. on the minutes themselves, all those in favor? and that passes as well. thank you. >> the next item is general public comment. i only have maybe one speaker card. >> yes, and i will try to be even less than three minutes but

i am with the committee to save lake merced. i understand is the agenda item is for matters that are not under this agenda but are within the jurisdiction of the agency. it is within your jurisdiction to compliant with both the brown act and the u.s. such an ordinance. i would simply like to make a hypothetical case order. and given the agency in the city and county of san francisco has an agenda item which includes four things. one of which is approving a very controversial agreement. the second one is accepting a very controversial report that to four years to fair and over half a million dollars. the next item is to hear a report about a close to $1 million expenditure being made that is also very controversial. the fourth item is levels in some lakes, what have you. yet, the public only allowed three minutes per speaker to speak on that. i am not going to ask for more. i am going to point out that

when i saw the agenda, the first word that came to my mind was bundling. bundling. not in the context of political contributions. but i think that the issue in question deserves more than three minutes from speakers, one of whom came from sen has say -- san jose, one kid from sonora. that is my comment peter i am not asking for favors. i hope it does not happen again. >> the rules of the commission states that the speakers will be allowed three minutes, the provision of law is that speakers be treated equally. so we applied that three-minute rotation into everybody that speaks before us. there is no limit on questions or on the response to questions, so if there are issues raised during the limited comments that require additional information and discussion, that can

certainly happen. thank you for your comments. i do understand that we will be hearing from you and others later in the meeting today. is there any other public comment e the commission today? ok, then we will move on. on communications, i would like to point out one thing. there was a response to the mayor's office on attendance by commissioners. this is something that is being requested of all commissions. the good news is that our attendance record is pretty good. frankly, i think it is appropriate that the mayor be making those kind of inquiries and that that be tracked on an ongoing basis. i say that with full knowledge that my first meeting -- a meeting as a share, a was not here. not the strongest way to talk about it, but i do welcome that, and i am pleased that our record is as good as it is. anything else on the ledger

summary, commissioners? advanced calendar. i have a couple questions. on the the cca business, i just want to confirm what the schedule is for that coming back to us. i think there is a board hearing on november 10. is that right? >> tomorrow, thursday of this week, there is a board hearing on cca. if you recall, the commission in the last joint meeting with lafco past a tentative term sheet. the board chose to, instead of actually having the board tried to vote on the term sheet, they chose to have a hearing instead. there is a hearing in government audits committee on thursday about the concept of cca, and the items on the term sheet will be on that. there is a related hearing on december 7 of the budget

committee on raising their rates for hetch hetchy power. on december 6, there is a joint hearing, again, of the puc and lafco. and the expectation would be that we would be bringing you the actual contracts at that meeting. on december 13, you had your regular meeting of the puc, and we would expect, among other things, you have an official rate discussion of municipal rates for the commission on december 13. commissioner vietor: the expectation is the contract itself will be on the joint meeting on december 6. >> and that will be for the board of supervisors and the budget analyst in city economist. then it would be heard in voted on by the board in january. then it would come back here. that is one of the contingent items you have before we actually would find something.

commissioner vietor: ok. the other thing on advanced calendar, we're not having second meetings in either november or december, which means that the first meeting, or the only meeting in those two months, is likely to be very pact. a couple things with respect to that, first, we need to expect that those will be long meetings unscheduled ourselves accordingly. general manager and i spoke about what has been sort of an informal rule that we will be working to adhere to more rigorously, and that is basically the staff presentations for action items where there is an issue that is ripe for action and is well- developed. those presentations should be no more than five minutes. if we're dealing with a non action item from those presentations should be no more than 10 minutes.

i think that hopefully will keep the discussion a little more crispy. there is again no limitation on the number of public comments that with been made. there's no limitation on the commissioner's ability to ask questions and getting answers. it is just a matter of having the discipline to organize our thoughts. >> and commissioner, we do intend to do that. the third thing was also the workshop of grouping, which is for logger items. i think today i anticipate a new rule we're trying to enforce. i think the presentation on the bourse said may be more than five minutes. but i also expect the workshop on item 12 will be less than 30. >> excuse me, and you say the states again where we do not have the meetings and the ones that are anticipated to be longer? commissioner vietor: well, there's not going to be a second

meeting this month. >> on november 22? >> correct. >> and there's also not one -- >> december 27. >> so the other one in december will be the long one. >> december 13. we are trying to not make it too long, but it may be a little longer. commissioner vietor: and for that matter, the first one in january is liable to get long. on a similar note, it would help the commission if staff reports can be clear within the first page, at most two, as to the take away messages. if things get tight in commissioners do not have time to read a 20-page document, at the end of the first or second page, they should know at least the three or five things that you really want them to know. i think with those three points,

hopefully we can deal with the present business. that is before us primarily in december. anything else on advanced calendar, commissioners? ok. staff report, we have three. and in the sense of getting the take away messages out there, the first one was the audit report, and i continue to be impressed by the robustness of that audit program. i think you take away on and that is that we continue to have some more that has already been identified, that we continue summer and the real-estate arena, and that the city-wide hrc of it is one issue we need to pay attention to. but it is impressive for