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thank you. [tone!] >> good morning. my name is bill soro, president of the barbary coast neighborhood association. in the last issue of our newspaper, i wrote a column of like -- i would like to capitalize for you. the occupy movement has become a major issue in san francisco and all over the world. the protestors are claiming the government has conspired with corporate interests to allow the rich to get richer while too big to fail actions have protected the companies. the rationale for all of this is greed, pure and simple. at the core is a broken and corrupt political system of values money above everything else. let's compare this issue to the matter at hand today.
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through a quirk in zoning when the embarcadero freeway was removed, the owner of the gateway apartments own a cherished recreation facility that is in this zone -- miszoned for 85 but housing. now the developers want even more. why would he want to virtually eliminate the one recreational component the gateway renters can enjoy it seems like it would help to rent apartments, right? agreed comes into play again. mr. food stands to make -- mr. fu stands to make more money by selling the land and getting the action on three future sales. do you want to toss out a 50- year consensus policy of not raising heights along the embarcadero so that a developer
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can build high-rise vacation homes for the 0.5%? do you want to destroy a place where 2000 san franciscans work out and enjoy the only outdoor tennis and swimming facilities in the city? these the same middle class families the city wants to keep your. do you forever want to block their common views from the very building -- ferry building and park in joined by residents and visitors? if that is the case, this is a very disappointing day for san francisco. thank you. [tone!] >> good morning, commissioners. i am appearing before you today on behalf of a group known as recreation and open space for the waterfront.
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we have participated for over 30 years in a variety of different activities on the waterfront. collectively, we work with a group called the waterfront action group and the barbary coast to have a hotel site reduced from 84 feet down to 40 feet. the president of the supervisors personally carry that forward and that the zoning redone. that site had been zoned for 40 feet by the waterfront land use plan. after it was owned, they encouraged the developer to build a hotel that would take advantage of the pre-zoning put there in 1951 by caltrans and the city to put a freeway. if you collectively look at all of the freeway sites, 84 foot zoning was there. this site, the golden gate, and recreational complex, has never
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had any history of being zone for housing. it was put there in 1951 because the freeway was there. subsequent to that, the redevelopment agency came along and build one of the great things they have accomplished in our history -- a whole neighborhood, including 1200 rental apartments, the golden gateway swim and tennis club without force bases. it is regarded as one of the great outdoor recreational facilities in san francisco. the wonderful long will disappear when they build the green roof. the present plan for 8 washington street presented two weeks ago called for no tennis courts and a larger swimming complex. the building would go from 84 feet to 92 and 132 -- a 50- foot increase.
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this is a wonderful neighborhood. 2000 people are seniors that live across the street in the golden gateway center. over 2000 other people live in the neighborhood. there are 1500 tenants, commercial tenants who use the neighborhood. in changing the height and removing the swimming and tennis club, you are going to sentence the seniors and others to an earlier death. that is what is going to happen. when that goes away for the benefit of a new group of people, you will find this position and future dramatically changed. -- their disposition and future dramatically changed. >> my name is stored morton. i have been on the technical advisory committee for a number of years as a preservationist. i was one of the founders of heritage 40 years ago. i have been on the northeast
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were differences ins -- citizens. i have been on the northeast citizens waterfront advisory commission for a number of years. i was against the initial project because it was tall buildings. the logical outcome of a lot of the composition was to lower the front building and raised about building. that seems logical. if you look at the building behind a project, it is huge. it is very tall. simon has done a fine job with other piers. we know he is a quality developer. this project is advantageous to the port. i am concerned about the port. they need more than $1 billion to do the things that will bring the sport in to good condition. this is one product that will help that. it is only an 8 ft. addition in
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the front. it goes from 84 to 92 feet. it is only one portion of the building. it is only adding one story. it is not such a bad abuse of the height limit. i am in favor of this. thank you very much. >> my name is julie sullivan representing the action coalition. we believe this will bring enormous benefits to the entire city. in spite of all the controversy, what is being discussed is a simple land-use question. should lot 351 remain a parking lot or not? if not a parking lot, what should it become?
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the opposition comes from a small group of people, mostly white and upper-middle-class, that have lived in the neighborhood for decades. it should be noted that the housing they live in replaced an earlier generation of businesses and residents. we also noticed that many of those opposed to the project of lived here for years in rent- control housing. it is a curious platform from which to oppose new how it -- new housing. it displaces no one except tennis courts. the accusations against the project is that it will become largely housing, something we can see. this is some of the most valuable land in northern california. for decades through land-use decisions and policy, the city
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has said it the land is developed for private housing, it must pay. this includes rent to the city, enormous fees to support subsidized housing, a new private maintained park, a new recreational facility, in the walkway to access the waterfront, and enlivened streetscape. these are not small benefits or cheaper ones. on the question of height, we would know the proposed project is 1/4 of the commercial building and 1/2 of the adjacent residential building. this is nestled among the tallest buildings on the skyline. we ask the city to choose a land use alternative that benefits the largest number of sentences since -- san franciscans and not those of a single neighborhood. >> is there additional public
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comment? it is not necessary. >> my name is lee is -- louise renny. i would like to follow-up with three comments in opposition to the change. when you take a look at the pictures of the project, much is made of the improvement in the condition of the property facing the embarcadero. that is true. presently, the owners have kept the property in such poor condition purposely that anything would be an improvement. the neighbors have announced that the fence be painted. we have volunteered to do it. -- the neighbors have asked the defense be painted. we have volunteered to do it. we have announced that a copy piece of land be open and available for open space.
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for many of us, it is the height of hypocrisy to be rewarding what should be a code enforcement action taken against the developer, and you are rewarding him with a high change. as my husband and others have pointed out, this is the beginning of the end of an open waterfront policy that has stood the city in good stead. i do not care to live in a place like miami beach. if this developer and others waiting in the wings get their way, that is what is going to happen to san francisco. that is not necessary when there are alternatives. none of the neighbors are saying no to anything. we are trying to take a look and
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a viewpoint of what makes san francisco special. having the waterfront height limit at a level which keeps the water from open is -- waterfront open is certainly in the best interest of the city. none of us seek that making this change will meet the test that this commission must meet to make the jones -- make the zoning change. thank you. >> i am jim chapel representing spur. i went back into the archives to look at some of our history working on this issue going back to 1990 and proposition h..
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the six years and thousands of hours of work that some of you were involved in. it finally came out on june 24, 1997. that is when the waterfront land use plan was passed designating this site as an opportunity site for development. since then, the port commission has been undergoing almost constant scrutiny of that plan and the site for the past six years. dozens of workshops, meetings, and hearings at the port commission. two years ago when i stepped down, i decided i would continue to testify on the project because i had started on it and thought it would only be a couple of months with a couple more meetings. he r&r two years later.
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-- here we are two years later. we are considering a project that is brilliant. it is a first-class developer with a track record for keeping commitments and developing a first class projects. and absolutely first-rate architect and landscape architect from incredible community benefits in terms of opening the corridors, open spaces. the reconfiguration of the health club as desired by the owners of the private business, significant badly needed revenue for the port, and badly needed housing for the city. finally, the removal of an eyesore that may have been appropriate 50 years when it was up against a double decker freeway, but it is clearly not appropriate today considering the grand embarcadero boulevard. this waterfront belongs to all of us, not just a few neighbors.
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the photos simulation you were shown shows the wrong elevation of the building. it shows the view from the embarcadero and not from the park. there is a big misunderstanding there. the irony is that the neighbors are going to be major beneficiaries of the project. this will be a significant environmental benefits to everyone. it is a small project. 12 stories is not a high-rise building up against a building that is much higher. please vote to initiate the general plan amendment with all deliberate speed. thank you. >> any additional public comment? >> good morning. my name is pete jones. i am one of the founders of western athletic clubs and currently the senior vice president of development.
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i am here as an interested party. for the last 20 years, we have been the operators of the golden gate swimming and tennis club. we are not sponsors of this amendment. we have been invited by the developer to express our opinion as to what would be the best use of the square footage that was available to us as expressed in the development. unfortunately, in our opinion, it did require the total elimination of the tennis courts. i do not express any further opinion except that i wanted to make myself available in case there are questions that concern the operation of the club. thank you. >> additional public comment? simenon, -- c nine -- seeing
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none, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini? >> in an earlier form, this did not pass. as staff has pointed out, what is before us today is not a recommendation. this is the recommendation of the general amendment that would increase heights in part of the plan. there will be plenty of time to decide whether this is appropriate or not. if you do not initiate, you cannot have a discussion. if you do not initiate based on what the plan has been designed for, you have to initiate at the height asked for and then have a discussion. i do not think you can go up, but obviously you can go down.
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i do have some questions. if i could speak to the representative from the port, great. >there was some talk. one of the speakers early on talk about infrastructure financing and support getting the increment that cannot exceed 65%. i am not sure exactly how it is structured. is that a correct assessment? >> comment suggested the port planned on receiving 100% of the increments. this would be the second attempt to set up an ifd. first one was the rincon hill
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one set up a few years ago. we have to go forward with the process through the board of supervisors. we have to go forward on the ifd process. it is still being put together for this project. our term sheet was the best guess on what might result from the process based on rincon hill and state law. we will see how the process comes through the board and what percentages are available to the port to spend on park projects. >> that is my understanding. under the best of circumstances, the highest percentage that could possibly go back into the area of the project would be 65%. development has a higher percentage. that is all it could possibly be. my second question is in regards to the map.
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there were some questions brought up. the map we are looking at points out the zoning for 275 feet. that surrounds the park and includes the condominium. is this correct or incorrect? what is bill could be less in height? is that the situation? >> the golden gateway redevelopment plan included a recommendation for an 84 foot height limit on several properties adjacent to the project site. it is currently zoned and mount in the general plan as 84 feet. surrounding properties are sold at 275 p. regardless of the language in
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the redevelopment plan, for whatever reason the height plan was not carried forward into our actual legislative zoning and planning nmap. the backdrop is zoned for 275 feet in height. that is not precisely correspond to what was built. that is the zone height limit in the areas to the west. >> in the one area that would be to the southwest of the project site, what was billed was considerably higher than what is being proposed. it may be in the range of 200 feet or more. i think it is to the south of jackson. north of jackson, you have condominiums and other structures that are considerably lower than that. the zoning is correct on the
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map. that answers my question. i would speak in favor of initiating. i think this project goes a lot of good things. it is the exact formation, structure is a subject for discussion. there will be opportunities for that. it does give back a lot of things to the city. it does keep the club and improve it to some degree. i did have one question for the fellow from the athletic club. it has nothing to do with our initiation today. i wanted to get the latest plan. it does or does not keep the tennis courts? >> tennis courts are eliminated. >> it would enlarge the swimming facilities? >> it would enlarge the swimming
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and fitness facilities. we are, i believe, the largest operator of private tennis courts in the city. we are tennis people, if you like. i do not know if this is a viable option or not, but i would like to throw it out there. we would be more than willing to build an alternative 12-court tennis facility on some piece of land proximate to the market area. we are on a month-to-month lease with our landlord. we also have a huge responsibility to the members of the club. i propose that as a possible compromise. >> you also have the bay club.
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>> we have 10 clubs. >> i just wanted to get that clarification. it has nothing to do with this particular situation. another thing presented were some of the benefits of the parks and opening up jackson and pacific. i think the parking should be underground. there are a lot of good features to this. as i pointed out in my question , southwest of the building, there are considerably higher buildings in existence. this does step down to the waterfront. there is room for discussion on the height question. i think this addresses a lot of the concerns. it is not analogous to the fontana, two towers completely
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out of proportion to everything else that exists. this is in the context of higher and lower buildings. the lower buildings are closer to the water. i think our charge is to step down to the waterfront. that is what this appears to do. we will see what the other commissioners have to say. i think initiation is proper at this time. parks commissioner -- >> commissioner fong. >> i will speak to supporting to initiate. i am also speaking as a swimmer. i am there several times a week. i have been a charter member of the bay club since its inception in 1979. i am in love with that pool. i think it is great but we have the opportunity to improve it. we realize there will be some downtime if the project moves forward. it is much like the oil drive -- doyle drive.
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it will be better. i appreciate the comments about future development and potentially changing the height of the waterfront. it could be a slippery slope we are engaging in. i do feel this is different from fontana towers. this particular site is a cornerstone peace, a corner location, to the market- embarcadero juncture, intersection as a whole. i do not think it will stick out like a sore thumb. i think it will be a cornerstone. the developer has made many modifications to the project. i do not know what version they are on. i know there are many. in response to the neighborhood, i think they have
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been responsive. that is the main part of my comments. as far as the actual height, the best example is when we had the peter pan tent. someone pointed out that was exactly the height of what is being proposed now. i am curious what my fellow commissioners have to say. i am supportive of moving forward. commissioner moore. >> i would like to ask the city attorney to interpret for myself and the rest of the commission what we do when we find a discrepancy between different documents that we reference for our decision making. we have found ourselves in the situation before. it is extremely difficult. only you can interpret for us what it means and does not mean.
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>> kate stacey from the city attorney's office. if the committee finds discrepancies in documents, it is up to the commission on how to resolve those discrepancies and recommend changes in fixing them. one discrepancy raised was a discrepancy with the zoning map. the zoning map is considered part of the planning code. any changes to the zoning map would be pursued as a planning code amendment rather than a general plan amendment. today before the commission is just a general plan amendment. if the zoning map does need to be amended, it could be done as part of the planning code amendment.
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>> i have to think about what was said. it leaves me wondering what you really mean by that. >> commissioner miguel. >> this is the kind of matter i do not like when it comes before us. even the agenda speaks to my problem. in the description of the item, is says the requested item is associated with the development. i would rather have seen an actual change if necessary, if desired to the waterfront land use plan rather than something associated with a specific development. it is bad land-use planning, in my concept of land use planning. it is spot zoning