we have a history of really cooperative working with them and i am sure there will come through. i do not want to do little ones, i want to do a larger one of the actual construction. >> thank you. >> the other one i wanted to talk about is the cash management system, because this will also have a large impact on the project. it is looked at favorably because we are partnering with the tax collector on this project. it will actually replace the p.o.s. system that is extremely antiquated. we now have the first requirement document, and we hope to sign off by january that we're still looking at project launched by the end of april. we have an integration point

that we built into the scope of work with the permit tracking system, so these things can work together. >> thank you. commissioners, any questions? >> item 7g, update on new hires. >> we have not hired any new positions since we last talked to you, however, we do have several requisitions out. we are interviewing for three electrical inspectors on of the 14th, sometime this week. we have a couple of other positions that are stuck in the

human-resources department for additional information, and as i mentioned, the clerks are just plain that stock, and we're talking to everyone we can about getting those moved. >> how long will they stay stuck? a month? two months? >where are they being held at risk and diminished services? >> i have talked personally to our analyst in the mayor's office about four times on this. i have talked all the way to the deputy director of human resources department on its commo and,, and we are told thel try to do research and figure out -- there is a committee that consists of the mayor's office,

a human-resources, and i believe the comptroller's office, and a review of requisitions. for some reason it has been sitting there for almost a month, and we are doing our best to try to get it through. i expected to be released this month. >> thank you. >> any public comment on the directors' report items 7a-7g? seeing none, item 8, commissioners questions in matters, increase to stop. at this time commissioners may make inquiries to staff regarding practices and procedures that are of interest to the commission.

>> commissioners? >> i know a couple the months ago we met with staff to review the program. subsequently there was a hearing at the board of supervisors specifically dealing with seniors and s.r.o.'s. it would seem we may have issues to resolve as to the out reach to the seniors community. i talked a little bit with the president about this that maybe we could meet with clabber this -- collaboratives and see where our department and our reach organizations could communicate better to help with code enforcement. maybe just an ongoing thing we could look at, especially how it affects seniors. >> i know the category here is

we're providing the funding, but they are the ones doing the work. they are the ones responsible for the execution of that, and we continue to see that there is some shortfall on the level performance. >> there is some sort of disconnected i think could be helpful to discuss. >> are those mou's pending or on going? >> i think they are up this coming year. >> we did you an r.f.p. and received proposals -- most or all of our current vendors are currently negotiating price with them. we did it proposals that were slightly higher than we are budgeted for.

we will the fiscal year 2012-2013 and discussing that with the mayor's office. hopefully -- we're doing grants this year. we should have the grant agreements finish before christmas so the current contracts do expire at the end of the year. we're hoping to have everything done before christmas. >> maybe it is time to look and see if we are recovering. i have concerns about the senior community, which is only going to get larger are over the next few years, and making sure that we are addressing the needs that might be unique to that population as we talk about multiple family buildings. >> the real challenge here is the fiscal responsibility where the department is being asked to ratchet down 5 percent signed, and then there are those that ask for more than what they had been advocated from last year.

that is a very difficult task in the category of what they want more than what has been allocated. >> that is something that will have to be discussed as part of next year's budget. >> yes. thank you. >> i am still not comfortable -- i know we went around and around to date about that. i still think there has to be a way to break this down where properties that have not been turned over -- let's use a number of 20 years that have been sold, changed hands. at that time there would have been a 3r report issued.

let's say the same property in the past 20 years has gone through renovation and had permits for that job. deputy sweeney could probably answer that better. doesn't that get put into the database? that should be very easy to retrieve an updated and issued a report. why should that take a week and a half, 10 days, the same as the one when you are going back to the 1920's or 1800's? i can understand why that one would take two weeks. but a new building, that information should be right there. is there a way we can break this down so that we do not get stock 100%? we're stuck, what say we get stuck 50 percent signed, but the

other 50 percent signed it -- is there a way to release that? i would love to have someone take a look at that, and i believe there is a way. >> any other commissioner comments? >> any other public comment on item 8a? >> nancy again. i would like to ask the commission to request a follow- up to the information you heard today on can't swing it permits, because once a permit has been cancelled, sometimes people want to actually then read new expired permits, and i think that is a separate issue, and it would benefit everyone if we had an update from the department to identify what is the process whereby an expired permit is then able to be renewed?

what are the apostasies, time lines, cost? i think it is the kind of procedural issue that interjects with planning. we have heard they have a three- year entitlement, which then expires, so you have an obligation but -- because you own and control the flow of information of any permits over to them. you are their agent. i would recommend we have a complete update so everyone is on the same page on how this works and what is required. thank you for your consideration of those requests. >> thank you. >> any additional public comment? item 8b, future meetings or agendas. at this time the council make this as a future meeting were determined items that could be placed on the agenda of the next meeting and other future meetings of the building inspection commission.

the next meeting is on january 18, and in january, as gail mentioned, is when we hear the budgets. there may be a possibility of having a special meeting if needed. that date will possibly be on june 3 31st. >> when is the next pact meeting? >> thursday. at 2:00. >> any commissioner comments on item b? any public comment on 8b? seeing none, review and approval of the regular meeting. >> tis everyone in agreement

that this meeting is finished? >> i want to thank you for trying to catch us up on this. thank you. any public comment on item 9? >> i would like to wish everyone a happy christmas. happy new year. >> happy holidays. 9 > >> all the staff. >> item 10, adjournment. >> move to adjourn. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> we're now adjourned.

>> here we are at the embarcadero. we are standing at one of locations for the street artists. can you tell me about this particular location, the program? >> this location is very significant. this was the very first and only location granted by the board of supervisors for the street artist when the program began in 1972. how does a person become a street artist? there are two major tenants. you must make the work yourself and you must sell the work yourself. a street artist, the license, then submitting the work to a

committee of artists. this committee actually watches them make the work in front of them so that we can verify that it is all their own work. >> what happened during the holiday to make this an exciting location? >> this would be a magic time of year. you would probably see this place is jammed with street artists. as the no, there is a lottery held at 6 in the morning. that is how sought after the spaces are. you might get as many as 150 street artists to show up for 50 spaces. >> what other areas can a licensed street artist go to? >> they can go to the fisherman's wharf area. they can go in and around union square. we have space is now up in the castro, in fact. >> how many are there? >> we have about 420.

>> are they here all year round? >> out of the 420, i know 150 to sell all year round. i mean like five-seven days a week. >> are they making their living of of this? >> this is their sole source of income for many. >> how long have you been with this program. how much has it changed? >> i have been with the program since it began 37 and a half years ago but i have seen changes in the trend. fashion comes and goes. >> i think that you can still find plenty of titis perhaps. >> this is because the 60's is retro for a lot of people. i have seen that come back, yes. >> people still think of this

city as the birth of that movement. great, thank you for talking about the background of the program. i'm excited to go shopping. >> i would like you to meet two street artists. this is linda and jeremy. >> night said to me to print them -- nice to meet you. >> can you talk to me about a variety of products that use cell? >> we have these lovely constructed platters. we make these wonderful powder bowls. they can have a lot of color. >> york also using your license.

-- you are also using your license. >> this means that i can register with the city. this makes sure that our family participated in making all of these. >> this comes by licensed artists. the person selling it is the person that made it. there is nothing better than the people that made it. >> i would like you to meet michael johnson. he has been in the program for over 8 years. >> nice to me you. what inspired your photography? >> i am inspired everything that i see. the greatest thing about being a photographer is being able to show other people what i see. i have mostly worked in cuba and

work that i shot here in san francisco. >> what is it about being a street artist that you particularly like? >> i liked it to the first day that i did it. i like talking to mentum people. talking about art or anything that comes to our minds. there is more visibility than i would see in any store front. this would cost us relatively very little. >> i am so happy to meet you. i wish you all of the best. >> you are the wonderful artist that makes these color coding. >> nice to me to. >> i have been a street artist since 1976. >> how did you decide to be a street artist? >> i was working on union

square. on lunch hours, i would be there visiting the artist. it was interesting, exciting, and i have a creative streak in me. it ranges from t-shirts, jackets, hats. what is the day of the life of a street artist? >> they have their 2536 in the morning. by the end of the day, the last people to pack the vehicle probably get on their own at 7:30 at night. >> nice to me to condemn the -- nice to meet you. >> it was a pleasure to share this with you. i hope that the bay area will descend upon the plaza and go through these arts and crafts

and by some holiday gifts. >> that would be amazing. thank you so much for the hard work that you do. aye been in san francisco 20 years. i'm homeless. i got a good cup of coffee. i got a number. today i'm 359. >> you try to do the right thing and make a point to do what you have to to be at one place. they have all the services at one building. i can spend 4 hours touching each table ask and getting the information i need to get back on my feet. they are providing the services

under one roof. you don't have to go here or there or wait until next week. >> at the time we opened we have folks waiting outside to come in. >> good morning. >> what we are doing is trying to find out what they want and need and getting them to their services as fast as possible. >> i came to the eye glasses program. making a couple of phone calls to my family at home. >> some housing, i'm here for employment. may be see about -- i've never been to one of these. i have not been homeless before. >> the scareiest are the people who are recently homeless who look like me. look like they could be my friend or family member. a few wrong choices and bad luck got them here.

>> i was laid off 2-1/2 weeks ago and came to the project to -- >> i've been married to the same man, my childhood sweetheart he started doing drugs. we went from a nice out in texas to nothing. the next step in the process is they get linked up with a volunteer. this is the heart and soul of the public connect. we greet clients. shake their hands. ask them to follow us and talk to them as we bring them to the hall and lead them to the first station. you find they are humbling on both sides. humbling for me. it's a great opportunity to give the folks the respect they deserve and don't get enough of. >> these are the people we step over on the way to our jobs.

i was thankful to the mayor. our jobs are about helping people. this is another way for us to give back to our community that treats us very well. i like the way they take you around to get you started. that's nice. they let you go and thoser the different things you need. >> are you with a program, now? >> i was a long time -- >> you want a job search? >> career planning [inaudible]. you are interested in getting into the trades? and that is where they will double check your trading skills you got and put you on a crew and you can do construction work or any kind of construction. >> okay. >> good. are you receiving food stamps?

>> no. >> not medical or nothing. >> no. >> we got to get you hooked up. >> this the department of human searchss this is the benefit's section much the beauty on coming here today is that we brought all of our requirements to this place, this station. the assessment. the orientation, we have the screening propose, the finger imaging this helps people who are unable to tolerate going to different appointments on several days. >> i want to talk to people from housing and shelter. there are several jobs i have been given it's a matter of following up. >> i'm going to get my eye glasses, try to. when i got here they said 60

people. not everybody will get a pair. 8 million people in san francisco who are homeless. >> i volunteered for the eye screening. they are appreciative, they tell us that. and they have come back to say, thank you very much. we appreciate this. it's made a difference in my life. there was a guy today that couldn't see so near sighted he couldn't seebeyond 2 or 3 inches. everything is a blur. it's a miracle for him. >> they are not doing anymore screening for the day. i will go to health care, next. >> this is the medical section where they come and give us their names and we ask them to have a seat with the rn. there are 6 rn's that will find out what they need. it could be just to see a

doctor. they will sit here, write an assessment and someone will escourt them to where the doctors are. we have 2 if not more licensed dentests that look at people's mouth. they get a card to a drop-in clinic. the only thing that holds us back is we don't have enough dentists to treat the number of people. we would treat more people. >> this is not an area that people deal with. it can be a significant barrier. we see 185 to 200 clients. in the dmv area we see 300 to 350. >> it's overwhelming but helpful. there are a lot of people willing to help. >> at cafe connect we have

volunteers that work as waiters. everyone who come here experiences a surprise that it's such an easy thing to relate to this group of people. when you are out of the street you ignore them. when you are here you treat them like human beings. people are gratified. >> you give back to people. you give back to our community and it makes the world a little less cruel. >> i heard people in line talking about the donation when they walked out. it was nice to see people come and get the things they want and leave. it's rewarding for our employees to help out. >> the feedback i have gotten from the employees today has been positive. they are encouraged that the fact the city is doing something like this for the homeless.

>> i got involved, my son adam who's a teacher in san francisco participated and invited me. >> i got involved with a friend. i came a couple months ago and wanted to make it a priority to come again and invite my family and more friends. >> it's well organized. i'm impressed how organized it is. it feels wonderful to be a part of it. >> affords dignity to the people who affords the services. >> every service you can need or get you started is here under one roof. if you leave here you should have [inaudible]. the bottom line is you make

president chiu: good morning and welcome to the thursday, september 8th meeting of the board of supervisors audit and over -- oversight committee. we are joined by president david chiu. i apologize for starting the meeting late. but there's a meeting the california state senate is having here in our chamber to talk about the makeup of the regional transportation body