daughter, my 6-year-old in time. it is a lot of work, and sometimes, we are running late and we have to run. i just wanted to say if you could support this campaign. [applause] supervisor campos: thank you. next speaker. >> i'm here with the organization of p.o.w.e.r., part of the campaign to get free muni passes for all. now more than ever, we need to make buses more affordable for families who are struggling to get by and also, i'm a resident of bayview. i live out toward -- i live a little ways from town. i also have an 8-year-old boy who relies on transportation to get to school every dayso both

every day. so we ask for your support. supervisor campos: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is steve williams, and i am with power. i appreciate the issue that family flight was continued to a future time, but i think it is important to underscore the connection between family flight over time and work orders. in a lot of ways it can be thought of as abstract financial issues that people are not concerned about, but the reality is that the city has taken the position that any time there are deficits, those deficits are dealt with through service cuts and fare increases.

we are lucky there is a new management. there is a new administration, both of whom committed real interest to try to deal with the structural issues that historically existed in muni. i think it is critical that the board of supervisors have taken the leadership to ask hard questions. as john mentioned some a number of people that have testified already have been working on the campaign to get free passes for young people, which is not just the right thing to do, but particularly urgent given that the school service is slashing the schools o bus service for young people to get to school. munjio said we do not have money, but the rally is they did not know how they're spending the money.

we want to be clear that public dollars for public transit should be used to meet the needs for people to get around the city. in response to the question, no, it is not appropriate for them to pay for the san francisco motorcycle unit. you can put your bike on muni. i have never seen a bus were you can put the motorcycle on the bus. i think there are real questions about whether or not it is appropriate that the san francisco muni department, but no security be provided by motorcycle riders. it is critical we find the timeline where your questions about where it is that the money is going, we need a timeline of windows will be answered, because already the are dealing with a multimillion-dollar deficit, and those questions need to be answered urgently.

-- we need a wind[applause] >> good morning. my name is joyce lamb. i am here to speak on behalf of the many parents that are in at work today. this is not only about public transportation, this is about the quality and the employment opportunities. i think many of those are great because we're able to travel across the city, while many of us cannot afford driving or pay for parking. however, increasingly more so than ever it becomes a struggle to choose between rent, and buying bus fare. it should not be that way. as a city san francisco is telling citizens that if we value education we're obligated to provide a means for it. i really appreciate mta and the comptroller's office in city attorney, we see a lot of

opportunity to fix the budget and manage it better and think on behalf of the working families in san francisco. thank you for your leadership, and we're counting on you to bring this forward. supervisor campos: think you. the speaker. -- thank you. [applause] >> [speaking spanish] good afternoon. my name is gloria, and i am from power, and i want to thank you. i want to thank you for your sensitivity to the community. this is not the first time i have seen you supporting us, and i want to bthank god, and i am

very grateful to have you as supervisors. >> [speaking spanish] >>this is the first time i am hearing about how the money is spent. and what it takes to make muni

run, and i am grateful for the questions you asked. my own questions were answered through the once you made. i do have a final question i want to ask the community in supervisors, which is why don't we have a way to regulate the wasted money that is being spent, because it is causing a lot of pain to the community? >> [speaking spanish]

>> i ask myself why the policy stance that we are using used to get to -- that using the bus to get to work and school. why are we trying to criminalize people in using funds to do that? why did believe the youth, before they even committed a crime, i think it is unfair and be ashamed of this policy. >> [speaking spanish]

>> i doubt there is a way right now that we can regulate how the money is being spent and how it is affecting our communities with money that we have to pay, pain we feel, and so i just want to thank you for the work you have done. supervisor campos: think you. next speaker, please. [applause] -- thank you. >> this year i have been working with my students to work on a campaign with many of the groups here. having been born and raised in san francisco my entire life i have come to depend on transit on something -- as something as a lifeline. same goes for many of the students i work with.

at this time i think there is much room for improvement on how muni is run. i would have much more faith if it was run more efficiently. we would really like to see curbing of overtime costs, and finally, really see that we have a portable costs of transportation for young people in san francisco. i think at this time more than ever we have opportunity to work with mta and many different partners to seek new leadership. we hope to see we can have real conversations on how to fund a free muni. thank you. >[applause] >> good afternoon, government of oversight. if muni loves you and wants to

help you, won't you give them free passes today? and it wants to drive you, drive away, and if it wants to help you, and it really wants to help you drive them with free all the way. through the good and clean it years and the budget in between the years. remember, keep the green here today. it if muni loves you and wants o help you, give them free fast passes today. through the good and lean years and keep it all really green here, all through may.

if you really want to help us, and drives and won't you help us drive us to the muni end all the way. and i hope you help us, help us with free passes. drive us all the way. >> good luck to you, and help us. drive us with repasses all through the month of may. all i have to say now is good luck to you, and mta. and we need your help today, and we need it right now. good luck, mta. [applause] [laughter]

supervisor campos: thank you. thank you very much. is there any other member of the public that would like to speak, comments, sing on this matter? seeing none, public comment is closed. i was wondering if i could ask ms. bovogh to come back. i want to thank the members of the public that have come out to speak here. there are many things that muni needs money for. there are very important public that are badly needed where money can be spent. we heard from so many young people who talked about the need for young people in san francisco to have free access to public transit, and it is hard when an agency says where do we find the money when you see

they're spending $62 million, and we know something as simple as having the performance standard contracts are not being done. we see from what we know from the comptroller -- comptroller that there are six and zero us't had not been even signed. that changes are sometimes made to the contracts without any written statement. that we even have a standard that guides when an action or expenditure is appropriate, that it is an ad hoc decision, and when you look at this, i think that one has to conclude that when it comes to certainly work orders, at the management has been sleeping at the wheel. has been sleeping at the wheel.

that is not something you want a transit agency to be accused of. so where do we go from here? because we have had this conversation so many times as president chu indicated. since he and i have been in office for three years, this has been a topic of discussion, and very basic things have not happened. >> i agree with you. i think there is more work to do on our end in terms of making the work orders more robust. i also think the question you asked about the additional audit, whether you want to consider that or not, but we will revisit the work orders. this is certainly something we need to do. secondly, we happechanged -- wee changed the methodology. i know the director is committed to working on these issues in

the near future. supervisor campos: is there a specific target you have? are they going to reduce work orders by 20 percent signed by the end of the year? is there a specific target you have in mind? >> that is a tough question, and i would like to address that wdr.with dr. reskin and get back to you. supervisor campos: ok, we are here asking, and i know president chu would agree with me in asking the director to follow up on this review and look at the top 10 departments that are receiving work orders and have a closer analysis on whether of not -- whether or not the expenditures are appropriate, that there is enough of a nexus between

transit and public expenditures so we do have an area where public dollars are being spent on public transit so that we maximize the use of those dollars. we will do that, and i do not know from the comptroller's office if i could ask the comptroller how long before that review is finalized, because i know as we are talking about the budget process beginning, it is an important for us to get that done sooner rather than later? >> yes, sir. as committed earlier in the conversation, we will immediately speak with the director, and the comptroller will help us facilitate and navigate, as well as spending time with you of the president and anyone else on the board to make sure we have the relevant questions and we delineate to a place where it is very specific and we can move it forward quickly. supervisor campos: can this be

done within 30 days? what is a realistic time line? >> i do not know if it can be done in 30-60 days. what is most important is that we can get together and have a dialogue and move forward with the specific question and make the commitment of a reasonable time. we're willing to discuss that and keep to the commitment once established with all parties involved. supervisor campos: one suggestion i would make is maybe we can have an internal discussion following this hearing to see what is feasible, and in the next few days we can make an announcement about how long that would take so there is a real commitment made so that we do not wait too long, especially since we know the budget process is already starting.

maybe we can figure it out in the next few days and let people know it would be -- when it would be the study is done, and i do hope the mayor's office is paying close attention to this issue, because you have heard the importance of this issue. president chiu: thank you. i certainly agreed that your analogy from many of our perspectives, mta has been asleep at the wheel. i want to thank all the people that have come out, and the trip early the young people that have been advocating. this morning on cnn there was amazing footage of a 17-year-old who woke up a bus driver with the -- who saw a bus driver asleep at the wheel. i think the young people today are advocating we are making sure we're getting it done. certainly also i know there were

folks that commented about the need for free muni. i was part of the majority. i think part of the reason for how quickly we can get this done is over the next six weeks the amount of money that will be spent by the city and work orders will be equivalent to what it would cost to get free muni in san francisco. [applause] and i do not think, and dino supervisor campos shares that, i do not think we can wait any longer. -- and i know that supervisor campos shares that, but i do not think we can wait any longer. from my perspective i do not understand why it has been so difficult to get an understanding of what is happening with the black folk b.

i want to thank the comptroller and other agencies for their work on this, but we have a lot of work to do, and i hope we can get it done quickly. thank you. csupervisor campos: why don't we have this matter be continued to the chair? again, i look forward to the follow-up conversations in the next few days week -- so we can make an announcement as to when the additional review by the comptroller will be completed. we can have a motion. we can take that without objection. thank you very much. the topic, the overall subject matter of today's hearing, hearings and items basically, how do we bring good government to the mta? how do we make sure we have an effectively run agency as

possible. we can call item no. 3. >> item #3, resolution encouraging manageable transportation agency to drop the policy to address -- policy to address overtime over runs in the fiscal year 2011-2012 and subsequent years. supervisor campos: this is an item i introduced with supervisor farrell, who could not be here. i want to thank him for his co- sponsorship of this item. let me say why i think it's important for us to pay attention to overtime. there are instances when overtime is appropriate, when departments need to spend money on overtime. for me to focus on the issue of overtime is not about questioning over time when the expenditure is appropriate, nor is it about questioning be in very important work that the

employees of the mta do for that agency on a daily basis. it is simply about how the agency is managing overtime to ensure that we are indeed using the very limited dollars we have in an effective way. if you look at the issue over time, the city spent millions of dollars in overtime in the last fiscal year for fiscal year 2010-2011. the top-10 overtime departments spent more than $90 million on overtime. the mta accounted for 36.6% of that total. $33 million in overtime that the mta budget did,, at -- and that figure was revised to $35

million, and if you actually look at the actual in terms of what was spend at the mta for the fiscal year 2010-2011, spent $48 million. that was spent in overtime. that is about 40% of the cities over time. so if we're talking about the mta having to deal with budget deficit, having to balance its books, you cannot do that unless you address this very important issue, unless we have a sense of what they are doing to look at that issue. the reason why we are here is because one of the things that supervisor farrell and i realize is that agencies have not had a plan, a written plan for how to tackle the issue of overtime. we have asked the mta to come back to us.

we did that in september, and they said it would take 60 days to come back to us and present a plan for how they're going to address the issue, and that is why we're here. i want to ask the representatives to please come up and tell us, present to was the plan they have put together for handling and addressing the issue over time -- addressing the issue of overtime. i want to thank you. i want to thank the director for making this a priority. we look forward to your presentation. >> deborah johnson, director of it ministration. the director offers his apologies because he wanted to be here. first and foremost, looking at the first slide, we have a $780 million budget, and as you can see when you look at personal, salary, the 55% of our budget

goes to the line item, but on the flip side we have over time. some of it is scheduled and some of it and schedule. the presentation will delve more deeply into what we mean muni overtime as opposed to what was referred to. going to the next slide, when we talk about the overtime, as i indicated, we have scheduled overtime. the majority is in here to the transit industry whereby a bus operator often has to deadhead, and they have a certain block of time in which they work. there is a myriad of other things that come into play when we talk about the scheduled overtime. opening up a station, shutting it down, and that is what is included in the whole new lots of scheduled overtime. also, we of special event. there are reoccurring events scheduled every year.

we know if there is clear to be some kind of construction you need parking control officers out there to help the facilitating of traffic. that can be planned for. on the flip side we have had staffing shortages. from that we have had to compensate for not having enough employees, and that is because we have not had it allocated in the budget, or had budgeted positions and not killed, or we have had budgeted positions, and people are not at work because of leaguve and things alike. quite naturally i am sure everyone is aware when we talk about equipment and infrastructure issues, it has to do with us try to strive to have a state of good repair because vehicles are not in the shape we would like. when we talk about having state of the are more reliable

equipment -- state of the art and more reliable equipment. going forward, looking at the overtime projections for the fiscal year, to the left we have it itemize byline, relative to station agents, the front lines that come and the underlying point is we're roughly at $32 million in reference to what we budgeted. when you look at the year-end projection, we are at $57 million. as you indicated before, we have of budget deficit, and it is a major driver of that -- the overtime is a major driver of that. as we know the vast majority is muni. transit officer's account for 2000 of the 5000 employees.

the reason time for the staffing of bridge is as we go forward and talk about the plan in which they are leveraging with the recent labor contract that we have for workers union to 38, we have had the ability to hire more operators in utilize part- time operators. sources -- more specifically, we actually graduated a class of part-time employees that are working out of the kirkland division, and that was an instance whereby we had a lot of overtime in standby pay issues due to the fact that these are limited routes that run during the peak hours and to ensure we had operators readily available, we have them there ready to do that. special event, when we go forward we will right size the budget. we will look at special event and doing due diligence