entirely residential. i agree i do not know why the cannabis club was ever permitted. you have the hookah sales across the street. maybe there are only open during the day, but who knows. but i think it is an allocation problem. that is my only objection to it. the rest of the use seems fine. i hope that are able to succeed. but i think this location is not quite right. commissioner moore: i learned a lot, listening to you. it was quite informational for me. i am not a billiard player. i watch it and find it amusing, but do not know much about it, except as a competitive sport on television. i find that interesting. in that sense, i would strongly support the creation of innovative small business, as i consider this to be because of the lack of a call.

it fills a large space which has the right dimensions. we are not here to reinvent the location as part of what we do. i would support it, with the condition as you said, to 12:00 as a trial. i would also suggest that the operator designates a community liaison who is available by cellphone to all the neighbors who are having a problem. i have said it before. i have seen on ocean avenue and other applications in front of us. i have been sitting here for five years. there was always a disconnect between adjoining neighbors in a very residential neighborhood and what happened in the commercial corridor. i would make it almost a challenge or suggestion to you

to find a way to start to contract with your neighbors in a manner that you are very positively supported each other. -- supporting each other. perhaps you have a community competition under tables. something like that. there is a positive way of doing it. the situation in front of us is not boding well for you to succeed. when you have people in the neighborhoods walking by and calling you by your first name as they see you, that is the best. you will not be just some anonymous people coming and parking a car in front of somebody's driveway, which is good to be a habit. it is the way you interact every day. -- which is going to be aggravating. it is the way you interact every day. start a dialogue and interaction. i am supportive, with the caveat

that there is a community liaison, amanda your motion. commissioner borden: i accept that. commissioner moore: including the 12:00 and what other interactions between schools need to be done. comissiomer sugaya: just to follow up on that, we are including security and cameras and no alcohol. is that correct? do planning staff -- the liaison commissioner commissioner moore:oore mentioned -- the liaison commissioner moore mentioned is standard under conditional use. are there others that could be applied here? >> just standard procedures like cleaning the sidewalks, that type of thing. comissiomer sugaya: could we include that? i know it is not a cu. >> this is a d.r.

you are approving the project with the specific attachments. comissiomer sugaya: if you could include a couple of the good neighborly things. commissioner borden: if we could give him a copy of the good neighbor policy. comissiomer sugaya: following up, we have had several other -- one that comes to mind -- this is a different use. it was a request for formula retail on fillmore street. one of the things ever thinking of was to participate directly. -- they were thinking of was to participate directly with the merchants group. maybe sponsor some things with them. you might think of, i don't know, having some kind of a billiard education instruction program, especially for the

neighborhood, and see if neighborhood kids might want to come to your place and learn how to play. i would like to learn how to play. even though i can play, i am not quite in this gentleman's category, i know. i have always wanted to learn how to play better, right? i do not know how to do the neat stuff. if you could sponsor things like that, working directly with the neighborhood groups here today, and others in the area, that would probably greatly enhance your situation. i would just make that suggestion. also, you could have your own hustler there. and then you could get people to come and you could take their money and make money. [laughter] commissioner moore: i want to suggest something for how you show your face in the neighborhood. this is a very deep room.

the drinks, serving non-and alcoholic beverages, 6 50 feet deep into this room, -- 6 50 feet deep into this room, with only windows -- sits 50 feet deep into this room. there are no windows there. is it possible to have a table or something which shows what kinds of drinks you are consuming, or something more people friendly, where people can identify what is going on in this space closer to the front door? you see on the plan we have a glass surface onto ocean avenue. we have a corner with the entrance, and another small piece of viewing glass office side of the building. -- off the side of the building. anything symbolic to make it

more visible to the front door. i am not saying redesign the room. obviously, the kitchen sink is in the back. but i would like to see something more related to what is being consumed in this establishment. >> i do not know if that question is directed at me. it is conceivable their designer could come up with an interior configuration that could accommodate some drinking facilities near the front. >> the beverage is an excess reuse to the primary use, and it is allowed to take 1/3 of the total floor area. the have additional room to expand that beverage aspect with dispensers in areas more visible through the windows.

if that is something you feel would definitely make the space better. commissioner moore: i just want to avoid that this place looks like a bar. i want it to look like a people place, where people are seen in terms of the sports to pursue, with no feeling that if you go 50 feet into the room there is something else happening. it is more psychology than anything else. i want to emphasize that people, not alcohol, until this has become established within the neighborhood. >> respectfully, i think the primary purpose of this is for billiards. if you do not want it to look like a bar, you should not move the bar up front. i leave it up to the business owner to decide what is quick to attract the best clientele for him. commissioner moore: then just leave it that way, that we want to bring something more people oriented.

that is all i am asking. commissioner borden: i want to restate my motion. i move to take the are =-- d.r. and approve with the midnight closing hours, 61 to report back before they go to 2:00 a.m., asking for good neighborhood policies consistent with other entertainment uses, and to consider how they might activate the front so that people feel invited to go inside. we are not going to specify how you do that. does that sound good? and establish a community liaison with a phone number available to the public, so people can reach out when the have issues. -- they have issues. >> that is the motion. comissiomer sugaya: second. >> the motion on the floor is to

take d.r. and approve the project with conditions that the hours of operation are modified to go to midnight instead of 2:00 p.m., until review in six months. if there are no complaints, they can go until 2:00 a.m. that they establish a community liaison. that they configure the interior -- commissioner borden: that they consider ways to activate the front. that is all. >> that they consider reconfiguring the space to activate the front. and that the institute the good neighbor policies we have for other entertainment uses. comissiomer sugaya: that is no alcohol, right? commissioner antonini: that is all in there. it's security.

>> that is part of it. on the motion -- commissioner antonini: no. commissioner borden: ay. commissioner moore: aye. president fong: aye. comissiomer sugaya: aye. >> the motion passes. you are now on item 22 for 100 edna st.. >> good evening, planning commission. delmon washington. president fong: we have continued business. if you want to take conversation outside. mr. realtor with the bow tie mr. realtor with the bow tie? >> the planning commission is still in session. if you can take your congratulations and commissioners -- and commiseration outside, we appreciate it.

and he is really not going to pay attention. he is going to continue doing his -- thank you, adrian. >> good evening, commission. delmon washington again. this is a proposal to demolish a rear deck and construct a two- story horizontal addition at the rear of a two-story single- family residence. the extension would be a 24 foot deep, set back 5 feet from the northern side property line. the overall height of the building would not increase. after the building is expanded, the rear wall will expand 8 feet further than the rear wall of the neighboring building to the north. this property is in an rh-one

district located on the northeast corner of edna and marson. it slopes upwards to the rear. the parcel is developed and constructed originally in 1938. the majority of the houses on this block were built between 1913 and 1969. there are family residences. the residential design team felt the privacy concerns were not exceptional or extraordinary when considering there are no windows facing the d.r. requestor's residents. there are no impacts on their interior living space resulting from a proposed horizontal addition. also, when you lateral slope is taken into consideration, it is effectively a one story above grade addition that extends beyond the wall, while

maintaining a five-foot side setback. this addition would have no more impact than a 10 foot tall fence, which is allowed by code. therefore, the massing would not have any unusual light and air affect. the addition would not create a significant adverse impact on this adjacent residents, for the reasons stated above. the project -- the planning department finds there is no exceptional circumstance and the commission should not take discretionary review. this concludes my presentation. i would be happy to entertain any questions. president fong: d.r. requestor? >> thank you, commission. my name is brad dorn.

i am the homeowner. i live there with my wife and daughters. i have lived there for six years now. i have lived in the county since 1997. i want to put it on the outset that i am not opposed to building. i am not opposed to construction. i am not opposed to remodels. i definitely believe in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. i think constructing this building would give happiness and a dwelling for a larger family. it will give them health, which gives the life. i should disclose that not only am i the adjacent property owner, but i am a general contractor here, with a license.

i own a construction company. a perform residential and light commercial projects here in the city. from the onset, it has been my general experience with clients that when we go into something like this, there is usually some sort of open dialogue they can have, and that you could bring appear different points, rather than having them brought here. this is the final say, or potentially later on. it is just a slight grievance. there has been minimal correspondence. we have done the application meeting. there was the 30 day notification. it was only after that of the lead architect reached out.

there was a communication issue there. i asked for a dialogue about this. that never happened. there was no release sincere outreach -- really sincere out reach. i would like to have a dialogue about this issue. i will just get straight to the points. i want to spend maybe 30 seconds on the block. it is actually a really unique block. if you look at the overheads, there is a lot -- meaning the private pictures from the planning board. on the east side, there is for -- four arts and crafts homes, prole built at the same time. then there is 100 edna, which

is, i would say, a little bit of a wet dog. no disrespect. on the other side, on the west side, there are seven homes. five of them are arts and crafts. i would say within the scope of the district there is -- no one is historic a preserved. but if you go to the building department, there are definitely windows. you know what i mean? there is a lot of character, a lot of detail. there is definitely not of uniqueness -- a lot of newness. if you look at the elevation of what is being proposed, we are getting more of the same. it is faulty. it has a lot of mass. it is boxy. it is apartment like. it is flat.

it is uninspired. it has no rhythm to the window layout. and i do not pull this out of my hat. i think this does not follow the guidelines are outlines, the -- the guidelines, the residential design guidelines from san francisco. if you looked at the principles of the residential guidelines, five of the six are not being followed. more importantly, if you look at the guidelines to provide greater visual emphasis to corner buildings, that is not being followed at all. also, the guideline in areas with a defined visible character, to design with the features of surrounding buildings, and the context of a

corner lot -- there should be concerned how the project relates to buildings on both streets. president fong: thank you very much. are there any speakers in favor of the d.r.? project sponsored? -- project sponsor? >> i and the architect with the project. -- i am the architect with the project. regarding the concern, from the very beginning of the project, we had started contacting and meeting with him, and i sat down with him. we told him the design.

in the later phase of the project, we also contacted and left a message, but somehow he just never returned it. i don't know how his schedule is. it is hard to get ahold of him. the second thing is he's also mentioned, about the design on this project. the existing building is in a bad condition. the shingles are really old. it is not safe to keep the old shingles. it is easy to fall down. it is not able to last longer.

it fits right into the neighborhood. stucco is really typical. it is really typical in the neighborhood. i think definitely the design is an improvement to the house. we got into the design of the house, the layout. mr. chu has a big family. he has three kids, and his parents live with him. he needs a certain amount of space for his family. the only space he can build on from the yard -- i think the addition makes sense. i understand the addition does block his living room, but we have 5 feet set back from the property line.

that comes right from the planning code. i think you can see that all of this effort we put in -- we can get ok with the project. thank you. president fong: are other speakers in support of the project sponsor? >> my name is joey chen. i have been living there since 1996. i love the neighborhood. every day, still remodeling. i just want to give my kids a bigger house. i do not know what he is complaining about. that is what i want to say.

president fong: thank you. d.r. requestor, you have two minutes, if you want. >> i just want to encourage the commission to take the opportunity at this point to reevaluate the provided architectural plan, and once a project is under construction, it is built for a good chunk of time. i think it is not that egregious to revisit the plants and to put a sincere effort into something that is inspired and within the residential design guidelines. there is nothing being done to the front deck? there was a permit issued for

that at some time. i do not know how cars are affected. there was a permit also to capture the footprint of the garage. there is currently no rush as well. -- garage as well. what is being used as parking is the egress, which you can see in the picture. again, i am not opposed to building. i encourage happiness for them. i want them to construct some point. i just wanted to be within the city guidelines for a corner lot especially. just a revision, to reevaluate. thank you. president fong: project sponsor?

>> i will make it brief. i just want to emphasize that the desire is an improvement to the existing building. we replace all the old shingles, and replace the existing siding, also the stucco. i believe this is definitely an improvement for the family and the community. that is all. thank you. commissioner antonini: thank you. i agree with d.r. requestor that this particular house needs to work. it is a little hard to tell from the renderings how it will appear when it is finished on the front. the photos in our record are discouraging. it does not look like it has

been cleaned in three years, and there is a car parked in the yard, which is not what you're supposed to be doing. i would hope that is all going to be stricken up a little bit. the way this was designed is an odd looking house, with an entrance coming from the staircase, and the deck in the front of it is pretty strange. the other question comes to mind is it appears the neighbor's house and many of the others have a third floor or upstairs over the living quarters. it seems that might have been the better way to go, up rather than out. but i guess that decision was made. aesthetically, it would probably have been better looking. the other problem i have is a look at these plans and i want to make sure -- may be staffed and fill me in. the lower floor, there is no exterior entrance to that living

space. usually, we try to have a downstairs matrix. there is a second bathroom in there which is in an odd position. it looks as if you have your two bedrooms being serviced by this path, and you have a separate toilet in the family room. i guess that is probably ok, but it is a little strange. is there a separate means of entrance to that lower unit without coming to the upstairs? >> there is a direct entrance of the garage. but it is actually through the garage into the habitable space. this floor plan is still complying with our matrix. the have access to the upper floors, an interior stairwell. direct access through the garage. but there is a pedestrian entrance.

commissioner antonini: there is no other entrance into their? -- there? the have to go into the garage, and from there into the unit? >> correct. commissioner antonini: as long as that is consistent. i did not want to do an nsr on this space. >> they have an interior connection. commissioner antonini: mention was made of the windows. i hope the windows would be contexture with the neighborhood and of the quality be specified. >> that are identified as a would sash. -- they are identified as a wood sah, aluminum-clad wood trim. commissioner moore: